Guild Wars 2 e-sports team ragequits over design meta, technical issues

    
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Here’s a bit of MMORPG e-sports drama for you: A major Guild Wars 2 e-sports team bailed from competition last night. Competing in the game’s ESL Guild Wars 2 Pro League for a cut of $200,000 in prize cash, a member of team Zero Counterplay apparently abandoned play mid-match, handing the win to its opponents. Member aerodynamique explained his team’s motivations on Reddit, citing multiple problems with Guild Wars 2’s PvP design and technical problems with required anti-cheating software:

You know, I was gonna write an entire post that explained that we had one ragequit and one legitimate D/C due to ESL Wire, and then I realized; It does not matter, because, at this point in the game’s meta, it is just not worth dedicating more than thirty seconds to this game. Everybody can say we’re unprofessional or terrible at Guild Wars 2 all they want, but, the fact of the matter is that if one point getting capped at the start of the game makes us call a GG, and makes one person leave, while another simultaneously d/c’s due to ESL Wire (which already gives us 300+ ping), this game just isn’t worth spending time on.

I apologize that we did bow out so early, but, at this point, it legitimately is just so hard to care about the game in its current state. If you need to, go back and see Game 1 of the series; 3 nodes contested something like 12 minutes into the game, with the score something like 30-0? Look at that, and then look back at me and tell me that we should be expected to sit and mash buttons hopelessly for 15 minutes. In this meta, as soon as somebody gets 1 cap, it’s over. This isn’t just me; so many people I know and talk to that are also in NA Pro Leagues agree. So many of us are relieved now that a four-week break is coming up. For the first time, so many of us, when we come home, settle down, and grab a coffee or soda or whatever, and given free time to play Guild Wars, are simply not logging on, because this game is simply un-fun to play against. It’s boring, unskilled, and… ironically, it has zero counterplay.

Source: Reddit, Team Counterplay, official forums. Thanks, Much Salt.
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Hounddog74 Damonvile spacecampclan I can’t speak much on spvp since I barely do it. But PvE wise, of the 4 new maps, the only one with major issues is TD. VB is great, DS is awesome and AB is pretty good.
The elite specs are largely fun to play in PvE and while people will always complain about things being OP/UP due to the newness, by and large they are actually fine and only need minor tweaks here and there. The only one that at the moment looks like a straight up upgrade is the chrono, but I feel that’s largely because of the movement speed trait more than anything else. I mean alacrity and the wells are nice, but are not a core part of my mesmer build, and the same for all of the chrono traits I currently use. It’s just the movement trait is too hard to resist since we had to deal with being ridiculously slow for so long.

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ValkrudSilz

Serrenity Virfortis You literally agreed to what Virfotis commented at the end f3

Matso
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Matso

Tongle “The irony is that on low skilled PVP you see more build diversity”
This is usualy the case in any pvp game.

Valkyrie Noel
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Valkyrie Noel

Remember when GW1 had fantastic PvP even if Anet couldn’t contain the dragon or reasonably control because it was too complex. Now they can’t understand or control GW2’s pvp which is even more dumb downed. Failure of design.

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scratches16 theKP SallyBowls1 Polyanna Pushing it with baby tourneys isn’t the same as focusing your everything on it. The expansion barely had a whisper for PvP. It’s a PvE game with PvP tacked on. MOBAs are completely different.
$200k is an extremely huge prize for an MMORPG PvP tourney.

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Polyanna ‘…a “$200,000 Prize Pool,” like that isn’t something to be ashamed of.’  

Wait, what?  You actually think 200 GRAND is something bad?  For playing a GAME?  And ANYONE, from punk teenager to retiree, can win?  Dude, in my book, that’s 200k worth of awesome.  

If you are so flush with cash and so strapped for time that you had to pick just one e-sport to play, sure, it would be understandable if ya skipped his one.  But are the vast majority of players actually in that category?  You know they aren’t…

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I’ve been pvping alot lately and I play with the scrubs because I suck. 

The irony is that on low skilled PVP you see more build diversity and people are scoring points left and right. 

I guess I enjoy PVP cause it is fun….

ZenDadaist
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ZenDadaist

Still shaking my head that MMO PvP in a game that is not purely PvP dedicated was picked for PvP and money based eSports. Blizzard can sort of kind of get away with it, no one else can. This is just embarrasing. Leave it to games that are designed for this stuff, not crappy imbalanced metas.

Futabot
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Futabot

Today I learned there’s a popcorn tag.

Valkyriez
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Valkyriez

That’s not true in the slightest. I started playing ranked in GW2 this week and racking up unranked games aswell, and I’ve come across 1 or 2 unkillable players in 30 odd matches. Sure, it’s not a large sample size, but I’ve seen plenty of players playing builds that hard counter the bunker players and melting thier faces off with conditions.