Black Desert GM punishes a player with a writing assignment

    
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The hard part about being a GM has to be when you’re dealing with a certain brand of player. You know the sort; they’re the ones making other people’s time in the game worse just for giggles. How do you actually punish players who just want to sow chaos and don’t care about the consequences? An enterprising GM for Black Desert tried out a novel technique by banning a reported toxic player… unless said player wrote a 501-word essay.

Of course, there’s more to the story, as it turns out the player in question was reported for being a jerk to roleplayers, and the ban announcement by the GM in question was clearly leaning pretty hard on the “roleplaying” button. The player in question did write as requested and avoided the ban, although it’s not exactly a timeless masterpiece of literature (you can see it in the Reddit thread if you want). Whether or not this was actually effective is up for debate, but we can’t help but think that it was therapeutic for the GM, at the very least. (And as a bonus, there’s always the slim chance that one of us will have to deal with this sort of ban, which will mean we get out of jail for free!)

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Crowe

501 whole words? Not even a slap on the wrist. I could do that in 10 minutes on subjects I know little about. Should have been 1500 words or a 1 week ban to be newsworthy.

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NeoWolf

Id be an awesome GM, my only punishment for douche bags would be strapping them to a rocket and firing them into the sun, job done. Next run for the presidency :)

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ceder

Some of the most snide and abusive players I’ve ever encountered in games have been RPers who think all others game play is subordinate to their own. I don’t disdain rping, let me make that clear. I just simply cant stand the segment act just as bad as the “death to rper” types.

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Bruno Brito

“–]GM_Rhotaaz 193 pontos 6 dias ago
Despite the contentious nature, the Pantheon has acknowledged that the terms of the challenge have been met.
However, Kimochi of House Dremlock, we utter this warning. Ignore it at your peril!
We will watch you in the rumbling hills, We will watch you on the trade routes, We will watch you battle Bheg, We will watch you on the forums, We will watch you on Reddit, We will watch you on Calpheon 2,
PROTECT THE RPERS!”

This guy is a fucking legend.

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Melissa McDonald

so is John Wayne Gacy

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Yoshi Senpai

I have some friends who RP in this game. Why? Who knows? They should go to FFXIV or ESO since those games are way better for it and have actual lore, but I digress.

The issue I see with this ass hat is he not simply being a D-bag in game. He stalks discords and RP community websites to get info on who is RPing and where the events are taking place and then will keep attacking. He will be repelled, but simply spawn near by and keep coming back all the while spamming “DEATH TO RPERS!!!” in chat.

All this GM did was give this troll in game celebrity status and encouraged more to bandwagon on and now those friends are finally listening to me tell them to join me on games much better suited for RP.

GG GM.

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Melissa McDonald

sort of a dumb question, but I don’t mean that unkindly. The excellence of the avatar creator and the graphics of this game, and the emotes, lend well to those who seek RP. I can’t say RP in my experience has ever had that much to do with Lore. Maybe in EQ or LOTRO.

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Yoshi Senpai

I’ll take you calling my words as dumb as a kind challenge for me to clarify.

Yes, the graphics and world map are great, but the emotes system is average at best and can lead to some really stupid looking interactions when used in practical RP applications.

For example, when typing dialog your character moves as if they are casually explaining their day. A cool little feature that I love in FFXIV, but in BDO if you talk to a female avatar you’ll be laughing no matter how serious the scene is due their boobs literally dancing on their chest from the subtle movements of just talking. Another issue with dialog is the game has a cool feature where it links emotes to words. I say cool because in casual game play it’s a nice touch that when you say “over here” your character waves there hand and goes “HEY! HEY!” and jumps up and down. In RP you might be saying “He was struck down just over here.” in a solemn tone, but your character starts hopping up and down wave there hands in the air because the game saw you say a trigger word.

Another strike against the emotes/animations is the “RP walk”. First off you have to hold down a button as if it were a sprint. Why it’s not a toggle like every other game is baffling, but not it’s only offense. The animation looks like the marching of a soldier in a military parade in a third world country. It is super unnatural.

I will touch briefly on the importance of good lore for RPers. It gives consistency and prevents player characters from completely clashing with each other because the game makers have built a world that has set the framework that which players can tinker with. Take the elves for instance; some might see them as female only and reproduce magically because there is no mention or presence of males. Other’s might have stories of having a father. Elf A tells Elf B how their race is better off not having men because some drunkard got too handsy and Elf B goes on to say her father was a great man(elf). Whose right? Who knows! Your character who has grown into an adult should, but the devs have not given that important info as of yet. Disclaimer: that bit of lore might have finally been clarified with the launch of new zones, but that is just one of many things that are left out.

Last, but not least. Ganking is allowed in this game. You leave the town to go on an adventure some level 60 can ruin that for you and there is not much you can do besides switch zones every 15 mins.

I know you’ll disagree because you defend this game on every article, but from my point of view as an active RPer in multiple MMOs including BDO, this game is sub par for RP and there are much better options.

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Bionicall

I would respectfully disagree on there being a lack of “good lore”. Admittedly it is not blatant and obvious. It is not built up from a series of games (ESO, WOW). It is only touched upon from doing the main story content. For your specific example, Elf A is right, there are no elven men(there is not a single elven man in the game – this could change as lore is expanded on), however Elf B could have a great MAN (as in human) father. The one example is the main character Orwen, who is half breed.

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Yoshi Senpai

You can’t be sure of that. Could be true could be a game thing. Since there are full blooded elves, pictures of male elves that were cut before release and even NPCs calling what is now a woman model “he” still. Here is a picture of a male elf Man elf and a thread of confused RPers http://www.blackdesertroleplayers.com/mobile/forum/viewthread/page/1/m/33755660/id/26456846-lore-concern-are-elves-amazonians since you can’t even go by NPC text because it was lazily translated and they screw up pronouns all the time.

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ihatevnecks

Yep, there are definitely elven men, they’re just not playable because (as usual) the game’s catered to the “I want a waifu” playerbase with the elves so far. Male elven ranger was shown in early game trailers, and the devs have said as recently as December that they’re considering a male elf DK version down the line.

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Bionicall

Messily translated pronouns aside, the point I made about “good lore” is still valid (although we could argue what consists “good” forever). The elven men had been cut out, such that there is none present in the game world. The reason behind that has not been officially revealed. Thus to be consistent and roleplaying with the lore of the game as it stands, there would be no elven men (at least in Calpheon/Serendia/Valencia/Mediah).

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Bryan Correll

Take the elves for instance; some might see them as female only and reproduce magically because there is no mention or presence of males.

Well, if the “essay” written by Kimochi is canonical, elves only appear to be all female when they are in fact hermaphrodites.

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Melissa McDonald

I agree with you that good lore can make for better RP. But most games don’t have that, and people simply make their own RP pretty successfully. That’s what a lot of these MMO designers don’t seem to understand. The value of props. They enable RP. All you have to do is make a wedding dress available in the store or by crafting, and voila, you will have weddings in your game. Just give people enough props and places to socialize and they’ll write in their own lore every time.

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roo woods

The trouble is other than outright racism ( or botting etc of course ) very little gets people perma banned . Normally antisocial behavior is either dealt with by a ban of a few days ( maybe a week at most ) .

And I know for a fact Blizzard doesn’t even perma ban people for racism because I remember a guy a few years ago who in a war front spouted off some of the most vile comments I have heard in an mmo in regards to both black people and Jewish people . I took a screen shot reported him and you know what six months later he was still there .

Elder Scrolls is another game with a lot of antisocial players the other day I was healing a dungeon and while i kept up with the tank and the other dps got preoccupied killing mobs on his own ( this was not on a boss fight ) and got himself killed . This was enough to set him off with a tirade of personal abuse against me calling me every name under the sun which I screenshot and reported but you know what I bet nothing will be done and this idiot of a player will be doing it again and again and again .

Its not always leveled at me ( in fact its only happened a handful of times ) but it seems to happen in every other dungeon to someone and its got so annoying I have turned off all whispers , yells , say and group chat . Turning off most communications shouldn’t be what mmos are about but in some games like ESO its the only way to have a fun time .

I think there is a worry that if they really wield the ban hammer then profits will drop and I don’t think it should be done on a first offence but maybe after a designated number of antisocial actions within a game over a period of a year and there should be a perma ban . Everyone can have an off day and say something but if someone does it repeatedly then they deserve to lose their account .

I think this solution while funny wouldn’t work long term because the perpetrators would soon cut and paste everything from others who have done similar ( i suppose you could make them do it in written form rather than typed and then send a photo of it ) .

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odin valhalla

Well not all games are equal. As an example I recall in LOTRO (going back a ways) they would suspend you pretty quick if they got complaints. Even still, I know people who would exploit a known bug in the moors over and over for literally years on end and get reported, suspended and then do it again. You mentioned ESO, it’s been my experience in that game they are pretty hands off. There are all sorts of things that have happened in that MMO (botting, exploit scripts, inventory hacks) that were way past someone being abusive.
They have that too, as you found out but reporting in ESO is largely a waste of time. I’m not a big fan of capital punishment overall but it’s been my experience when you go the extreme on one or two everyone gets in line pretty quick.
A nice example from antiquity: Sun Tzu was challenged by a lord to demonstrate his legendary military discipline using 180 women from the lord’s house. Several of these women were the lord’s concubines and Sun got them lined up and told them what he expected.

“When I wave my hand you move forward” He told them.

He waved his hand and they all burst out laughing “When an army fails to heed a commander’s instruction it is often because the commander gave poor instruction.

He then instructed them again, making sure he gave detailed instructions and spent time with several of the participants to ensure they understood. Many, smiling quietly, nodded and proclaimed they understood. Confident he had communicated clearly he waved his hand again, to the same result, laughter.

“When the commander gives clear instruction, and the army does not obey it is because of lack of discipline”

Sun Tzu then looked to the lord and asked “which two are the senior wives?” The lord pointed them out, and sun tzu ordered his assistants to behead both of them. The lord leapt up and pleaded for a reprieve but it was too late, the two women were dead.

None of the other women laughed, they all stood silently. Sun Tzu then waved his hand, they all moved forward.

The point is when you implement discipline you often only have to do it once to let people know you mean what you say. Most others will fall in line pretty quickly if it is a reasonable request.

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Crow

Bandroval has become a lesser server after the merges, in part because the zero-tolerance stuff was gone.

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Roger Melly

Still lotro generally speaking is a much nicer community than most mmos even if it is not quite a nice as it used to be .

I’ve been playing 8 years and I still have yet to find someone so antisocial that I feel a need to add them to my ignore list .

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Roger Melly

Good story and I totally agree . I think ESO probably has the worst community I have experienced in a game since quitting WoW back in 2009 . I like the game itself but turning off most of the chat options ( other than guild and zone chat ) is a must .

For that reason it will never be more than a casual mmo for me . I probably will just play the vanilla content and move on until there is a heavy reduction on the expansion because I don’t want to invest too much money in the game because of its poor community ( even though I like the actual game itself ) .

I hope they do deal with the antisocial behavior in the ESO community by making some examples of people but personally I doubt they will do that and ESO will continue to have a very poor reputation .

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Bryan Correll

That essay is….oh my.

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MrNastyButler

That’s actually a rather nice way to apply a ban and get out of a ban. Though, I think I would be a little nice and all him to go over 501 words by a little bit.

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mcsleaz

I think’s it’s about time the Dev’s banned all the fish botter’s. Player’s have been using the fish bot since release and for the last two mnths the Bot is even advertised almost daily in world chat.

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Greaterdivinity

Caught this last week when the dude posted about it on reddit. Told the dude to enjoy his ban. Got called salty as a result.

Black Desert has the best community : )