CCP Games thinks EVE Online is about to make it big in China and Korea

    
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Boom.

We’ve previously covered CCP Games’ Hilmar Petersson’s comments on not giving up after all EVE Online’s unsuccessful spinoffs, including most recently Project Nova. But it’s starting to seem likely that CCP isn’t too concerned specifically because it thinks EVE itself is about to explode overseas.

Speaking with GIbiz at Reboot Develop Blue last week, Petersson suggests that Pearl Abyss’ acquisition of CCP has boosted the Korean playerbase and that its foray into the Chinese market is also about to blow up, partly because of a burgeoning regional interest in sci-fi.

“A big part of our plan going forward had to do with Asia overall. […] The reason why we’re pushing on it now is that, historically, science fiction has not been a big topic in Korea and China. But ever since China set its eyes on space, building a massive space programme… And then there was a pretty profound moment with the novel The Three Body Problem — an amazing science fiction book written by a Chinese author [Liu Cixin] — when you read that book it’s like, yes, that is relevant to our times right now. That has turned sci-fi more and more popular in China.”

Source: GIbiz
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K38FishTacos

So not gonna work: No lolis, no gender locked classes, no cute furries, etc.

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silverlock

While the Chinese do love to play PvP empire building games vs the west I’m not so sure it would be as big a draw with an all Chinese audience, but I’ll admit to not knowing much about the gaming scene in China.

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PurpleCopper

Is CCP Games a one-trick pony? Is EvE their only successful game so far? What makes the devs think that a game that is a couple decades old will be successful in China or Korea?

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Loopy

EVE’s age is not showing at all, as CCP has been progressively updating the graphics and systems since its initial launch.

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silverlock

Are these rhetorical questions? If not then the answer to the first two is yes, for the third wishful thinking maybe?

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Covynant001

Perhaps because one of the most popular MMORPGS in Korea is even older, and BDO has some success with China and other Asian markets.

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styopa

You’d have thought that if Sino-SciFi was going to explode it would have been:
a) in 2015, when 3-body problem won the Hugo (not nearly as great a book as reputed, imo)
b) in 2008 when Shenzhou 7 had the first Taikonaut spacewalk, or
c) in 2003 when Shenzhou 5 put the first Taikonaut in space AND Eve was still relevant.

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Tom Romdal

You do know that China has just landed on the Moon? That big white body in the sky.

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styopa

Clearly, my entire point is destroyed by my failure to present a COMPREHENSIVE timeline of Chinese space accomplishments.

And here I just thought I’d already belabored the point to death.

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Bruno Brito

Oh, the bots will fit right in the dumpsterfire that is EVE’s playerbase.

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PanagiotisLial1

EVE’s playerbase is a lot hit and miss like most modern games. You can easily find good groups(some of my best online friends come from there which are very good people) and you can also find as easy some terrible people too. For me thankfully I had (mostly) good luck on finding good groups(corporations too) there. I do have one very bad case as well though on the 7 years I play

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Bruno Brito

Oh, i’m just generalizing for the sake of being a funny dick, as is per tradition.

That being said, i don’t think every EVE player is a cheating douche, nor do i think every asian player is a milked idiot or a goldseller.

But that EVE itself is a game that kinda festers with such behavior, and that asian communities for some reason kinda invite a boom of goldsell spam and botting.

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PanagiotisLial1

I think CCP is a company with many talented designers and coders etc but lacks a bit on management. They misjudged on giving up world of darkness, and on devoting time to dust and valkyrie and that is on management. Also they were experts on sandboxes and tried to place their feet where they had little to no experience – big risk.

However I enjoy EVE and play it and I think they had been mostly doing a good job on it. Their future plans seem encouraging too. And how many 2003-04 released games can claim they are up to modern standards as EVE is?
Expanding to more markets should had happened….yesterday. I dont think it will be as big as they hope for but it will be an important growth.

EVE is one of those games I will always return to and always offers me various activities to do

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styopa

“how many 2003-04 released games can claim they are up to modern standards as EVE is”

Except…Eve ain’t there.

I like a lot of things about Eve but…no, I wouldn’t say EVE is anywhere close to ‘modern standards’. The hardware focus (avoiding humaniforms, really) allows it to graphically dodge that “aging” appearance but graphically it’s more or less the same game it’s always been. Trinity and Apocrypha were slight shuffle-steps toward modernity but still….not much different.
(OK granted, they’ve gone away somewhat from their penchant for really stupid random-ass shapes: the old Scimitar
http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/scimitar.jpg)

If you’re wondering “well, what the hell is he looking for?” compare the hardware renders of NASCAR racing 2003 comment image?crop=1xw:1.0xh;center,top&resize=980:* ) vs the whole suite of 2019 games https://www.pcgamesn.com/10-best-racing-games-pc – THAT’s a graphical improvement!

More importantly, EVE has a terrible UI, a dull, repetitive PvE model (they’re at least trying some ideas there finally?), aside from pretty skyboxes a non-existent universe, kludgy mechanics, no automation or system support of the player, and results in gameplay more reminiscent of Jutland (or Pirates!) than Star Fleet.

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PanagiotisLial1

Actually its PVE and its PVP is fun, its why there are people playing it. The UI is also good for a game of this kind and logged on and graphs even if you set it to low are decent:

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I usually prefer to run it medium as I run typically 2 clients but this screen was taken for a friend who wanted to see how graphs would look on potato PCs

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Rolan Storm

They misjudged big time. It’s not me whining about closure, it’s about no serious vampire MMORPG on the market. WoD or not – that’s vampires. And with other supernaturals added gradually it could be anything. There are ton of people out there that just waiting for vampire sandbox in modern setting.

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PanagiotisLial1

Yes and keep a mind mediocre vampire mmorpgs were getting a lot of interest in the past – imagine a full fledged mmorpg with AA/AAA quality

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Rolan Storm

IKR? I am WoD… well, “fan” too strong a word… appreciator. But that’s me. There is ton of vampire fans out there. Anne Rice. Blade. Twilight. All of them could find home there. They woould not care much about WoD itself, but rather about dark vampire world feeding on humans night after night after night… What a delight…

Ahem. :D

And imagine other additions. I am guessing hunters would be most logical and easiest to implement. Imagine the irony if hunters would be implemented the same way monster play was implemented in LotRO. :) Werewolves as some kind of alpha class. Others like demons and mages being separate entities that will come into play on certain conditions. Ton of things to add, a monster ecosystem of sorts to develop. Bot neeeeeuuuo…

On a side note we still lack this. Ecosystems I mean. Sandbox where human players are the main game is pretty single-minded. Ah, EQNext… Why art thou abandoneth us… Oh, woe…

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Wilhelm Arcturus

You know I enjoy EVE Online and play regularly, but even as a fan this strikes me as about as grounded as my brother saying he has a “good feeling” about some lottery numbers he picked because his research says they’re due.

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Armsman

Yes, and WORLD OF DARKNESS, DUST514, VALKIRE, and NOVA are going to be HUGE industry successes for them too… oh, wait…

Yep, it’s just the clueless management at CCP calling everything they’re planing a BIG SUCCESS before they then have another ‘soul searching’ panel on how “They’ll keep trying…and that’s why they’re ‘special’ “.

If there’s one thing most evident about CCP as a company – except for their 20 year old MMO (which they even promoted for a decade and tried and failed to add “Walking In Stations” to; yes, they can’t even successfully ADD a new feature to their one successful game) – EVE Online; they are honestly game marketing and development failures — and with their current upper management, that situation will not change.

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Rolan Storm

Like I said in comment to previous article about them “trying until they make it”. No, that’s not them. Not really.

I am not that sceptical about asian market and EVE, but… Nothing beside EVE really works.

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PanagiotisLial1

it could work if they aimed for a sandbox where they have expertise but they took all those silly risks with projects they got little experience on

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Rolan Storm

Yeah, exactly. Also, why all those fascinating decisions?

DUST 514 – PS3 only. Wat? Why? WTH? Okay, I bought PS3 and even had fun in DUST 514.

Valkyrie – only VR. Same questions! I would play! Seriously, I am not interested in Elite and SC is not yet a game. I’d love myself some fighter pilot action, especially PvP. And they release it VR only. Then, after a load of time they decide to make it – at last – accessible for any player. Yeah, thanks… Maybe another time because honestly after hearing everything I did about the game I am no longer interested.

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Arktouros

Sure.

I guess if Asia can send us their garbage games like Bless Online it’s only fair we continue to send Asia our garbage games like EVE Online. Next up, they can get Albion Online next in trade for Astellia.