EverQuest II stops making older expansions free, while EverQuest hands out skeletons

    
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Daybreak has quietly shifted one of the aspects of its free-to-play business model for EverQuest II. In response to a query as to when the studio would be making any previous expansions free as it has done in the past, Daybreak said that it “will not be adding anything further to the F2P lineup.” This means that free players can no longer hold out hoping that they will one day get to enjoy the newer expansions (unless, of course, they pony up for them individually).

While there is a new expansion to anticipate, this particular move doesn’t seem to be in the community’s favor. Massively OP’s MJ recently pontificated on the question of whether or not EverQuest II was in a downward spiral.

Over at EverQuest, things look a little brighter, especially if you’re a subscriber. Daybreak announced that it is handing out free Sarnak skeleton illusions to all members who log into the game between now and October 15th.

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Aaron Weddle

(unless, of course, they pony up for them individually).

u don’t have to pay per expansion you pay for the latest one and get them all

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Louie

I’m pretty sure this means they won’t be adding Kunark Ascending to the F2P lineup when PoP comes out.

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rafterman

Nothing to see here, just Daybreak being Daybreak. Truly a garbage company and it pisses me off that the franchise that was a huge influence on my gaming is being run into the ground by these hacks.

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Aldristavan

So somehow I missed the fact that LOTRO/DDO and Daybreak have been under the same umbrella since, like, December 2016?

Yikes.

Daybreak: Where Games Go to Die™

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Roger Melly

I think LOTRO and DDO are now developed by Standing Stone games and Daybreak is only the publisher . I imagine if Daybreak went under Standing Stone would look for another publisher if Lotro and DDO were still commercially viable .

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Paragon Lost

Yes, it was quite disturbing the first time I went to log into Lotro after not logging in for a while to find myself having to agree to a Terms of Service for Daybreak before I could log in my LotRO character.

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thenotoriousmog

As someone who never played EQ, I can’t understand how a company can keep running their iconic IP into the ground. I mean, we’ve seen it before…but this almost seems like self-sacrifice at this point.

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Greaterdivinity

That thread is literally rehashing F2P vs. P2P arguments from like a decade ago…it’s like a time capsule back to discussions during the early days of the industry move to F2P.

I’d be very curious as to why. Part of me simply thinks that they don’t have a large enough population of free players to make it worth anything to continue doing. Which isn’t terribly surprising given the games age, its initial unfriendly model, and the trajectory of the game.

Damn if that isn’t some coincidental timing given MJ’s column last week, though.

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Ben Stone

Its just a really terrible F2P model, they started out with extreme nickel and diming and it only eased up a little. If you aren’t subscribed don’t bother getting to max level.

And I say this as someone who played a lot of EQ2 and loved the game all the way up to half way through the Thalumbra expansion. SoE/Daybreak were always too greedy with monetisation and eventually drove even their loyal fanbase away.

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oldandgrumpy

You missed out on the joy of having to pay cash to upgrade your ascension spells in the Kunark Ascending expansion then. You could choose not to but if you were a raider then there were some issues completing certain encounters :)

Rumor has it that the new expansion will required cash to upgrade your new 100-110 level spells from base level.

There is an option to research one spell upgrade at a time but it takes anywhere from 20-40 days of real time.

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Castagere Shaikura

So they do this after the latest expansion goes on a 50% off sale. Kind of strange to me. So if you buy the latest you don’t get the ones before it now? And they don’t make it easy for you to check your account to see what expansions you may have if its an old account.

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Ben Stone

I think that the latest expansion still comes with all previous, its just that full free accounts wont get the second most recent content.

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kofteburger

That’s not that bad..

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Crowe

Ok, *if* buying the latest expansion rolls in the previous ones, then I don’t have any issues with that. Devs gotta eat and all that.

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Sorrior

I swear investors KILL games and game studios. So focused on the bottom line and milking one extra cent they fail to realize WHY studios do well or how/why/when a game gets love.

Same for any publicly traded company. Every time I swear they go down the capper faster then welll (que venture brothers line I am scared to quote)

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Ben Stone

To be fair, SoE then Daybreak were always like this. You cant put this on the investors. They are clueless when it comes to monetisation.

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Rheem Octuris

Yes but it certainly got a lot worse when they re-branded, you have to admit.

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Bree Royce

Man, I don’t think that’s fair either. SOE was once a studio that bought things like Vanguard to keep it online. If they’d been purely about making money all along, they’d still be SOE.

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Crowe

I don’t know that that is a good example. Personally, I thought Vanguard was utter garbage so it made sense to me that SOE bought it since it complemented many of their other offerings.

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Bree Royce

My point was they lost money on it to keep it online. When SOE was SOE, its fatal flaw was not being “greedy” enough.

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Utakata

I think they should rename themselves Bottombreak Games, as they are always keeping their bottom line over player interests. Fans of the EQ franchise are free to interpret that “rebrand” in other more colorful ways. ;)

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Alyn

It’s some time since I have posted about Daybreak or the EverQuest Franchise. Maybe the time is nearing that Columbus Nova thinks about selling this franchise. What are the possibilities considering the financial state of the games at this point? Could an investor purchase EQ, then find people willing to remaster or re-develop this grand old mmo? I sort of have my doubts. Certainly, there are still many of us out there that would truly love to see a serious attempt at making a triple A EQ 3.

It’s just so lonely out there…
“…players only love you when their playing…”
Nice remix..what about an mmo remix?

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Melissa McDonald

If a decent 3rd party bought the IP and asked for donations to create the next EverQuest game, I’d donate today.

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Crowe

As long as that 3rd party had complete control over the IP and everything else, then yeah, I’d totally kickstart that. Or whatever the kids are doing these days.

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Melissa McDonald

I genuinely feel anxiety when I contemplate that fact that Daybreak is now the publisher for LOTRO. #HandsOff !!

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Sally Bowls

The truly frightening question is “Who owns SSG?” Could it be DBG or CN?