Shroud of the Avatar reveals a batch of investment rewards for the one percenters

    
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People, steel yourself for an entire article about gold-themed housing decorations that won’t involve a single Trump joke. It’s going to be hard, but we can get through it. Together.

So anyway, Shroud of the Avatar shared its first “perk pack” of investor rewards from the Seed Invest platform. Players who have chipped in $499 or more to the development of this upcoming MMO may get some of these gilded costume options, pets, and housing layouts. And they won’t have to wait, either, as these rewards are coming as soon as Release 47.

Check them out in the gallery below!

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Raleigh-St-Clair

I’m still surprised how much people want the, “Look at me…” stuff in a game that next to no one is left playing. In other words, who’s even around to see your personal version of Trump Tower and “ooh” and “aah” over it? No one. Yet a small number of deep-pocketed people keep buying this crap or, in this case, investing silly amounts (30K for the castle?!?) to get it.

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temp starcitizen

more like 100 PERCENTERS, only whales play this game.

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Robert Mann

Congrats to those people, but, well, given that it all seems cosmetic I could care less on this part.

So long as they have similar components and all for housing, not a huge deal to me, given the lack of free building and all.

Still, it just highlights that they had very high cost stuff which reminds me of why I was put off and never bothered to check them out, almost as if a reminder was due to avoid the game…

Heh, maybe unlike the jerks these games can actually suck up all the whales, and we will see developers need to adjust other games. Please… by all that is good, please let that happen!

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Cadaver

A veritable shower of gold. A glittering, golden shower cascading down upon the game’s most loyal and deserving backers.

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A Dad Supreme

“Players who have chipped in $499 or more to the development of this upcoming MMO may get some of these gilded costume options, pets, and housing layouts.”
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Well compared to this: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15133-WIP-The-Million-Mile-High-Club for $10,000…

…seems like a good deal.

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Maggie May

Wow … Just wow, that’s insane.

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TotalCowage .

Except… the Golden Castle in Shroud is $30,000.

The link to the SeedInvest perks is here.

The link to the 1% Whales patting each other on the back, bragging about how much property they own, and wondering how “Reddit” will see getting only 700k out of the 2m they asked for is here.

The link to where they finally see sense, and comment that the $110k per month in add on store sales they also need to survive collapsed to only $54k the month after the Seed Invest is [LINK NOT FOUND]

The link to where the most infamous Whale actually plays the game content for the very first time after 4 years of development, and realises it’s complete bobbins, realises his investment is about to crater, and blames everyone else for this is here. I’d link to the original thread, but as usual with Shroud, if it reflects negatively on the game, the forums quickly purge all the comments… and it doesn’t look like anyone archived the original yet.

Shroud of the Avatar, neutral observers.

Oh, and before I forget, the place where one particular user admitted this morning he’s committing illegal actions to persecute critics like myself was here.

He’s one of the Real Money Traders that will control your access to housing in game. Just so you know the kind of joy that daring to raise your head and ask for more porridge in Shroud will trigger.

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Alien Legion

And yet, things as simple as MAPS are still not in the game. I honestly feel one must commend them for cantering to their whales on a heretofore unseen level.

(slow clap)

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Alyn

Somehow, I think there are some mmo developers/producers out there have “lost their way” when it comes to creating a truly classic fan-based mmo. A thumbs down from me.

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Wanda Clamshuckr

Still a no for me.

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birini

I really miss the old days where you bought a box and everyone got the same game experience. Giving in game swag to people with way too much money is not a community building move, at all.

I wish crowdfunding could be ditched for an investment scenario, where you get profits instead of gold pixels for helping a game be made.

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Armsbend

That would take away from the lead developer’s goals. They want all profit with little to no overhead.

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birini

Which is honestly where a mess like Star Citizen comes from. They can get, literally, millions in funding without oversight.

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Raimo Kangasniemi

The problem is that the ‘common wisdom’ is that the old model was not sustainable and as a result we have been left with a selection of business models, with different levels of catering to excess.

Probably there’s some ‘spirit of the age’ involved, but in the end its mostly an attempt to keep money flowing in during the development process and trying to limit the developing companies own risk.

If it works, it’s shrewd business sense, if it fails what are left with are empty servers with digital monuments to excess until they are turned off.

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birini

What evidence do you offer that it’s not sustainable?

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Raimo Kangasniemi

It’s rarity in MMO genre. Mere B2P doesn’t cut it, added optional subscription doesn’t either – the least unsavoury workable business model in my opinion is the B2P with optional subscription and limited microtransactions plus B2P expansions, warts and all.

That profit method you mentioned is being used by few developers – like ArtCraft behind Crowfall . although it has faced significant criticism also.

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birini

I’m not entirely sure where you’re coming from. Crowfall had a kickstarter and, to my understanding, it’s impossible to sell shares of a company the kickstarter way because of SEC regulations.

In terms of rarity, yes, it is. But that doesn’t necessarily translate into unsustainable. And any way you go there, a cash shop like WoW and ESO have is quite different than giving away swag to people who spend $500 on a game.

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mistressbrazen

There is equity crowdfunding now. Double Fine Productions and a couple of others can organize that.

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Robert Mann

Na, it works. It just doesn’t accommodate the average executive and ceo wage increases of >1100% over the last 40 years (workers got a total average of <12% over the same time period, fyi.) It's an astounding little bit of history, and one which hit the gaming industry a little later in the process. Gaming wasn't seen as really big money until the mid 90s in the U.S., which is when that trend started kicking in here.

If you cut that executive pay back down proportional to employees, and give employees a 5% raise, you'd see easily sustainable B2P gaming. Won't happen anytime soon, though, I'd bet. People with lots of money do so hate to give up their silver spoon…

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Tandor

I assume by “the old model” you mean a game being developed by up-front funding from the developers and their commercial backers/banks with the initial and ongoing costs recouped through subscriptions. If so, I think that kind of model has become unsustainable partly because the initial development costs are now so high given the technical advances such that commercial backing is very hard to come by, and partly because a lot of players are no longer prepared to pay fixed subscriptions. Even those who are happy to pay a subscription don’t expect to pay any more than was the norm in the late 1990’s.

In these circumstances developers have little option but to seek to raise some of the development cost from their players, and in return those players can expect to receive early access and some in-game goodies. It’s not an ideal arrangement but the alternative is a very drastic thinning out of the market. Only a few very large companies or established names in very small companies can manage to fund a game internally or with commercial backing, and I imagine Mark Jacobs as one of the latter could testify to the fact that it’s not an easy thing to do and gives a lot of sleepless nights!

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Paul

everyone got the same game experience.

This, 1000 times this.