Star Trek Online’s Discovery Enterprise lockbox has captains in an uproar

    
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It stands to reason that in a game called Star Trek Online, the most desirable starships of them all will be any that have had the name “Enterprise” slapped on the side. Cryptic is using this popularity to fuel the latest round of lockboxes — and players aren’t having it.

The Discovery-era Constitution-class (Enterprise) and Klingon D7 ships have been added to the game through ship lockboxes tucked inside research and development packs, a fact that’s greatly angered many players who want to outright buy these ships for their visuals and impressive stats. It doesn’t help that this format ends up with a much lower chance for any ship payout.

Cue the riots. Players aren’t happy with any part of Cryptic’s decision here, and they are not shy in expressing their discontent. It’s gotten so bad that the Star Trek Online sub mods are reportedly locking down threads and deleting posts that are “way out of line.”

One player’s wise words reminds us all of why lockboxes are a nasty proposition: “There is no upper limit to potential expenditure. A player could throw down upwards of $1,000 on these packs, yet the only ones smiling at the end of that investment could be Perfect World.”

Source: Star Trek Online, Reddit. Thanks Stoleviathan and Panagiotis !
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Castagere Shaikura

All PWE games are for the whales now. I can’t even get mad at this. Game companies wouldn’t do this if gamers didn’t gladly open their wallets.

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GarakS31

but also the system is very player friendly in terms of gathering recourses to get the ship without boxes !!…

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Alton O'Briant

The ultimate status symbol for the game. Like winning a mini lotto. That’s the model for this and there is no upward limit for how much you could spend. Sadly disapoints me and I’m sure more than a few others that I’ll never have a classic tier 6 Enterprise.

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Hravik

Cryptic has done something to anger their player base? I’m shocked. SHOCKED I tell you!

In other news, water is wet.

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Mewmew

The issue isn’t even that it’s a lockbox thing, it’s that they’re a special R&D lockbox thing. They’re far more expensive for a single try, you have to buy them directly instead of using the mass market traded lockbox keys, they’re here for a very limited time rather than being able to stock up on the boxes they come in and open them at your leisure later (you have to buy the box rather than the key for this type and the box is 3 times the cost of a key, it is a time limited thing, all a bunch of poor decision type of things).

For STO which normally has me defending it rather than complaining, I can’t do that for this instance. They put some of the coolest new stuff that is too desired behind the worst draw wall they could. It was a bad decision and greedy move. I am usually one of the games biggest champions, but I can’t defend them this time.

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mysecretid

This is how I’m feeling about it as well.

Under the traditional lockbox/key system, it was within reach to get most special lockbox ships eventually, if it was actually worth it to you to spend money to get the thing.

By switching this ship RNG offer to something bought straight from Cryptic, and non-tradeable, and something only available for a limited time, the odds of eventually getting what you seek without spending profound amounts of money go way, way, way down. Honestly, your odds are so small under the new circumstances, they might as well be zero.

I really would’ve liked to own one of those “Pike ships”, but there’s a difference between paying to get what you want, eventually, and paying to get nothing of value to you, ever.

As you say, there’s no defending Perfect World Entertainment on this one. It was a brutally exploitative decision worthy of EA corporate.

Cheers,

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Lydia Salem

In dec 2018 Cryptic studios stole from me in the name of charity. I have been contacting them since ,by email,tweets,and even by phone. I call n leave messages with my name and number everyday (not exaggerating) and they ignore me completely. I have even filled thier voicemail up,and they just delete them and never respond. I have proof of all of this. Do not support this company,they are discriminatory thieves and I have proof. I am willing to share this proof also. They need to be held responsible.

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ghostlight

Yes, in this day and age when poor customer support is the rule rather than the exception, in my one or two dealings with PWE/Cyptic support they did not disappoint in that regard. That is, they were absolutely no help at all.

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EmeraldFox

theres been talk about this very same thing in some countrys in europe and I found this when i did a quick google on the subject https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/loot-boxes-gambling-video-games-ftc-look-it-n941256

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EmeraldFox

I have never liked the concept of lockbox’s. Im a long term gamerfrom the old Atari 2600 home conasels to mmo’s of today. I have seen gmaes raise and fall due to stupid mistakes by the companys and good ideas but the whole lock box system? It sickens me and has from the start. They say these lock box’s are a form of gambleing for high stake ite,ms and the chances of getting them are low?

Id agree with that. Its just a way to keep the income going for companys like these. Cash shops yes those i agree with. means that you have a choice of what your looking for and offer s more variety. Lock box’s are just a fools errand. Especilly for younger gamers that just have to have that one shiney beautifull ship.

In that aspect it just encourages them to just try there luck and gamble for high stakes by buying them

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Valenn2

Awesome!

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Rawsilver

It’s why I stopped playing. I’m willing to buy things directly. Not get scammed into spending several times the value by bs odds.

I’d be fine if they had both as an option. But they’d rather scam people

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ghostlight

I hear you. SWTOR used to be like that (and it was quite annoying) until they eventually caught the player drift and put many of the more desirable items as direct purchases in the Cartel Market, along with making the game much more alt friendly.

Also, there were any number of reasons why I put STO on indefinite hiatus, but certainly a biggie was the sometimes sly and underhanded way they do revenue generation.

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Rawsilver

They could even do a delayed release for shop purchase. Call lootbox a pre-order of sorts. But nah. They’d rather extort fans of the franchise

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leihngwei

That’s how Path of Exile does their Mystery Boxes. RNG for a time, then available for direct sale.

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Armsman

Oh please SWTOR has to have the absolute WORST F2P model online in MMOs today. Hell, they CHARGE a player for Action Bar space.

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ghostlight

Excuse me, we were not discussing SWTOR’s shortcomings in their F2P model, but rather availability of choice items in the cash shop as opposed to lock box exclusives.

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Armsman

When you can claim SWToR has zero Lockbox exclusives, then you can wax ‘superior’ about their cashshop/lootbox model. Cryptic does have 400+ ships in their CStore.

(The other interesting thing is that with all the hate Star Trek Duscovery content gets on the STO site by players, I’m amazed they’re suddenly up in arms about access to a ship from a show (and game content in STO) they profess to dislike greatly and in some cases outright hate.

Hell, the new Discovery Era ‘Enterprise’ isn’t even the ‘best’ ship in the game DPS wise going by it’s Boff layout, (and it’s hardly the first ship they’ve offered in this exact same manner – it’s the third ship they’ve offered in this way.

So yeah, don’t see the sudden outrage all of a sudden.

(And no, not defending the practice either as I hate Lockboxes in general myself – BUT – that said, I did participate in promo Box system when the original T6 Temporal TOS Constitution was offered back during the AoY expansion. I opened to Promo 4 Packs with no joy and finally went the “Buy Master Keys with Zen and Sell on the Exchange” to get EC to purchase a T6 Connie — so I can’t claim any ‘moral high ground’ myself as I’m a BIG TOS fan (still the best series and Star Trek era IMO) – and in the end that one ship for the one character (now my main – cost me $75 in real cash (as opposed to the $30 in Zen Cryptic charges for T6 C-Store ships) – and I got off easy as I was able to get mine for 830 million EC over the first 3 days of its release before they shot up to 1.5 Billon EC on the exchange.

So yeah, I get the ‘desire’ part and HATE the system, but in the end, an individual who ‘joins in’ and participates has no one to blame but themselves. STO is perfectly playable and enjoyable as a game without ever going to even their C-Store; and they do give “Free” T6 ships for events (repeat something daily over a 3 week period 14 times and get the ship) multiple times over the course of a year, so no, I can’t say they’re any more ‘money grubbing’ than any other MMO developer who uses a F2P model with a Loot Box mechanic as well.

But again, since I choose to participate in one instance of a ship release of said system; I guess I’m part of the ‘problem’ myself.

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mysecretid

Star Wars: The Old Republic actually hasn’t had any new RNG “gamble packs” on sale since Disney dropped the hammer on EA awhile back for its massively exploitative microtransactions in Star Wars Battlefront II — where the head of Disney actually called the head of EA and said “stop it”.

Not long after, SWTOR switched to directly selling items old and new for money through the in-game shop. There are packs advertised, but these packs simply collect random items for sale in the store and offer them as a kind of “grab bag”. If you don’t want RNG, you can simply buy the items you want when they come on sale.

Things are different over at SWTOR these days. Darth Disney Force-choked Grand Moff EA into submission.