Star Citizen rolls out the Mercury Star Runner concept ship during Gamescom

    
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Happy Friday. Star Citizen has a new concept ship.

The Mercury Star Runner has an adorable name, a snowspeeder profile, and a fat pricetag: $200 to $530, depending on your payment and insurance options and whether you just buy the ship or bump it up to the Smuggler Pack warbond, which includes some other ships and lifetime insurance. Do note that you won’t be able to check out the ship if you’re not a backer yet, but our tipster helpfully provided screenies, which we’ll tuck down below.

You can also play CIG’s new minigame to pick up a skin for the new ship; just follow the forum clues if you’re so inclined.

Meanwhile, this week’s Around the Verse recaps CIG’s efforts on user interface tools, NPC mission givers, mobiGlas contracts, transit stations and rest stops, VOIP and FOIP transmission, elevators, and instability and resistance calculations.

“As we’re adding more and more locations and Stanton’s getting bigger and bigger, to have to go back and update every single mission every time you add a new location is very time clostly,” CIG’s Will Weissbaum says. “So we’ve been going back and working together to retrofit stuff so it works off a system that can be automatically updated through tagging.”

Source: Official site, Relay, new ship. With huge thanks to DK!
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Kevin McCaughey

The company should be renamed “Ship Sales Industries” because, as far as I can tell, this is nearly the sole purpose of all its activities. Making ships to sell to keep making ships to sell until they get rumbled. Frankly, the fact that most people haven’t seen through this by now is a testament to how easy fooled people are. Darren Brown eat your heart out.

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Joe Blobers

… or they could also be renamed “troll’s magnet” as clearly it seems this project attracked the ones using the largest boondoggle blinders on the planet :)

Ignoring on purposes that ships sale is the fundation of this crowdfunded project, +500 team size and existence of a roadmap that give not only a year ahead of visibility but most important, strong signal they do have now full production pipelines uptodate and running.

Taking your statement: “the fact that most people haven’t seen through this by now is a testament to how easy fooled people are
… never thought at one point that the fact that most people haven’t seen through this by now is because… they understood the concept of game development + scope + time + money?

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Sean Barfoot

You really don’t get it do you Joe? They ran a Kickstarter to fund the game. They ran stretch goals that were funded. In every other Kickstarter they then go away and implement those features with the money they were given. If it turns out that the money requested is not enough for the features they want to implement, then with great shame they return to the backers and confess this

With Star Citizen, after this thing in 2014 you nebulously refer to as “scope change” they basically switched their model from delivering a set of features for a set amount of money, and with a date in mind, and instead moved to a model of delivering an indeterminate set of features, for an indeterminate amount of money, to be delivered at an indeterminate time.

You say you think they’ve spent 75 per cent of those funds. Do you think the game is 75 per cent complete? Or do they need to maintain this rate of sales to deliver the final product? You seem to oscillate on this depending on the article.

I mean, their own actions demonstrate they need this money. They can’t be blind to how badly this plays to anybody but true believers. Remember when they were trying to set themselves up as some sort of antithesis of EA and the big bad publishers. Then they sold tens of thousands of dollars of goods before the game was even in alpha? Haha, how far we’ve come.

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Joe Blobers

Quote: “you nebulously refer to as ‘scope change’ ”

Nothing nebulous for those following the project.

Also I do not oscillate:
– Ships sale will continue till the more traditionnal micro-transactions model is in place,
– They do have a year of cash ahead. And I repeated many times that no CEO on this planet will ever stop cash coming because they have budget to go to release. Being financially healthy is good not evil. Not having to turn to more private investors is also good not bad in case you have to. This is what finance forecast are used for.

Stopping cash flow is a no go as simple as that and their “own actions” as you name them are nothing but doing what they said they will do: keep selling assets until release.
Which is absolutely normal as every patch in 2018 bring more new Backers… They probably should as well stop selling starter packages because it is more funds?

Concept ships are optionnal not mandatory. You can skip all of them.

If you can’t see that CIG is at the opposite of EA it is your problem. EA model is to deliver the minimal possible product and make maximum of profit. CIG is using all funds to deliver this project supported by Backers. Do you see the difference?

Not 1 third for game and 2/3 third for marketing and shareholders.

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Sean Barfoot

Having a year of cash ahead, as you put it, is not financially healthy. That’s the point.

Say the words with me Joe, if people stop buying these concept ships there will be no game. Yet a few weeks ago you’re on here telling me it’s fully funded.

So which is it?Year of cash left and 75 percent of the total money raised has gone. Or the game is fully funded and CR is just being a wise CEO milking the same tiny group of players over and over.

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Joe Blobers

Quote: “… is not financially healthy. That’s the point. ”

Wrong. Developing reliable cash flow gives companies the resources they needs to produce goods and services, pay employees and simply keep the lights on. Maintaining sufficient cash reserves, meanwhile, will help you cover your obligations to your team, your vendors and your customers during slower times… if any.
Most businesses operate smoothly with enough cash on hand to cover three to six months of average operating cash outflows.

Say the words with me Sean: That’s why CIG will keep proposing Ships concept and Starter packages till release.

And the beauty is that it is not even contradictory to being fully funded… because common Finance sense dictate a company does not stop cash flow coming in.

The 75%, either of funding or development completion… depend on what have been done versus what remain to be done till: SQ42 and/or SC Beta.

Again roadmap provide some very good sign of probable Beta by end of 2019… and with constant funding means… will keep providing more or less a year of cash ahead end of 2019.
Because being financially independant toward loan or more private investors is the key of this crowdfunded project since day one.

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Sean Barfoot

Only having enough money to run for a year when the game is more than a year away is not contrary to being fully funded? Absolute nonsense.

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Joe Blobers

Not nonsense Sean. Welcome to entrepreneurship and all its up, down and arbitration.

CR January 2017: “I’m not worried, because even if no money came in, we would have sufficient funds to complete Squadron 42. The revenue from this could in-turn be used for the completion of Star Citizen.

I think he knows a bit more than us when SQ42 will be ready for prime time..
We know many core tech and assets are used by both SQ42 + SC… but not all of them.

Now add variables of the equation: cash + further funding + SQ42 sales…

There is not nonsense. Only the SQ42 roadmap missing for now :)

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Sean Barfoot

Well it’s a contradiction in terms, but whatever. You take far greater solace from a bunch of if’s but’s and maybe’s than most, it seems.

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rePool

Oh yes all wrong Joe. CIG are doing FANTASTIC financially. So much so they have locked citcon behind a paywall now. ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You now have to pay $20 to even WATCH citizencon.

Please continue defending, we’re watching while absolutely laughing our asses off at your continued efforts to defend this scam.

LOLOLOL Citcon behind a paywall but you continue to tell everyone they’re healthy and doing great. We look so forward to your next round of defenses you shrill.

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Joe Blobers

I am pretty sure a new article is going to popup anytime soon about this.. :)

Anyway. I don’t pay Repool because I am a Subscriber. However I see this move as following:

– It is not because they are going in a Financial wall. They know it is going to bring a “drama” and expected cash from selling ditgital tickets will be pretty low ($10.000’s) as most guys following and supporting closely are already either Subscriber or Concierge.
Also it is in middle of the week so even less people are going to see it.

– The event will be on Youtube not long after, probably 24 hours max… right in time for the weekend so all who saw the “drama” on various articles… will rush to see what was behind the digital ticket. Depending about what will be shown during Citizencon + 3.3 patch, more new Backers will join… or wait till the project reach their expectation.

People at large don’t care about drama. They want to see gameplay and have fun solo or with friends

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rePool

Not sure what people want to see and the rest of what you said has to do with it. It’s a paywall for the most transparent development.

Even for you Joe, you can’t defend this move. This is a poor decision plain and simple. Reddit is blowing up, spectrum is blowing up. Even the biggest fanboys are pissed off.

Montoya is even in complete disapproval. So if you can honestly still defend this move, you are delusional. If you can at the very minimum agree that this not only has bad optics, but is a shitty move then I’d be surprised.

The time of the week they’re having it was also a poor decision, the size of the venue is irrelevant, no one asked them to spend backer money on a huge event and when those tickets didn’t sell very well try to get the money back through additional monetization methods that spit on the backers.

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Joe Blobers

I defend what I want Repool and you are the last one I take seriously based on your past low level ranting…for good reasons (1M$ door anyone?). By the way I do not defend CIG but express my point of view.

Want to call it paywall? Fine… are you so eager of SC’s event you can’t wait 24 hours? :)

Content of only Citizecon will make it a wide success or not, I.E. providing information to all Backers and potential new Backers.

This “drama” will bring many articles on Web sites… hence attention. More people will watch event on Youtube than they would had follow on Twich.

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rePool

lol talk about conjecture… no where did they say 24 hours they said “eventually” in the FAQ, go read. Eventually means one day but don’t expect it anytime soon and it will be a heavily edited version of what was shown if previous citcons are of any indication of failures.

Defend what you will then. You’re a pos for continuing to support this scam and still be the lonely 50+ year old nerd on disability hoping for your dream game from a studio that is desperate for money.

Tickets didn’t sell so they have to rip off backers more and you continue doing your shrilling. People are waking up to the scam so much so that they can’t even sell out citcon. An event that was once impossible to get a ticket fast enough. Now they don’t know how to afford the event because no one wants to go hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

you keep mentioning the 1 million dollar door. Do you have proof it isn’t? No? Awesome, so GTFO with your assumptions. You’re going to have a busy week ahead of you. Everyone is already joking about your shrilling everywhere and responding to every comment.

r/starcitizen r/games r/pcgaming all making fun of star citizen. Spectrum making fun of it, twitter making fun of it, but here is joe doing his thing. Lonely Joe with no family and the only thing he has going for him is his second life in space to escape his sad reality.

Defend away sir. We’ll all laugh over here while you continue repeating yourself. When even Montoya, the man himself isn’t on your side here, you’re truly a lone wolf in this lonely world of defending a scam.

This was an awesome night of laughs roflmfao!!!!!!!!!

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Joe Blobers

Repool may be you will learn with time that trolls go nowhere.

They loved to pretend to be the spear head of a crowd… This new “Drama” already start to fade out…. everybody will be able to see all footages… and SC got free wolrdwide coverage. Buzz matter, patch matters. Everything else is noise in the wind of change :)

Comments sections with few old jokes runners won’t make or break such project:
+700.000 Backers and clear roadmap for next 4 quarters. Your spear head is made of foam material:)

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rePool

Now in English please. You rambling idiot.

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Gene Elder

Im going to defend this ship, mostly because the design is crazy good, and for the 225$ price, I was able to CCU upgrade my useless Terrapin (no scanning in the game, and no eta on when there will ever be scanning in the game other than for mining) for 5$ and got a multi crew millennium falcon with a scanning seat, huge cargo bay, 5 computers for data running and smuggling compartments and no struts. Its fast but undergunned, so its going to be mandatory to pack distortion cannons on its turrets to stop fighters and maybe even some data spike missiles.. so it really might also be a good ship for bounty hunting.

BUT. I also watched the gamescon reverse the verse, and when devs get asked about things like gameplay, they make it sound like there will be layers of tech to allow you to do ridiculous things. How much game development time will it take to develop multiple layers of smuggling compartment shielding or one time use “cry-baby” decoy cargo crates? Basically a fan asks if he can do something he saw in a movie, and the devs says yes. This game isn’t going to be release in the next decade, because with each concept sale, they promise more “movie moment” tech than can be coded in a reasonable time. But thats the thing, Chris doesnt want to release, he wants a perpetual development project he can work on forever, and the fanatic fans believe that he will give them these “movie moment” gameplay features “eventually” and are willing to suspend all disbelief, and wait. Even if they have to wait decades to get it.

Do I believe it is a scam? no. I believe Chris wants to work on this game for the rest of his life, and has promised more than he can deliver in a reasonable development cycle, because he has a fanatical fanbase that will give him his unreasonable development cycle in the form of concept sales, while he gives them, in the meantime, dreams of playing out a fantasy from every sci-fi movie and tv show they have ever seen.
Do I believe Chris will give us something playable anytime soon? that depends on what you determine is playable. Right now the flight model is crap and the only game mechanics in place are cargo running and some basic mining. I try, but I can only squeeze about 15 minutes of interest out of a gameplay session. Others might get more or less, and then there are people who claim they get hours of enjoyment out of it. Im skeptical, but there are perverts for every fetish. SC is currently for masochists.

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Joe Blobers

I felt the imperious need to upvote you. Not because I agree that CR can rely undefinitily on concept sales. Patience is a virtue but not a fatality even for the more relaxed backer. Also current roadmap does depict serious upcoming core tech, gameplay and features… but because of yours last words.

My satisfaction will be complete with a little tweak:

“SC is currently for ambitious masochists” :)

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Roger Melly

Selling these concept ships only send out the impression to the wider gaming community that if Star Citizen is ever release that it will be pay to win .

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DoomSayer

The real popcorn moments are watching people complain on this forum that a game company selling virtual items to fund the development of a game that no one is making you buy but boy you sure can complain about like they did.

Last week nearly everyone on here is cheering the doom of Star Citizen because of the Crytek lawsuit and believe Derek Smart like he has been right so many times before about SC. *play broken record*

A game company is trying to create something truly unique of a scale and complexity that has not ever been done before but all you can do is complain like a bunch of whinny armchair game dev know it alls.

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Estranged

The most ambitious project ever! Does that come in the propaganda manual for higher level donors? My $80 doesn’t qualify?

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Sean Barfoot

Well they should get on with it and stop begging for money.

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Kevin McCaughey

Exactly.

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Carebear

Its not even funny anymore…

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April-Rain

I have to agree, it’s a very very sad state of affairs as you know they are just bleeding people of there hard earned cash, I see a lot of sad stories at the end of this.

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Joe Blobers

But did CIG forced anyone to pledge more than 45$? I don’t recall this “drama” despite following this project since several years.

Just to put in perspective what people are doing also with their hard earned cash:

the average Super Bowl ticket costs between $2,500 and $3,000, but that price varies depending on the particular matchup and when the tickets are purchased. Super Bowl XLIX between the Seahawks and the Patriots was an exception to this rule, with tickets averaging $4,314

… Quite a lot of cash for a game consisting of four 15-minute quarters (still the average is 3 hours and 44 minutes)

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Estranged

The Super Bowl is a world holiday. Star Citizen is a niche game title.

Try again.

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Joe Blobers

I try again to explain you what everybody else as understood because there is no need to dodge reality:

Does significant number of people pay hundreds or thousands for a few hours? Answer is Yes.

Niche is not even relevant. This is $ versus hours. Facts.

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Roger Melly

There comes a point if the developers of the game are still taking money from people while knowing there is a good chance they cannot complete the product when it could legally constitute fraudulent behavior .

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Joe Blobers

There comes the “IF” point of Roger who keep shooting with an apparent moving candour the inevitable fraudulent destiny of this project :)

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Roger Melly

“the inevitable fraudulent destiny of this project ”

I never said inevitable :) are you actually starting to have doubts yourself ?

Tell you what Joe if it releases to great acclaim I will still be here and you can say I told you so but I bet if it crashes and burns you will disappear .

At least Gojammit when he realised what was happening was decent enough to come on here a few years later and admit it . Will you have the same integrity I wonder ?

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Joe Blobers

Quote: “I never said inevitable :) are you actually starting to have doubts yourself ? ”

The inevitable was more about the inevitable “IF” from Roger… And if I had doubt (which I never had) it would have been lifted out by current roadmap contents.

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April-Rain

Chris you really need to work on your game rather than trolling websites defending it, if you put half much effort into developing it than you do trolling it, it would have been out years ago!

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Joe Blobers

Redirected to CR’s voicemail message:

If you’re Natalie Portman, call my emergency line. If you are April-Rain, details about upcoming game progress can be found by clicking on the official Star Citizen Roadmap. Thanks for calling

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xpsync

Maybe they should have titled this game;

Star Concept

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Alomar

Omg, stop making/selling new ships until the game comes out and release a game with content that was promised in the Kickstarter…

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MrNastyButler

Oh boy, a new ship. Wow, woo. yippy. Maybe ya a deal guys, how about showing me a game and I’ll consider buying.

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Sean Barfoot

Another great move from CIG. Keep em coming. People love expensive pre order stuff years before launch. Makes your game very popular outside of its weird bubble.

Definitely a game that is fully funded as per the kickstarter and isn’t in desperate need of funds.

I was pretty excited when this was first announced. I remember the initial videos looked incredible. But I’m struggling to think what would even be very special or unique about it if it released now.

I mean there are space games that are far far bigger in terms of the size of the universe, hence much more suited to things like exploration. Games that offer planetary landings. Games that offer FPS gameplay. Games that offer better crafting and player run economies. So what are we left with these days? Some nice high res textures?

I think they’ve well and truly missed the point when people were hungry for more space sims and the market wasn’t catering for that.

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styopa

“People love expensive pre order stuff years before launch. ”
Begged question: implies launch will actually happen.

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Armsbend

I like your avatar.

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Sean Barfoot

Haha, you too. Though I miss Audrey a little.

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deekay_000

funny thing is i’ve been thinking of audrey all week.

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Tee Parsley

Funny thing about those initial videos: iirc, Roberts and crew talked about how they put those together, examples of their design work, etc. And of course, it turned out that they were all done by Crytek.

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Joe Blobers

Quote: “they were all done by Crytek”

Your information is not correct. Beside part of the trailer in 2012 for Kickstarter, Crytek did nothing special beside selling a licence to CIG.

In fact CIG did modified so much Cry Engine they named it Space Engine during a time. Also major engine improvement have been done by CIG employees… which were ex-employees from Crytek.
They joined SC project because Crytek stopped… to pay their wages and was heading to bankrupt. To survive Crytek had to sold Cry Engine to Amazon for 70M$.

Something Amazon called Lumberyard, which is the current game engine CIG is developping SQ42 and SC.

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cmdr_cotic

He said “initial videos” so he is quite correct.

They didn’t call it Space Engine, they called it Star Engine, which could turn out to be an issue within the ongoing court case.

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Joe Blobers

Fine enough as long initial videos means strictly limited to the Kickstarter Demo. Still my points about Crytek are correct. They did little to nothing to make this project a success.

Star Engine and not Space, correct. Won’t have any impact on current court case has it was not mention. Knowing Crytek lawyer they would had jump on it already :)

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deekay_000

so i continued my science with rovers and 600is/connies which may have to end now that i’ve melted my aquila (with bonus rover) for one of these motherfucking star runner deals.

basically if you spawn two vehicles it’s fine until you touch one then it despawns the other. the solution ofc is to have someone drive your rover for you. which ofc you can’t always count on that and the fact that one should be able to fully do this particular thing on your own as it’s utterly absurd mechanic in teh context of the rest of this game lol

also got on video a good demo of the landing padd permissions issues people have been complainnig about in my irc channel

and finally some good ol blast em up to some phat beats–

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note: the “solution ofc” is in theory as i have not managed to sync up with my science partner to test this. but the theory seems sound :D

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a little more about the combat vid:

i am flying solo – no gunner positions (which needs more first hand testing but the 600i has one of the best forward turret positions amongst turreted ships – outside of the hammerhead which isn’t flyable yet)
the “pvp” is a damaged manned hornet that appears to be afk. it gave me heavy crim stat
i start with 1 crim stat which causes the interdiction to occur.
it’s not easy to see because of my webcam embed but something is firing at me or at the platforms while i am attempting to land which is why i leave.
the buccaneer is what spawns as a sort of bounty hunter with higher crim stat. it will follow you around until you kill it or reduce crim stat.

in real pvp i’d likely be fucked even against less BiS’ed out oppponents like those in the blockade video some weeks back.