Wild West Online seems to be dropping FFA PvP in favor of faction-based PvP

Still bummed out about Wild West Online’s delay to 2018? Wait until you see the game’s latest dev blog! 612 Games doesn’t mention the delay but does go into detail about some of the bigger changes on the way.

For a start, the game seems to be shedding its free-for-all PvP stylings, as the developers are adding three factions. They’re saying it’s about roleplay flair, but as in other faction-based MMOs, you’ll be locked to grouping with just your same side, and you won’t be able to team kill – you’ll be able to fight just those on the other sides. That more or less puts an end to the game’s original plan to allow free-for-all PvP and looting hemmed in by merely a flimsy bounty system.

“Most Wanted Status is going to be removed from the game and replaced with other mechanics to prevent Kill On Sight style grieving,” 612 Games says. “So under no circumstances when you are killed will you lose your items except gold or quest/event related items such as relic artifacts etc.”

To whet PvP players’ appetites, the studio will be enhancing the game with faction wars, town control, and public PvP events, including a free-for-all PvP “Stagecoach Robber” event and an air-drop battle royale event dubbed “The Hot Air Balloon”.

The game will move toward skill trees, a more detailed economy, and easier-to-get-world-loot. Mounted horseback combat is still on the way, as are changes to mechanics like bank robberies, which proved to be too exploitable during testing.

In light of all those changes, including a pivot on PvP, that delay makes a lot more sense. The patch itself is expected to drop before the end of the year.

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Sorenthaz

Thank god. FFA only works when there’s some semblance of structure/balance but that takes so much time/resources to do because people will still find ways to exploit design flaws and play around the boundaries.

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Jdawg Playsgames

I still have hope that RDR2 will make it to PC

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Denice J. Cook

Good! Nothing kills a server faster than Free For All PvP, yeesh. With factions, at least someone around you *might* help you in a pinch, haha.

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Castagere Shaikura

Talk about an mmo i have zero interest in playing. Everytime i think about this game i think about the ugly racist history behind it.

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Jerry

LOL, racist?

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StonerMk2

I believe the troll above is baitin my good sir.

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Melissa McDonald

Better not play ANY historically-based MMO then.

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Kala Mona

Probably a good move, quite a few FFA sandboxes quickly degenerate to gankfests, doesn’t seem to matter how the devs try to prevent it. On the other hand, games like DAoC and Warhammer Online handled this relatively good.

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Veldan

DAoC / Warhammer are not what you should compare this to though. Seems to me it’s more like a WoW / Aion / RIFT / SWTOR kind of system.

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MrNastyButler

Kind of think it’s a less than good idea, but not a bad idea, to drop the free-for-all feel. But it’s a game that is still early in development and there is time to tune it properly.

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silverlock

Normally I like faction based pvp but in a wild west game it just makes no sense to me.

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Melissa McDonald

So no more Deputy/Bounty system, where Deputies lose their items if killed by an Outlaw?

Well this is certainly a game still being figured out, designed, and planned.

It’s beautiful and has lots of potential, I hope they figure it out and settle on a good system.

I’m glad they recognize there are a lot of RP people playing in the beta.

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Armsbend

I know games will always be about entertainment and as lowbrow as they come but it’s too bad no one could make a game where murder would be truly consequential. I think of my time in RDR and I killed what? a few hundred men? That would have made my character the most deadly man in the history of the american west by maybe…hundreds of men. No one has ever personally slayed hundreds of things in short time like video game men.

It’s funny how murder and games are so intertwined – with few exception.

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xanadox

Try albiononline
Ffa(except group/guild /aliance mates), full loot.
The key is gearing something you can afford losing.

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life_isnt_just_dank_memes

extremely lando voice: this deal…

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Knox Harrington

If you know your history, this move to faction-based PvP makes more sense than FFA. The Wild West really wasn’t all that wild. Most towns required all firearms to be handed over to the sheriff while visitors were in town. The image of two gunslingers dueling at high noon in the middle of the town is the work of fiction perpetuated by the likes of Buffalo Bill, who made a career out of traveling around with a Vaudeville act that romanticized frontier life. Hollywood only solidified that image in people’s minds. The reality of it was a little less dramatic and a lot less chaotic.

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vikaernes

I think it’s that understanding that the “Wild West” and the “Western American Frontier” are two very different places that is important here. The Wild West is a mythological representation of the Western Frontier. This game is Wild West Online, so, gunfights at high noon for all!

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Knox Harrington

Yeah I think if you want a game based on the Western American Frontier, the safest bet would be Oregon Trail because dying from dysentery or a snake bite was far more common than shootouts in the middle of town. It’s probably why nobody’s making an Oregon Trail Online game because the Wild West makes for a more exciting MMO.

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Melissa McDonald

I dunno, the Life is Feudal and Black Death dev teams would probably tackle it, they seem to enjoy mundane subject matter… /s

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Melissa McDonald

From what I’ve read gun control came later after the towns were more established. Read up on Wild Bill Hickok’s career, he had several notable gunfights as a town marshall and also as a civilian.

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Knox Harrington

Hickok is a problematic character. So much of his alleged exploits were actually just tall tales. Journalism in the West was more fiction than fact, often embellished and exaggerated to sell papers. So not only was word of mouth obviously tainted but so was the printed word. And Hickok just went along with it because people would buy him drinks etc based on his notoriety alone. Gunfights did happen in the West but they were few and far between in very isolated incidents. And gun control came as soon as law enforcement was established, which was very early on in a town’s development.

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Melissa McDonald

From what I’m reading he verifiably killed at least 6 people. I get your point that Hollywood has embellished the time period but I also think you’re seriously downplaying the level of violence and number of deaths that actually did happen.

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Armsbend

Some of those legends of the west had to earn their right to be feared/respected before they got there though. I don’t think anyone thought Wild Bill was a slouch with the iron.

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Crowe

I dunno about that. Most of the pictures show him wearing a jacket. I’m guessing he didn’t press his own shirts.

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Knox Harrington

I’m not saying he was entirely a phony but his folklore did precede him wherever he went. It eventually got him killed because someone wanted to take a shot at “the great Wild Bill Hickok”, and even all the details surrounding that story have been given the typical folklore treatment so it’s really hard to separate fact from fiction in such stories.

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Armsbend

I think all of the Western tropes were real. Just not with nearly the frequency and spread out over massive distances (relatively speaking). I believe Hollywood just crammed them all in to make it seem like it was constant – like you said.

However, you can imagine the reality of a man riding their horse, seeing three Mohawk braves on the horizon and knowing true fight or flight decision that did in fact happen. Their was certainly struggle and the overall wildness of it was all too real. There are still pockets of it today. You can live it in parts of Central and South America right now.

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Knox Harrington

Oh I don’t mean to undersell the danger of frontier living. My only point is that it was heavily romanticized and blown out of proportion, and all the common tropes were largely isolated incidents, especially in the towns.

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andrew saunders

Sounds good to me I always prefer faction based pvp in fact I avoid any game that has open world pvp without factions .

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Zora

The only thing dying is my interest whenever I hear mentions of PvP but I am well mannered and thus will not mention that aloud. Nope, not gonna happen… nosire.

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deekay_plus

eh i don’t care for factions even tho i agree the game needed tuning in it’s pvp and economy.

last time i killed someone they were seconds away from unflagging which killing them then flagged me which i was then promptly killed and looted for my upgraded pistol causing me to have to buy a new pistol.

we had a good laugh in chat about it all cuz i was like wtf how did that even happen? :D

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