WoW Classic continues un-layering layered servers, video examines WoW Classic’s meaningfulness

    
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Blizzard continues to shut down layering across various realms in World of Warcraft: Classic, with another batch having deactivated the intentionally temporary measure to bring all characters on to a single layer. This means that only a handful of servers still do have layers, something that will soon be shown directly on the server selection screen; according to the studio, population markers (high/medium/low) will be shown only for non-layered servers, while those with layers still on will simply read as “Layered.” The goal for the team is still to turn all layers off before phase 2 of the game’s content rolls out.

If you’re less interested in layering and more interested in an in-depth analysis of what makes WoW Classic specifically appealing to a group of fans beyond the self-imposed gatekeepers and internet shouty people, you might enjoy Dan Olson’s lengthy video about what appeals in Classic that’s distinct from the retail game, what that says about the differences in design philosophy, and what special things it really does offer. To quote one of his own thesis statements: “If there is nothing to do, if nothing is meaningful, then you’re free to self-direct.” It’s a long watch at 40 minutes, but it’s well worth the watch just the same.

Source: Official Site, Folding Ideas; thanks to Daniel for the tip

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Techno Wizard

I wonder what impact Classic has had on BFA’s population.

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Joey

Sheesh this video has a lot of buzzwords lol. 40 minutes to say Classic sucks. I love Asmongold too, I kind of take issue with him calling him out. Retail WoW deserves a lot of the negative criticism it gets in my opinion as well.

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Akagi

WoW Classic has got to be the best MMORPG release in years.

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Malcolm Swoboda

I heard my server turned off layering. I’d love to check but I don’t really have the time to sub again soon. Hopefully before or during ‘Phase 2’! Not that I’d accomplish much, but hopefully all Lv 1-30 content.

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rosieposie

I thought once the nostalgia wore off I’d be gone in a moment, but no, I’m actually getting more and more hyped and into it as I’m continuing to play. There’s something so refreshing about your MMO not being a work checklist of chores.

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silverlock

Some of the more popular servers still have hour long queues on the weekend. As for me I play on Westfall which turned out to be a good choice it has a high active pop without the queues of other servers.

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draugris

I had to stop leveling at some point. The Quests and the whole process is so unbelievably boring, I could not stand it anymore. So respect to anybody who made it till 60, you have really thick skin. I would not mind a long time leveling but in WoW Classic it is simply unfun to me.

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Utakata

So the population is being stabilized to those who remain interested and/or committed?

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styopa

Yes, but also it’s because the population is no longer concentrated heavily in n00b zones.

So I’d guess that (I’m CERTAIN that) some people have gotten their fill and left Classic* but I’m equally certain there’s still an inflow of people who skipped the starting crush or have heard good word-of-mouth about it and are joining. We have had a recent influx in our guild of people who said they finally decided to give it a try in the last week or two.

I’d guess mainly it’s the spread of players across all levels and zones as the larger impact; you see it in Org and Stormwind, instead of the vast majority of players being <30 and the AH struggling to sell high-end items, there's a more even mix of levels and an ample number of 60s.

*not sure why there still seems to be some noisy trolls who feel compelled to advertise. Yesterday, someone was shouting in global “I am so over this stupid game”…ok, then go? Juvenile attention-seeking is my guess.

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Dobablo

The traditional reply to such attention seekers is “Can I have your gold?”

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Utakata

“Yes, but also it’s because the population is no longer concentrated heavily in n00b zones.”

…that would be the interest and/or committed I was was referring too. That is, they’ve moved beyond the n00b zones, without their attention drifting back to Retail. o.O

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styopa

I took it as more general. I do see some players admitting fatigue, boredom, frustration with the slow pace of leveling.

There was so very much bad/incomplete information out there for people who’d never played Vanilla “Hunters are easy mode dps”, “Warriors are the best dps”, “Druids can’t tank”, etc based off of pservers or true only for narrow circumstances of gear or raids, with people not really internalizing how MUCH of the experience is leveling and how little is “endgame raidz0rs”.

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Matthew Yetter

Everywhere I go, there are a lot of players running around, doing stuff. Even the newbie zones have ample players in them — some people coming in now that the onslaught is over, and some who just want to try out other classes and/or races. I would say that across the existing servers the experience is pretty much identical to what we saw at this point after the original launch.

The people I talk to consistently say that they have no interest in ever going back to Retail. We’ll see what happens when everyone has multiple max-level characters with nothing new to do but for now the sentiment is overwhelmingly positive.

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Utakata

Well …good for them! Retail is chugging along just nicely like that too. I am just glad there are two viable options for peeps to play when they sign up to a WoW subscription. /shrug

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Paragon Lost

35 servers, most anytime I check I see high to full servers. In the early mornings are the only time I see medium population listings. It’s been pretty impressive just how many people are playing.

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Utakata

I gotta feeling here there’s a lot love here for Classic at the cryptic expense of Retail…as I am being kept finger wagged on how “Wonderful” classic is. May I remind readers of this I recently wrote here:

Ask Mo: Second chances, hate wagons, and the MMORPG grudge game

(Note: Scroll way down to the bottom if the link doesn’t take you there.)

Or tl,dr: What you folks find wonderful is not so much for me. And there is nothing you can say about that will convince me otherwise. As there is nothing I can say to you to convince you that WoW Classic is not really cut out for me. So what is the point?

Getting back on topic: You can read today’s developments that the WoW Classic servers as stabilizing most likely to something that’s more sustainable and manageable. While the curiosity tourists that where bottle necking the servers seem to have long left. You should take that as good news.

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Joey

I’ve read a lot of comments from you over the years too mate. You can be kind of overly sensitive when it comes to retail.

I think you need to understand that this criticism for retail for many players comes from a sense of them wanting the game just to be better. I don’t think they hate WoW or retail for that matter.

It is no secret that retail WoW feels kind of aimless and that the current state of the game is just bad for a lot of the veteran folks though.

I think this is why people have embraced Classic honestly.
I think this is our way of thumbing our noses at Blizzard for the years of bad choices they made for the game. It is like a revolution of sorts.

Also, you need to stop taking this all so personal as well. If you like retail WoW then great, that game isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. I doubt Classic is going to have any kind of impact on that.

At the end of the day, we are WoW fans right? Does it matter what version people are enjoying? I can’t stand all this Classic vs Retail nonsense anymore and I’m kind of disappointed that Bree advertised this video in the first place. That video had a very clear bias against Classic WoW.

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Utakata

Err…putting aside the armchair psychology of taking it “personal” aside…

…it should be made clear, I really have no love for retail in it’s current BFA state either (although I’ve being seeing some improvements of late). At least in comparison what worked for Legion, and to degree, BC, Wrath and MoP. My issue has been as a veteran for 15 years that Blizz needs to move forward with game and not backwards. While at the same time not removing and /or fixing things in the game that have actually worked.

That said, I do like BfA better than Classic…this should not be taken as a ringing endorsement of it though. /shrug

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Joey

My server still has queues on the weekends. Doesn’t seem like it is dying down any time soon.