New World halts transfers, warns gold dupe exploiters as players call for a rollback

    
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Turns out the gold duping bug in New World wasn’t just a rumor: Amazon confirmed that the transfers enabled yesterday were allowing some folks to dupe gold and other items. Initially, Amazon told players that it had “identified a small number of characters who after moving servers are in an invalid data state that prevents their character from properly saving” – and a small chunk of those players also moved gold around, effectively duping it.

“Some players among this small set transferred gold or items while their character was affected. All of these transactions are logged in our database. We are reviewing them now and any players found deliberately using this condition to gain advantage will be banned for exploiting. We will also remove items or gold received where appropriate.”

The plan was to prevent players from logging in at all when affected by these transfer problems, but as of this afternoon, the studio says the “invalid data state” bug is still happening, so it’s shut down transfers while it sorts it all out.

“We’ve transferred approximately 150K players since character transfers went live. A small number of those have resulted in characters with an invalid data state that needs to be corrected. We’ve done that for those affected last night, but there are a still some new transfers affected that we see happening. We have paused character transfers and evaluate how we can prevent future occurrences of this problem. When that is resolved we’ll resume the service, with an announcement ahead of time.”

The forum thread complaining about the bug is massive as players are demanding a rollback. Amazon hasn’t uttered that word, but it did note that “appropriate action will be taken” on accounts that have taken advantage of the exploit.

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Robert Mann

Give it a few months, the PvP zergs will be mostly gone, the game will have more content coming, and the gold spam will be vastly reduced. The economy is bemoaned because coin actually matters for a change, but it’s not really hard to earn some in a few hours play time (you can easily PvE farm up 500g in a couple hours a day… very easily, which is enough over 5 days for three houses if you don’t go nuts). At 60 you can run around farming mobs for 7-8 coins constantly, with an excess of spare weapons dropping or gathered from chests, and earn several hundred an hour or more by all that is stated.

All that without even being above 35. Which, if you don’t spend everything dumping on what people want to sell you, you have ~60-70k from questing that you can get (based on reports, I haven’t done that). Should be more than enough to cover for a while if you need a little down time, and weekends can build it back up if you enjoy the game.

Also, housing doesn’t go away if not paid, you just don’t get the perks, so you can always save up for a while and re-open your home if you want some down time.

In short, I’m not seeing the reason behind the frenzy over gold. People are just used to it NOT mattering, being absolutely irrelevant, and so the moment it is relevant they freak out.

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Strykr619

Money/Item duping is standard for any new MMORPG launch, been playing them now for 25 years and this is pretty standard.

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XanadoX

So you disband your guild, change the server, and you transfer gold to the guild leader to create the new guild. And you notice when you relog that the gold hasn’t gone from you..

Amazon gives you 12+ hours to think how to use it. And no rollback. In a world where there is not enough gold.

Amazon could ban accounts but it will never clean the dirty money. People using AH to pass the money. People getting max proffesions…

A rollback should have been done.

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Jokerchyld

I love how people are saying an MMO flopped in less than a month. Are you serious?

Amazon didn’t put in the investment of 5+ years for an MMO just to shut it down because they have a few bugs. People are oversensationalizing this but thats the thing today.

Come back in six months or a year then you will have something to complain about if issues at this level still persist. I dont think they will.

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Richard de Leon III

Still, the underlying problems it has is…worrysome. I had a feeling security and the economy would be problematic so i took a wait and see approach with the game.

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Darkbubba

I’ve been to many MMOs on opening day when 3 hours in you have to close global chat to quell the gold sellers and 1 week later the lag is so bad from the BOTs the game is nearly unplayable. I’ll take a little gold duping in the first few months.

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Jo Watt

Weird.. I was on the second most populated server but never experienced any of that, though I kept global closed most of the time at first so I may have missed a few gold sellers. But rarely was there lag to an “unplayable” extent.

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Darkbubba

not New World, other MMOs, sorry for the confusion :)

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Darkbubba

Every new game has crows circling it, cawing out its doom, as if somehow the fall of that game will ease the pain of their existence. As they do, hundreds of thousands of players are enjoying the game, oblivious to those pale squalls echoing in the void.

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Jo Watt

Yes this is true. It’s like, if you played it and don’t like it… Simply say why and go back to whatever you want to play instead. No need to be a dooms day sign holder and chant “the end is nigh” at everyone. Plenty of people are playing still and very much enjoying what’s there and hoping for improvement as Amazon continues to work on the game.

Some servers may need to merge at this point but many of the medium servers have a decent amount of players running around on all factions.

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Godnaz

Some dude boasted/showed making $740 selling hundreds of thousands of duped gold on multiple servers through a third party website. The New World Reddit sub is fuckin popcorn! I only got to lvl 35 before I quit and I’m still getting my money’s worth out of it.

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LibertyPrime8

I knew this game was gonna flop hahahaha Amazon has no idea what they’re doing.. go play some ff14 or ESO instead

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Darkbubba

Interesting, and ironic, choice of games to recommend given their stellar beginnings…

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Jo Watt

Right? I was there for 1.0 FFXIV and it was terrible. Game literally blown up and redone. ESO never really been a power house and certainly doesn’t have an average player count worth mentioning compared to FFXIV much less the self imploding WoW.

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Strykr619

ESO was never a power house? FF14 WISHES it had ever peaked at 5 million players. FF14 1.0 was a mess and 2.0 was good until they destroyed their overland content with random generator dungeon grind zone…

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Darkbubba

I wish I liked ESO’s class system and combat. It would make it my go to Fantasy MMO right now.

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Jo Watt

I do too. I’m not trashing ESO by any means. It just needs some major improvements.

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Jo Watt

Peaked at 5 million… They are in the ball park of about 19 million “accounts” now but not active players. I’ve never seen anything about ESO ever coming even close to that. The best it had was around 2.5 million. And the numbers for all mmos are general estimates but are probably pretty spot on… ESO has always been a huge waste of potential which, imo, is the only thing keeping it clinging to the charts today…

2.5 is no small number either but by power house I mean the over all not the.. hey it was the fotm for a bit.

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LibertyPrime8

ur mom.. lmao

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Strykr619

Considering the 2 games you listed had DISASTROUS launches…. your a clown.

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Cyro-Nydd

So, apparently, the checks are client side only rather than server? Seems like a strange oversight in this day and age.

Duping is just one of a host of exploits to be concerned about, I’m sure all kinds of havok is possible, like the invulnerable “statue” exploit. I’m not knowledgeable in this field, but I could imagine undermeshing might be a thing made easy too, and considered mining notes are world, rather than per player, that count get annoying.

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velimirius

crap game piling blunder after blunder

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Raidervc

And this is why Jeff Bezos will never be a trillionaire. Get your MMO fixed Bezos.

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Bryan Correll

Bezos is probably only slightly aware that Amazon is even making games.

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Jeremy Barnes

I’m pretty sure it was a joke.

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Jon Wax

Saw the first ad for it while waiting on the launch pad…

“No shit? We’re making games now?”

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Anon Nomas

Yes they seem to have stumbled into the same pitfalls that other games have stumbled into which goes to show that they did poor research and even poorer implementation. Jeff bezos should be ashamed instead of patting himself on the back for this tragedy.