LOTRO devs explain the virtue system revamp

    
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For my money, the change from a rigid to a much more flexible virtue system in Lord of the Rings Online is one of the more exciting prospects to hit the game in a while. But the details of how this revision will function were largely left unexplained by last week’s producer’s letter. Queries about the changes elicited a more detailed explanation this week from Producer Rob Ciccolini.

The producer was quick to emphasize that all of this was subject to change, but said:

The Virtue points that players can already earn in game will have a flat cost, say (as an example) 100 Virtue XP. Deeds that formally gave out a specific point will now give out (in this example) 100 Virtue points so the rate of gaining points in the same. In the new Virtue UI there will be an additional slot that you drag a Virtue to that will be used to determine which Virtue gets the XP. If the Virtue is at maximum value, or if there is no virtue slotted, then we have discussed several options -> the XP goes to the highest Virtue that is not at max – the XP goes to the lowest Virtue that is not at max – or even that the XP goes to your slotted Virtues in order from left to right and then rolls over in alphabetical order. These haven’t been finalized yet, and cost to implement might play a role.


Anyway, you complete a deed and the 100 XP goes into the slotted Virtue which coincidentally adds exactly one rank. It means if you are running a high level character we can add quests at end game or even a Festival quest that gives some Virtue XP so you are not forced to go back to older content to progress the system. Maybe a substantial quest or deed gives the full 100, while a lighter Festival quest gives 20. It gives us a lot of freedom for expanding the system. Points given out in the future may cost more than 100 XP depending on how we want to give out rewards. While the “grind” of future points might take longer, you would also be progressing by playing relevant content while earning loot and XP that is also relevant to your character.
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Marko Zivkovic

Thats all nice and dandy but what the hell is a virtue system and what is it for?

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Zyngor

Completing specific objectives in LOTRO (complete X quests in Y zone, kill X number of enemies in Y zone, etc) can reward players with 1-2 points toward a specific virtue. Each virtue usually offers a player about three different stat bonuses of various types (more damage, more defense, yadda yadda).

Players can pick up to five different virtues to slot at one time, which will give them those various stats toward that character.

tl;dr play the game, complete these achievements, slot character bonuses to play the game a bit better

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Koshelkin

Virtues are a set of passive bonuses unlocked via lotro’s book of deeds. https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Virtues

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Mallus

Great idea, it sounds like the devs are starting to make some dramatic changes to the game. I will most likely be making a return.

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Angel

I really want to go back and play LOTRO but I have a freezing problem with it that I just can’t nail down. I’ve tried so many things, yet I continuously get a music restart and lag spike every few minutes. It sucks :(

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Mallus

Try this, go into settings at the login screen, select options, then select the proxy tab, make sure NO Proxy is selected. This fixed all my connection and freezing problems. You can also try running the game in Fullscreen Window mode. If this doesn’t work try the repair option. Lastly make sure all your computers drivers are up to date, I use a program called Driver Booster 6, it costs about $30 year but auto updates your drivers.

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Angel

Hi Mallus, thanks but I’ve tried all of those things to no avail. Updated drivers, reinstall, repair, windowed full screen, full screen, windowed. Nothing I do seems to work.

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Mallus

Proxy setting? Mine had defaulted to “Use the system proxy settings” this is bad…

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Angel

Thanks Mallus, just tried that and it didn’t work :(

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PanagiotisLial1

if an older PC, its possible some component(s) are overheating. The fact you also get those as spikes makes me think its quite possible

you could use any free temperature monitor like hwmonitor to see if you are in the “yellow alert” when playing. Anything over 60c(CPU or GPU) already starts slowing your compnents but only the higher temperatures are dangerous

while this can happen with any pc its more common on laptops

if you got indeed sort of high temperatures you could start by replacing thermal paste and cleaning fans/heatsinks

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Angel

It’s a newer computer that I built, I know it’s not overheating, thank you though for the response!

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Ironwu

Angel, you would not be using an older Sound Blaster card would you? LOTRO is notorious for failing to work properly with the older cards. Changing out the card for a recent version fixed my LOTRO issues.

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Angel

No this is a newer computer but thanks!

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Akagi

Have you tried fresh reinstalling Windows?

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Matthew Yetter

Given the various things you’ve said in this thread, I’m betting that you have something running in the background that is causing a conflict with LotRO. These sorts of conflicts are usually caused by something that seems completely unrelated. For example, I’ve seen a digital sculpting application end up unable to launch because of a background “audio drivers” app that actually had nothing to do with the sound card at all. If you have an MSI motherboard, Nahimic Audio Drivers is actually a very likely culprit and can also be safely disabled.

The way to troubleshoot this is to open the Windows Task Manager and go to the Startup tab. You then proceed to disable items one at a time, restarting your computer after each and then testing LotRO. If the problem persists, turn back on the one you just disabled and turn off the next. Rinse and repeat. It’s insanely tedious but it is the only way I know of to ensure it’s not a background application conflict.

Another thing I’ve seen is that the Safe Files setting in Bit Defender can cause havoc with some applications. Turning that off does not inhibit your antivirus protections.

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Jiminy Smegit

I have exactly the same problem, went through their tech support with no joy (although they were very pleasant and tried to help). From spending way too much time scouring reddit and other places, it seems its an issue with LOTRO’s netcode fighting with certain types of network cards, which then causes the freeze and sound stutter.

Tried all the solutions offered in a variety of different places, nothing worked. The only thing I never tried is buying a different network card, which might possibly work but given that LOTRO is literally the only game I have issues with, I am not gambling on a purchase on the off chance it might work.

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Angel

Yeah, that’s about where I’m at, it sucks but for a single game the thing that might fix it isn’t worth the effort/cost.