LOTRO considers improving its business model as players present Weatherstock XIII

    
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After years of guarded communication, Lord of the Rings Online’s fanbase has a new champion in Producer Oleg “Raninia” Brodskiy, who joined SSG a few months ago. In yet another public interview, Brodskiy spent over an hour talking with YouTuber Bludborn about many of the current hot topics, such as the legendary item revamp and the upcoming Gundabad expansion.

Speaking of his vision for the game, Brodskiy said that he’s been pushing the team to be ambitious and pitch the coolest ideas. While there are no firm plans announced past 2021, LOTRO’s producer said that there’s a good high-level overview of what the next three years of the game will be like.

Brodskiy also said that a lot of discussion was happening around improving LOTRO’s 10-year-old business model, as both players and devs aren’t pleased with how it currently functions. “No one I spoke to liked [LOTRO’s monetization]. No one I spoke to was like, ‘This is good, I like this, this is the best way for us to do this.’ No one was happy about it, but everyone felt trapped because this is the way it’s always been.”

In a different corner of the community, LOTRO’s long-running Weatherstock festival is returning this Saturday, July 17th, for its 13th “baker’s dozen” player concert series. Almost 20 player bands are scheduled to rock Weathertop on the Landroval server for a good part of the day.

Source: YouTube, Weatherstock. Thanks Grumpsgang!
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Ben Stone

Just copy ESOs model, its pretty much the industry standard these days. Sub gives access to everything. Game quest / area packs for those who like piecemeal. Some cosmetic fluff to milk those whales.

Would I prefer everything be included in a simple sub and rewarded by gameplay? Of course, but this is 2021. That has been off the table for quite some time now.

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Stormsong Minstrel

Nice words, little trust in them.

No one was happy about it, but everyone felt trapped because this is the way it’s always been

Like – dear devs, who introduced “mini-expansions”? Lord Sauron? YOU.
Who introduced good armour that drops only from trashboxes and lootkeys are from store only? Lord Sauron? YOU.
Who removed trashbox keys from gameplay? Lord Sauron? YOU.
Who introduced “we spit on LP owners” period, when content cannot be received for LPs? Lord Sauron? YOU.
It has not always been this way.
Revert madness you, dear dev$, created. Make all content free for VIPs. Make content prices realistic (whoever asked almost 200$ for Mordor, smoked really much weed). Ask and introduce more pirivleges for VIPs. Remove LIs completely, let them sail to Valinor/Void. Sell only cosmetics.
And then, satisfied players would have “a million reasons” to pay.
Will you listen, dear dev$?

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Ardra Diva

/insert Joe Blobers-like blissfully myopic white knight defense of LOTRO, my primary game.

:-)

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Vincent Clark

Everything up to and including Moria should be free to play. Everything after that should require an active sub to play. I will die on this hill. If you want to play an MMORPG with ongoing, quality content…you will pay for that content. Otherwise, you’re just going to have to deal with the fact that the MMORPG in question is “forced” to develop content in such a way that it leads you to the store. Or worse, release “mini-expansions” for that extra cash grab.

I saw a video recently where someone tried LotRO for the first time and it was telling that one of their complaints was how often the store is thrown in your face. I guess if you’ve played it for awhile, you become numb to all the pop ups or mithril coin option antics.

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Bruno Brito

I harped about the LoTRO monetization for quite a while because…well, it IS pretty bad, but it’s not that bad after i started playing it. Getting points isn’t hard if you’re willing to put in the extra work, and since LoTRO already fills you with that oldschool vibe of slow but steady, then grinding stuff isn’t really that hard ( until you get to Lonelands, then your deeds get to like 120 mobs advanced and F U C K T H A T ).

That being said, i rather they simply took the quest packs off, and gave us everything besides the newer xpacs. Having to spend your points on quest packs to progress when you could buy the “conveniences” you also NEED is pretty bs.

Like expanding your wallet, mounts or the wardrobe since your bags fill too quickly.

I feel like LoTRO would benefit a lot from QoL alike GW2. Put GW2’s wardrobe system and crafting bag in the game and i’m gucci.

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Bannex

Lotros monetization model is so bad it takes the one thing that game is good at (immersion) and shits dollar signs all over it.

The person that directed the free to play transition should issue a public apology.

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Bruno Brito

Eh, it’s bad but i’ve played worse, honestly.

Again, i think the most egregious shit is the questpacks. Without them, you would be swimming in enough points to buy the most vital stuff for your character and later, account. Mounts, wallet, wardrobe and backpack expansion are the things i think are mandatory to “really good to have”.

But i won’t lie that if it had GW2’s system, i would be really happy with it. Imagine LoTRO with a crafting bag ( a f2p one ) and a good wardrobe that doesn’t lock you into either filling slots or holding items in the bag? The stuff of dreams right there.

I also have to be honest here and mention that i play a Red Minstrel. So, grinding mobs is a fucking ordeal and i should be given a goddamn crown and a kingdom for finishing all the starter zones completely.

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Bannex

“Help us repel the hordes of Saruman…for $5.99… and in order to carry our quest item in your exceptionally full bags I’ll direct you to our digital store… that has a cute little turtle shell backpack on sale.
.. mighty hero!”

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Bruno Brito

As long as they get rid of quest packs, i don’t care if they skin a live hobbit to sell as a bag.

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Paragon Lost

I’d rather the effort be focused on replacing or a total revamp of the legendary item slog myself. That would get me to reinstall and sub again.

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Tobasco da Gama

Speaking just for myself: I like paying for quest packs. Like, actually for real. It prefer it to buying “convenience” from a cash shop or subscription.

From my perspective, the big mistake SSG have made is in pushing these “mini-expansions” that conveniently just happen to not be purchasable with the LP subscribers earn throughout the year. (At least, not until months later when most other players have “finished” the new content.) It’s just insulting, and everyone knows what they’re doing.

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Life_Isnt_Just_Dank_Memes

I feel exactly the same. Back when I played I purchased the packs I liked as a leveling path and didn’t need to sub all the time. It was great. I went back for the first time in about a decade and was appalled to see I’d have to spend like 250 bux or so if I wanted to catch up. I could have been glossing over some overall expansion pack, but their cash shop was always so gross to me. That’s why I quit and stayed away for over a decade.

The game is so old now, I didn’t even get any of the butterflies I got when originally going into Rivendell. It just hasn’t aged well at all and it’s too bad because this IP deserved a new MMO with modern mechanics and a facelift 10 years ago.

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Tobasco da Gama

They finally created an “expansion trove” bundle that collects all the expansions up to and including Mordor for $60, but if you’re subscribing to the game all those can be bought with the LOTRO Points that come with your subscription as you get to them. The thing that galls me is that if you’re a subscriber not only do you still need to buy the expansions but you can’t even spend your accumulated LP on them.

IMO, the fairest era of LOTRO was in between Helm’s Deep and Mordor. All the quest packs released at the time were free to VIPs, which is how it should be. If someone is paying $100/year for your game, you shouldn’t be asking them to spend more on top of that just to get the latest content.

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TheDefensior

Another option, not officially from SSG but reputable nevertheless, is getting more than half of the Trove pack (Moria, Mirkwood, Isengard and Rohan) as a quad pack for $17 through Cheap Punk.