Blizzard’s Ion Hazzikostas says WoW Classic’s cramped servers will reduce community disruption later

    
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Frustrated with WoW Classic’s queues? Grumpy because you expected Blizzard to have learned a trick or two about launches in the last 15 years? You’re not alone, as forumgoers are getting testy over the long waits. In response to one comment about server count and capacity, particularly in regard to some of the small-to-medium servers that still see long queues, Blizzard’s Ion Hazzikostas, best known to the World of Warcraft community as the live MMO’s game director, penned a few words.

“From the start of planning for this launch, we’ve tried to prioritize the long-term health of our realm communities, recognizing that if we undershot the mark in terms of launch servers, we could move quickly to add additional realms in the opening hours,” he told players. “But if we went out with too many servers, weeks or months down the line we’d have a much tougher problem to solve. While we have tools like free character transfers available as a long-term solution to underpopulated realms, everything about that process would be tremendously disruptive to realm communities, and so it’s something we want to avoid as much as possible. Thus, we took the path of launching with few enough realms to still thrive in the event that our most conservative estimates ended up proving accurate, while having enough servers ready to activate at a moment’s notice if needed. And clearly they were, and are, needed.”

Blizzard has continued adding new servers to meet the demand, upwards of 20 new ones in the last day, Hazzikostas says. Most recently, the company added a new Oceanic realm, Felstriker.

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kjempff

Instead of writing of paying customers as “owell too bad”.

I think the real solution is merging of servers when that falloff happens. The merging rounds may need to happen twice or thrice with the expectancy of around 10% of the launch numbers will stick past the 3 month mark.
Anyways .. maybe they expect a major falloff after only a few weeks, and that would be a self-fulfilling plan because if you can’t play then you WILL quit :D

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xpsync

“maybe they expect a major falloff after only a few weeks”

From what i can tell, that ain’t going to happen. wow is a ghost town now everyone is playing wow, lmao :)

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Nathan Aldana

I mean, I havent noticed any loss of players over on ff14 so I’m going to file this under Hyperbole and selection bias

Doubly so because I know people who are still playing retail wow as we speak.

Amd saying “I dont think its gonna happen” on day 3 just shows me you;ve never seen how MMO launches go. Theres always tons of enthusiasm and people writing op eds about games success, then give it a month and half the players have moved on.

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kjempff

Lost me. I am talking about players who will leave WoW classic servers after the initial rush.. What are you guys talking about?

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Nathan Aldana

He’s convinced retail wow is a ghost town and Classic will reign forevermore or someshit.

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NecrococoPlays

The merges still disrupt the communities that are at the core of the classic experience.

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kjempff

It does ? Maybe you are right, guess I would have to be a classic fan to understand.
I have never felt part of a server specific community in WoW, maybe a tiny bit when I played Eq, but never something I found to be important or significant.
Game community sure, server community not really.

For me it is about the players I meet not the server I am on.. and with that in mind server merging doesn’t remove any of those players. Obviously completely free transfer is another case.

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Bereman

More like MoP or WoD fan, as that was then began their “not really merges but really are” process that was still disruptive to communities. They’ve never officially merged one server into others, but they have connected low-pop servers with others and just set it up so your original realm name is affixed to the end of your name.

Even with the name issue side-stepped, there was still plenty of disruption of communities, even at that point so far removed from vanilla.

To get a real sense of the disruption, you have to look at other games that have done full on, actual merges, complete with the removal of servers as an option, the shrinking server selection list, etc.

It’s definitely disruptive when it happens, and if it can be avoided – even through inconveniences now – then doing so is the better option.

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draugris

Yeah World of Waitcraft Classic has arrived… Seriously this was handled completely unprofessional by Blizzard imo. They added new Servers way too late and offered zero help or tools to help guilds (especially larger guild) to switch. In my guild we rerolled immediately when they offered a second pvp server, now this server is also Full and has queues for 4-5 hours during prime time. It is ridiculous.

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xpsync

They can’t admit they fucked over the retail version so bad that wow has now officially killed wow.

It’s insane a 3 f’ing hour wait to get on the server i want to play on and it’s not even an overly popular one.

Here is the thing i f’ing waited (think that about says it all) so i can play where i want to be, and you can’t even play retail while you wait ffs. WOW!

Got no hate for retail but classic is so so so so so much better, you feel the dev love ooozing out of every pixel and that’s what makes it so great. It was 100% about making a great game, not appeasing to all the carebear whining for stockholders.

By the time i got on, MJ’s stream had already started, joined a guild already what a major difference to retail, people chatting in the woods, just grouping up all over the place unbelievably social, everyone is in their glory seventh heaven just so many fucking happy players.

The only hurdle are the queue’s it’s fucking ridiculous in 2019 ffs.

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Nathan Aldana

“you can feel the love oozing out of every pixel” read: It satisfies my personal wants in a game so I project it being what everyone wants”

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NecrococoPlays

Until you’re on a dead server in the next 6-12 mos after the hype dies down. It’s not unprofessional at all, it’s a long-term strategy instead of short-term reactionary measures which create bigger issues in the long term. But, they’ve only been doing this for 15 years, with multiple other popular titles, so I’m sure they just don’t know what they’re doing. 🙄

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draugris

So you are that optimistic that people accept this login queue shitshow for 6 months ? I give them 4 weeks and people will start to disappear, it is just another way to alienate your customer base,but hey, as you have said, they have a 15-year experience in doing that :) . It was unprofessional to underestimate the demand and it is still unprofessional to not offer some coordinated way for guilds to change to a new server.

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Nathan Aldana

people will disappear in weeks regardless. Wow classic will not magically hold everyones interest forever

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driveled

Good news, the login queues are a feature.

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hurbster

I followed their advice and chose a less busy realm. Worst queue so far has been five minutes or so.

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Techno Wizard

F for respect, BFA.

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Taken just now at 3:40PM, so peak-time won’t start for another couple hours yet.

Blizzards gonna’ freak and another PVP server aren’t they? Haha.

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It does make sense to keep population high on current servers by not adding too many new servers. What doesn’t make sense is allowing people to create huge queues on a single particular server. For example, a lot of streamers chose Faerlina as their server, this in turn made 10’s of 1000’s of their viewers also wanting to create character there. This created a largest queue out of all other US servers. Blizzard should’ve done what Square Enix did with FFXIV: just not let new players connect to queue if the server is overloaded, meaning you will not be able to join queue on servers with “Full” population if you do not already have character on the server. This would distribute population more evenly and allow shorter login times for people who have already created characters on this server.

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Hravik

Remember folks, you only think you want it, but you don’t.

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memitim

I don’t think I want it, but maybe I do! I’m so confused! :D

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Nathan Aldana

I mean. I dont actually want it nor did I think i did, b8t happy for the people who did, just sick of their passive aggressive sniping.

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Lethality

The won’t want it in a few weeks. The majority of servers will feel dead.

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NecrococoPlays

Exactly why this is a sound strategy. I was worried that they were opening too many servers – I’ve seen the hype die off in too many games, leaving way too many ghost servers. Which then makes players howl about poor planning then, too.. the dev can’t win. When the shine wears off, I think most people will go back to their other titles – as I am skeptical about the level of dedication people are willing to put in here in the long term, especially when they can experience the modern, easy-mode version in the retail client.

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Nathan Aldana

annoyingly for once I have to agree with Lethality, because yeah, there will be a core playerbase for whom classic is all they ever wanted. But a lot of people just wanna be part of a cultural zeitgeist

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Denice J. Cook

Even more new servers have gone up in the past 20 minutes, like Thunderfury PvP, and they’ve already blasted up to High or Full.

I’m staying put, but I’ve begun to wonder what will happen when former family members, friends and guildies who used to play with those already playing decide to come a’callin’. Everyone is so sure everything will drop off that no one is considering any additional community returning, nor MMO media word of mouth.

1.1 million Twitch viewers for Classic yesterday, man. 1.1 million! Tell me none of those are going to come wandering back on top of what we’ve already got! And I doubt too many of the peeps already playing were watching Twitch at the same time. If any were, they were doing some serious face plants in-game.

1.1 million….I’ll bet current WoW barely has more than that in subs, and you can pay for those with in-game gold besides.

:P

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NecrococoPlays

But the hype will die off, too. It always does. What then?

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Sorenthaz

Makes perfect sense.

Burning Crusade had that exact problem where they put up too many extra servers and fractured communities.

Also the hype will almost definitely die down in a week or two. My only gripe is that Eastern Kingdoms crashed last night so everyone on that side got screwed over and stuck in 3+ hour long queues which is especially annoying on the PvP servers where I’m pretty sure the Horde population outnumbers Alliance on every one. So the sweatiest Horde PvPers are above anyone that didn’t roll Night Elf or move to Darkshore and will be getting into the contested areas ahead of others.

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Carlo Lacsina

Lol “sweatiest horde pvpers” has to be the funniest thing I’ve read today XD

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Thanos Karageorgiadis

I was leveling in Teldrassil where we had some dwarf/human players having a party because they managed to escape Eastern Kingdoms disaster. It was really funny :)