Pantheon attempts to woo the Kickstarter community with its progress

It’s no secret that Pantheon and Kickstarter haven’t had the best of relationships, what with the game’s crowdfunding campaign failing to fund back in the day. But Brad McQuaid is willing to let bygones be bygones and has extended an olive branch to the Kickstarter community this week with an update on Pantheon’s progress.

McQuaid regaled readers with everything that has been done on the game so far, stating in no uncertain terms that something special is being made here. He said that his team of 15 developers has created a “true virtual world” that has been enjoyed by over 100,000 players so far. Finances were also touched upon, with reassurance that fan donations and seed investment have helped to fund the game’s development.

“As we head into pre-alpha testing later this year, followed by alpha and then beta, the community and what they like and are looking for will become more and more involved and have more and more influence on the game’s development process,” he wrote. “While many MMOs are played for weeks, maybe a month, Pantheon is being designed as a virtual home, a sticky game with content crafted to entertain you for months and years!”

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socontrariwise

Hahahaha.
So this was some of the most slow motion combat I’ve seen in a looooong time. Let me understand correctly if I don’t hallucinate: there are lots of mobs, they completely ignore the healer standing and healing, despite him standing in the middle of the whole thing.
And then the healer and that other guy have too little Mana, so they sit down on the floor just where the fighting happens – and are completely safe still. No hit that goes sideways or swing that has an area of target, pure tab-targeting and isolating damage that way in space – and no “this guy sitting there is a good target, let me stop running after that other guy and instead kick this ones … toe”. Really impressive AI.
Seriously?
I was interested and hopeful for Pantheon but that killed it for me.

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Eric Fitch

If they tune it like EQ, healing and sitting will definitely increase your likelihood of drawing aggro. If you watch both of their gameplay vids, you will see examples of the healer being attacked. But good gameplay minimizes this. This means correct taunting and timing of heals/sitting along with heal size. There are area effect abilities but they kinds have to be used to take effect. Not every swing is meant to be an AE.

The slowness of combat is precisely the point. No more blasting your way through mindlessly and no attention to aggro or CC.

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TheDonDude

Healers sitting on the floor during battle reminds me of good ol’ EQ.

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Bobby Hernandez

The videos you seem to have watched and I am glad that your interest peaked enough to take a look is all pre pre alpha content. Pantheon is far from being polished. What you have been able to see is awesome in comparison to any other mmo in its pre pre alpha state. The AI that you mentioned is far from being tweaked in those videos.

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Melissa McDonald

It’s alluded to below, but EQN’s demise has created a window of opportunity for someone to make “the next EverQuest”, which must necessarily bear a new name. In a way it should also replace the aging DDO, because EQ and D&D are so similar. But hey, Brad? You do that? You can have my credit card. I’d very much like an EQ3. But I am also very worried it takes a major studio/publisher team to pull off something worthy of being compared to (or called) EverQuest.
Tesla is a nice startup but they aren’t Maybach :)

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Bobby Hernandez

Everything is coming along Nicely Melissa :) New forums are coming out for testing and a new stream is on the way ! :) VR is small but they are making lots of progress, awesome progress if i might add. Hope to see ya in game ! :)

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AurochsReborn

Pantheon is becoming pretty close to what i’ve been dreaming of! Watch the latest gameplay video with Cohhcarnage. VERY EXCITED!! Pantheon will never be exactly what we all want but its the ONLY MMORPG in the market even aimed at this style of gameplay. Basically Pantheon is all we have – and theyre really delivering so far – so lets support it.

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Cramit

I’m still holding out hope for this one. Honestly, in the mmo space, this and Cu are the only two that I am actively waiting for. Sure there will be others that I will try once I am bored and tired of the games I currently have.

But in terms of games that I am waiting to see release to give a shot, this one and CU are the only two for me. Glad they have kept pushing forward and not sure if I will be able to throw money at it or not. In either case, i will certainly be there for any open beta/alpha’s and throw them some money on release.

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Vaeris

Same here, this and CU.

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Slaasher

Agreed. This and CU. Until then I’m just playing MOBA’s until they come out.
MMO’s have let me down lately. I hope this one will take me back in time as promised.

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silverlock

Somehow I had it in my head that this was a moba. I have no clue what’s supposed to make this one special. Well if they have a free weekend or let MJ do a stream on it I might check it out.

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Armsman

Translation:
Brad McQuaid: “Hey guys, I’m out of weed…”

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Jeff

Thanks but no thanks, I have friends that stood in that parking lot and were fired while Brad got a golden parachute.

Never again.

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Anthony Clark

If I see his name, or John Smedley, I run. I reuse to be in a world of their creation ever again.

They can keep their ‘Vision’.

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camren_rooke

Oh yeah, that DID happen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil_Games_Online

Hrmm…..

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odin valhalla

Indeed (glad someone brought it up). Its precisely for this incident that we as gamers have to hold these “executive producers” to account and not keep funding the bad ones. I understand game studios close, but a lot of these guys milk their teams dry then leave them out in the cold while securing their future.
A part of me genuinely understands this, why wouldn’t you look out for yourself.

However the better part of me keeps chiming in “why support people like this”

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agemyth 😩

I dunno, Vanguard was a great game. Would support again.

camren_rooke
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camren_rooke

Has he ever addressed this?

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Bobby Hernandez

yes he has actually but you will still have people who can never see past their own pride and therefore live a life of not being able to give second chances, sad :( VR has been overly transparent in everything that they are doing because of those past events, years, years ago. People change, some for worse, some for better. I honestly feel Brad has come back with a vengeance and is going to deliver ! Thx VR :)

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Luxxicon

When I watched the livestream of the game I was pretty impressed. I’d throw some money at it…

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Dug From The Earth

That kickstarter campaign is the most non-woooing campaign ive come across in awhile….

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JoeCreoterra

The article has a slight ambiguity/error. The game itself has not been played by 100,000 players (I know the article says “enjoyed”, but that is ambiguous and sounds like the amount of people that have played), it’s actually that over 100,000 people have watched the Twitch stream.

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Wanda Clamshuckr

Yeah, they like to play with numbers here. Check out the last two promotional bits with Trove and their 10 million player claim. I think it’s just a matter of re-posting what the company sends them rather than digging for their own info.

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Greaterdivinity

I want to get behind it, especially with all the work they’ve been doing (which, from what bits I’ve seen looks pretty great!), but…I just still can’t. I’m still too burned on Vanguard (yeah, not letting that one go -_-) and the early drama with this project didn’t instill a ton of confidence.

I’ll continue to hope for the best and keep an eye on the game, and if/when they make it to some form of official launch (soft launch, limited release, full launch etc.) I’ll very likely throw some money at them and give the game a spin then.

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jay

I like literally everything about the game that they are doing, except the combat. I can’t stand that circa 1999 combat. I’m not saying in need a twitchy fast paced wildstar combat, but come on Brad. Times have changed. I understand that you might not like what’s become of the genre, hell I don’t, but there are some good things that have changed since eq1.

GW2 is a perfect hybrid between tab target and action combat, and could easily be done well with less flashy animations and what not. Or hell, even WoW’s combat is better than EQ1’s. Mages having to sit down in the middle of a fight to regen mana? That’s laughable…

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Eric Fitch

GW2 has no real healer class and CC is a joke. These are 2 of the three EQ Holy Trinity if you recall. They aren’t interested in that approach. Some of us who see the mindlessness of modern MMO combat aren’t either.

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jay

That has nothing to do with combat, that’s the systems behind the combat system. They could easily use a combat system like gw2, but at the same time add CC and a dedicated healer class.

I’m just looking beyond the standard click auto attack, watch my character mindlessly swing like a robot combat. I’m all for the holy trinity from EQ. I miss dedicated healers and control classes, but not at the expense of mindless auto-attack combat.

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Chosenxeno .

As long as they know their product is Niche they will be fine. I don’t think they are expecting WoW numbers.

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Devoid4Life .

GW2 combat is bearable, at best imo.

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jay

GW2 combat is fine, it’s the systems behind the combat people struggle with. No holy trinity, no direct targeted heals, no CC type classes, just zergish gameplay. But that’s not the combat, that’s the systems behind the combat.

Picture the GW2 style combat, animations, skills, and skills interacting with other skills (combos) etc. With a holy trinity system (or in this case quartet of tank, heals, dps, cc/debuff), where your healer can target specific players for heals, there’s actual strategy in the game play, etc. But at the same time the combat is interactive. A best of both worlds scenario.

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Paul

God no !! The GW2 combat is horrible imho

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squidgod2000

Wait, it’s not in pre-alpha yet, but 100,000 people have played it already? That seems like a massively inflated number. Maybe 100,000 people have expressed interest in some way, but I’m calling bullshit on 100,000 players.

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jay

Could include the number of people that have played demos at Cons.

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Michael18

he said 100k watched the video. From the KS update:

We recently did a twitch stream showcasing almost 3 hours of gameplay. […] The response has been overwhelmingly positive and while it’s a long video to watch, I highly recommend checking it out — more than 100,000 people already have!

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Oyjord Hansen

The game honestly is looking quite good. Think I’m ready to kick in a few bucks for beta access.

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odin valhalla

Well isnt he a sport letting bygones be bygones LOL. No Brad I havent taken a look since the last “ask” for cash. Best of luck, think I’ll pass this time around but do let us know when you have a working beta (minimally).

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

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Doctor Sweers

Come on Odin…it’s “Fool me once shame on you. Fool me, can’t get fooled again.” It’s an old saying from Tennessee…probably from Texas too.

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Dread Quixadhal

Well, he has a solid chance now that EQ-Next is dead. From what I’ve read, this game (if it succeeds) will be the proper Everquest 3 in everything but name, borrowing some of the good ideas he had in Vanguard (but hopefully without the fail).

To be honest, the game sounds pretty good… and it may not even be the kind of game *I* will like. That’s OK though… we need more games that are group oriented, instead of trying to let every chimp with a gamepad solo everything.

It would be a hilarious twist of fate if the game did phenomenally well, and he bought the rights to the Everquest franchise from Columbus Nova.

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Wanda Clamshuckr

I am going to look harder at it once it launches. Right now..

I’d so love for this to be EQ3. Even Vanguard 2.0 would be fine.

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camren_rooke

Well I never got fooled the first time, and I got this monthly money I was giving to Zenimax just lying around now so…

Awww my gif. dont play. I dun got that Schlag magic. Stupid Internets

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Schlag Sweetleaf

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camren_rooke

Thanks. Weird thing is it WAS giphy. It was even called giphy.gif

Oh but i downloaded it to desktop. Not through the weblink. Hrmmm. Maybe that was it.

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Schlag Sweetleaf

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MesaSage

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MrNastyButler

Don’t know why, but this one always screamed “red flag” to me.

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Armsbend

He should be able to come with $800K on his own. Friends, family, banks, investors. Like everyone else has to. Money for nothing? Lick my taint.

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silverlock

When did taint come back into vogue? It’s like somehow Victorian era pornography has become popular.

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camren_rooke

It’s a good thing I am old and don’t have any kids so I can spend some of this retirement money on mmo kickstarters.

:D

Honestly though, this one has piqued my interest a bit.

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