EVE Online’s ‘million dollar battle’ ends up a $3300 bust

It was touted as the “Million-Dollar Battle” — a million dollars’ worth of EVE Online ships heading to an epic showdown in 9-4RP2. Pandemic Legion was defending its Keepstar in the system while the Imperium attempted to destroy it. With 250 massive titans and a total of 6,000 pilots being brought to bear on both sides, it had the potential of being the largest fight ever in the game’s history.

The outcome wasn’t… quite as epic as it could’ve been, however. As we suspected, while the two forces threw their fleets at each other, neither committed its titans to the fight. The sheer number of participants in one location caused game performance to suffer, and eventually the attackers withdrew, leaving the defenders victorious. Only about $3,300 of ship losses were caused by the conflict, which is far less than it could have been.

One problem was that the main target, the citadel, kept repairing in real time while all of the ships were engaged in “time dilation” that slowed down the fight so that the system could process it all. Attackers claim that this gave the defenders an unfair advantage and created an impossible objective.

Source: Twitter, PCGamesN
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possum440 .

Corrupt devs. Ancient Server tech decides who wins and people in that game still think of their time invested as real money. Chuckle.

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Terranid .

Well here is someone who doesn’t know what they are talking about.

Their server is a literal supercomputer with all the updates, what is this about ancient server tech? Name me one single game that can have 6000 people on a single shard in the same place at the same time. You cannot, because that game 1. Doesn’t exist and 2. If it does exist, is something with stick figures or is text only.

Yes the devs have been acting moronic recently, but blame the guy at the top the pile [Hilmar] for his monumental bad decision making.

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Jonny Sage

The fact that you can even try to have a 7000 person battle is amazing in itself. All other MMOs will instance you out way before that.

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TotalCowage .

Dramatic music intensifies… inspirational quotes appear…

1 frame per second update of a spreadsheet, and what looks like ASCII artwork for 3 minutes or so results.

Never change, EvE Online videos!

But yeah, I know, I know, that ASCII represented so many dollars, and it’s all about the politics and corps and imagining how internet spaceships are serious business… it’s just boring as all hell unless you really, truly do think it’s srs though. I don’t.

Lots of free advertising for EvE though, so in that sense, well done CCP again I guess.

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Spencer Thurman

First of all, Moneybadger alliance isn’t a thing. It’s a Pandemic Horde Keepstar defended by the Panfam coalition.

Second, Tidi only goes to 10% of normal speed, and beyond that the server breaks down. People were constantly disconnecting and taking 20 minutes or more to log back in. Guns wouldn’t cycle or reload, and neither would fighter launchers on the carriers. It was an achievement just to get the repair timer paused. Jumping titans into that would have been suicide for no strategic gains.

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Spencer Thurman

Third, ASCEE is recruiting

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Armsman

So here’s an example of CCPs amazing server tech that allows thousands of ships to engage in combat it one area: The attacking ships go into “Time Dilation” mode (lowering their DPS to nothing – while the Keepstar target heals itself at the regular rate.

And it’s tech they’ve had in place for YEARS. Interesting they never squashed a bug like that – which would have such a unfair effect on combat in all that time.

Way to go CCP – you’re really at the forefront of MMO gaming…oh, wait.

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Terranid .

They ARE at the forefront because no other game can have 6000 people in the same place on the same shard at the same time. Its cute that you think that we can have bazillions of people in other MMO’s but we cannot, there is no precedent. They have to make it up as they go along because no-one else has, its not a bug its just the limitations of modern technology.

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Bryan Correll

As the hippies say:
What if they had a war and no one came?

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Knox Harrington

This about sums up EVE as a whole. You expect something epic going into it but are inevitably disappointed.

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Armsbend

Since we are talking value to ships anyone have a good suggestion of a 3rd party plex for cash site? I have a few billion or so in plex/ships and since this is all worth so much – I’d like to sell it back for real money.

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Sally Bowls

Here is Nosy blogging about just one of the sites that seems to have done over a half million dollars last year.

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Jonny Sage

I dont think thats legal or within TOS. Only EVE can sell plex for cash iirc.

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Armsbend

Hence my Twain-esque attempt at satire.

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kgptzac

Black market RMT is bad, mkay?

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Armsbend

So what is the point of printing real world value cash? See my point now?

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Wilhelm Arcturus

Indeed, falsely values a potential loss, then complains when that value isn’t achieved. But for click bait, it is hard to beat “million dollar video game battle” I guess.

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agemyth 😩

Cry “click bait” if you want, but the only two things that can catch the attention at a glance for non-EVE players is the simple representation of ISK -> PLEX -> real world currency and, to a lesser extent, the number of players participating in a single battle.

It is not as if MOP only reports on EVE if there is something clickworthy either. Most other outlets probably don’t have a dedicated EVE columnist putting out ~2 posts a month on top of covering events as they happen like this. I think Brendan might be unavailable right now due to a death in the family, but Justin here does a fine job of giving the straightforward report.

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Armsbend

Every time there is a pvp battle in Wow, or any other game for that matter, they should calculate the number of people participating multiplied by their sub cost and do an evaluation on their cash shop purchases. For the importance of real world money value – because it matters when nothing of what you have actually has real world value – unless you are directly breaking the TOS of pretty much every video game in existence.

tl;dr these articles are moronic.

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Sally Bowls

Wow pvp cost is easy, $0. But EVE’s RMT is long-standing and pervasive might overstate it but let’s say not uncommon.

As in RL, the danger to your budget and finances is shopping so someone did an addon to remind the “it’s only gold” children that times have changed.
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info23571-Tokenizef2psimulator.html

E.g. the spider mount costs the amount of gold from about eleven $20 tokens, the new lightforged mount three, etc.

Besides, in Wow or EVE, without even breaking the terms of service, you can obviate future RL$ cash payments. I.e., if you have the ISK/gold then you buy tokens with it and avoid having to spend $15 a month. So for three acounts that is $540 per annum. Is there much practical difference between selling your gold for $360 or saving $360 in gaming subscription costs? I think at least for a while, the most efficient way to get Overwatch lootboxes was to play Wow well, convert Wow gold to Blizzard tokens to money in your Blizzard balance which was used to buy Overwatch boxes. And the Destiny launch affected the amount of wow gold to buy a token as people used WoW gold to get RL$ in their Blizzard balance to buy Destiny.

This is all the “street value” way of overvaluing for headline effect; so the 2.6T a month for a year being $350,000 is overstating it. But even as lazy as I am, I would rather have 31T in ISK than $10k. Thr 9th Circuit recently reaffirmed in a EFF vs Oracle case that violating a web site’s policy is not illegal. I have not heard any indication that violating a game’s TOS with currency is illegal.

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Estranged

Armsbend, repair bills are worth RL dollars now, due to tokens. I like it!

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Scratches

Cool story. Perhaps don’t click on or read them then, if these articles are such a waste of your own personal time?

But in the mean time, since you seem to have such an uncontrollable need to click on every news story you see, “moronic” or otherwise, can you give me a rundown on what’s going on with the Kardashians and Kanye these days? I heard big things, but I’ve been out of the loop for a while :(

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Armsbend

They had a kid they named ‘Chicago’. True story. Chicago West.

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Scratches

Wow. Poor kid.. =/

Though I suppose it’s no worse than their first kid, whom they named North. North West……

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Armsbend

North at least sounds kind of cool and rolls off of the tongue easily (even though Northwest is especially dumb like you say). Chicago? Your name is Chicago? Okay then, hi my name is Albuquerque. Bugs Bunny used to have trouble finding me.

But who cares they have moved from entertainment into becoming professional sources of international mockery.

<3 u

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Wilhelm Arcturus

Local count actually went past 6,700 people at the peak of the fight. CCP Falcon reported that the 8 core system on which the battle was running had its processor pegged at 100% for long, long stretches and the process was using as much as 64GB of RAM (though the machine had 256GB of RAM installed, so that wasn’t a limiting factor).

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Pepperzine

I always get so confused when I try to watch an eve battle video. Just have no idea what is going on haha