The Daily Grind: Have you ever regretted not playing MMORPGs?

    
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A few weeks back there was a post on the MMORPG subreddit from a dude who said he actually regretted not playing MMOs more. Specifically, /u/againstperfection said he’d quit MMOs in high school and spent those years working on his real life instead. But now, even as a successful adult, he feels regret because he actually loved his experience and identity as an MMO gamer and has considered picking it back up. There’s a lot to unpack in the discussion, but his sentence “at times like these I truly feel like I’ve gained the world but lost my soul” sums it up.

I’ve never quit gaming for years at a time, so I don’t have regrets exactly like that one. But I do have “he chose… poorly” types of regrets when it comes to MMOs; for example, I’m a little bit envious of people who chose Final Fantasy XIV to be their home game all those many years ago. I definitely chose the wrong core MMOs when it comes to avoiding things that sunset. If you were all-in on XIV, against the odds, then you’re a hardened veteran of one of the best MMORPGs in the business.

Have you ever regretted not playing MMORPGs or not playing MMOs more?

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Mewmew

It depends on the game, but I like to experience lots of different stories and lore in MMORPGs. MMORPGs aren’t forever, we can’t just fire any of them up anytime and get to experience them. They shut down and are gone and no longer there to play and experience. It’s like if a great TV series or movie series was no longer available to see anymore at all. That experience is gone and you no longer can have it.

Even if you do get to jump on an emulated version, that normally is not the same setup as the MMORPG was and so it’s a changed experience. A great many mobile games have shut down and are gone forever simply because they had online connectivity that the owners don’t want to keep up. There is no coming back for most of them, there is no museum status in their future, they’re just gone and gone forever.

For a medium like this that many of us use instead of watching TV or movies and instead of reading books, for it to be able to just be gone and no longer there to experience is sort of messed up honestly. Yes they are a service, just as the books and TV shows were made to make money, but other mediums are still there in some form forever for people who want to go experience what they have to offer. Many online games are forever shut down and gone (as said especially on mobile, and believe it or not there were a lot of cool stories in many of these mobile games that went away).

I don’t have a lot of time to play so I have to pick my games carefully. I normally will pick games to experience their story over their gameplay because of that. I always have mostly story heavy games in my rotation, and once and a while will go to something that’s just mostly pure skill play and lacks story.

There are MMORPGs and many mobile games that are gone already with no way to emulate or get to experience them. Not to mention that they were meant to be massively shared experiences but also played from home, so even if some do end up in MMORPG museums it won’t be quite the same thing (not to be a broken record, but again a lot won’t end up there anyway and are truly gone).

There are many cool stories I didn’t get to experience inside of Wildstar, and now I never will because it isn’t there anymore. What was Tabula Rasa like? I hear good things, but I’ll never experience it. The list goes on and on, and if I searched through old cool mobile titles that won’t ever return it would really get long.

Play them while they’re here to experience, even if the game is “old”. They’re sadly not a permanent medium we’ll get to always look up and take part in their stories like many old time entertainment mediums were.

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Maggie May

Thats the reason I went back to Lotro. Now I’m in Rohan (I have quit and gone back twice over 8 years). Dang but there are a zillion quests to get through … I am doing my best to not get burned out this time.

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Anstalt

Regret, no.

I definitely wished I’d played more of them during the earlier years of the genre and I think I’d have had a great time in DAoC and FFXI. But, I was in my late teens during that period of time so I was simply having more fun drinking, smoking, chasing girls, skateboarding and biking than I was playing games. So, I missed out, but I don’t regret it because life was so much fun!

I would also like to be playing more MMOs now and over the last 6 years. I quit SWTOR in feb 2013 and haven’t found a good MMO ever since. I hate the direction the genre has taken, I really hate action combat, so no MMO has met my criteria for years. I’ve been having plenty of fun in single player games but I do really miss the social side. As a former raid and guild leader, the social side used to be amazing and I made some great friends through gaming.

Also, when i quit SWTOR I did say to myself that I was going to focus on real life more but that never really materialised! More free time just gave me time to realise how pointless most jobs are and just how clueless most bosses are! Being a raid leader had given me the confidence to stand up and be counted and to take a leadership role, but that isn’t valued in most businesses becauses bosses see you as a threat to their position.

But, still no regrets, because no MMO has been good enough for me so if I was playing them still, I’d probably regret that. So, I’ll just continue beta testing and hope something good is eventually released.

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Rolan Storm

HA! A ton. :D

Never played Ultima Online. Missed almost fully Everquest. Same with Asheron’s Call – I just did not get into it, I even had an account and played. See – never bothered to delve into the game for real. A “friend” of mine told me about issues Anarchy Online had at launch – never bought it (my that was stupid – listening to anyone about MMORPG choice). Did not play enough SWG because it was too grindy (maybe find a group in a MMORPG – duh?!). Bought Matrix Online and missed all the story content that was launching anyway with all the crazy and beyond the imaginable guild play and RP hoopla – “because real life”.

Ah! Final Fantasy XIV 1.0 – bought, played a bit and stopped.

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SWG:L uses a 2.5 bonus on all xp, at first i thought that was going to be a little excessive, turns out i now think it’s the perfect balance, feels right.

The main legacy quest line alone will take you to 65’ish, then there are a plethora of little quest lines to uncover and explore, and og game content is still there too run missions.

Should do Avenging Mort around 30, i wish i did it much earlier, Mort is in Dearic on Talus, go to the cantina and buy the man a drink.

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Rolan Storm

Thanks for info, man. But Legends is NGE, right? Not my cup of tea. I was on Awakeing and Basilisk both, chose Basilisk (with only slightly more lean towards). They will wipe on 1st of April (and they told repeateadly it is not joke :D), we’ll see after that.

Thing is we cannot experience these games again. It was momentum, people, us back then. Not anymore. The only right thing to do is play now what we want. Besides, for every game I missed there is a game I played just in the right moment. ;)

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Yep when i lunched Basilisk that was the nostalgia moment for me, the game i played. Yep Legends is pretty much how the game was when it shutdown, i never played the NGE, enjoying it much more than i thought i would. Now making friends and all that so that’s making it harder to leave ofc, and the fact that there isn’t any jtl, but not saying i won’t be there on the 1st. :) thx for the heads up.

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Rolan Storm

YW.

Thing about Basilisk is – they work. They are working and working and working and getting things done. First time I logged mission terminals in Coronet sent me to the sea. I encountered seven imperial colonels on Tatooine just standing there. I logged out.

Last time I logged in it was pretty much the game I remember, also making my nVidia card shape graphics a bit worked into something that was in all respects good (there is guide for that: https://bit.ly/2TW56RN). Fewer people, but all of them diehard fans and they don’t hesitate to help out. I respect the idea Awakening took – they added content from past-NGE period and it led to some fun adventures – but Basilisk’s Force Village Jedi system is much more close to home than their mysterious system of promoting to Jedi.

As for JTL… Like I said – when I first logged into Basilisk it was a mess. Now it is working 13.1 SWG server. They will get JTL working too, just you wait.

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ofc i logged in last night and yea i saw the load splash logo for jtl.

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Rolan Storm

Well, it might be because we use full client including JTL to play. But I am telling you, man. There were no Jedi back in the day, nor proper Creature Handler neither Bio-engineer. Now everything there.

If you are imperial or going to become one go to Naboo, Theed. There are autobuff doctors in cantina. Musicians and dancers also there.

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Peregrine Falcon

I’ve always regretted not playing SWG.

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Zora

Hmm from a pure missing out perspective I do, the stories that are lost when a game sunsets. But in terms of games being simply the frame around which you build social ties and a virtual world to call home, I never do… the adventures and people I met in one are an absolute value that cannot be superimposed, the “wheres” are insignificant to me.

I wish I would have delved more in FFXIV or SWTOR when they were young for sure and I regret not playing -more- wildstar but there’s only these many hours in a day and most of the missed adventures I dream of would have involved the people I was already playing with in other games, so…

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Oleg Chebeneev

Considering how addicted I was to WoW, not really regretting anything. But I think it would be cool to experience the feeling of playing Everquest 1, SWG and EVE Online in their early days.

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Fenrir Wolf

I’ve missed them. Regretted, though? I can’t say that I have. Life is very short, and it’s important to stick with things that are meaningful to you. If something doesn’t have enough meaning to be worth your time, then it’s best just to move on.

I wonder if the aspect of regret comes from having missed out on some exclusive item or some such? That isn’t something that’s really ever had a hold on me. I know my partner has regretted that once or twice, but it’s really not worth obsessing over. It’s a form of entertainment, after all.

If you can’t enjoy it at any time, it isn’t doing its job right.

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I suppose it’s different for me than it is for most, though, as I can’t just hop on as a human character and start enjoying myself. If I’m playing an online game, I need to be represented as a non-human character. I’ll accept anything so long as it isn’t yet another humanbut (a race that’s 95 per cent human with some minor traits changed). Usually, humanbuts are the only ones that get a look in, as our own species is quite obsessed with itself.

I have an overpowering degree of bodily dysphoria as an autistic person who’s been cast aside and poorly treated by so much of my species. And, as I’ve mentioned before, with places like the Judge Rotenberg Center still open, I wouldn’t feel right playing any online game where I’m represented by a human.

For the most part, I just don’t like humans very much. I much prefer the company of my dog, who’s always been a good lad. I mean, heavy sigh here though, I can hear the implications even now. Maybe Massively is better than that?

Ace, for the record. Though furry kinkiness does amuse me.

I guess what I’m getting at is that if you’re okay being represented by a human, there are many more titles you might regret having passed you by. But since the range of games available to me is so limited, there’s not a lot to miss.

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Tobasco da Gama

I kind of regret not playing SWG while it was a thing. I know I could hop on an emulator now, but it’s really not the same as playing a live game at its peak.

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I agree there is a difference, but tbh this is better in many ways.

Hardly any drama queens playing, could say more quality players than quantity of players. Drama yes there still is some but 99% of the peeps you meet are decent.

The one diff is the market, i get whatever i want (usually) if not someone can make it from the guild and is priced reasonably, buffs in tat are free; buff and go it’s freaking awesome, no 20 minute plus medical lines up like before. Tac drops usually find a player or two in Naboo or Tat again, and again free!

Glad you brought that up as i never thought about it but yea i’d take this over back then any day.

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Tobasco da Gama

That’s a good point, certainly there can be benefits to skipping a live game and starting on an emulator. :)

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I was very reluctant to bother with an emulator of any kind, but Legends has completely changed my viewpoint.

I already posted this in more detail elsewhere here; but nutshell, you’d think nothing would be going on, but it’s been non stop since i started playing.

Ewok festival with the hate raid, new content, last weekend i attended what i am sure is the biggest event i’ve ever participated in any mmo, A Droid invasion, there were just so many people there.

I rarely use the insta travel x wing, oh and shuttles you don’t have to wait an hour for anymore either but again don’t really use those either, once i’m on planet i swoop (time getting tight they become very nice options).

Anyway, i’m coming in from Mos Espa heading for Jabba’s palace, i enjoy the journey so not really paying attention to compass, i’m kinda using sense of direction enjoying the scenery, anyway i’m off a bit and almost end up in Beggar’s Canyon, not bad i can see the silhouette of the palace and head in.

Since i normally come in from wayfar direction i end up in behind the palace, and there is a little shuttle getting refueled i know cause talking to the guy that works there freaked out me, ok cool backdrop stuff, but for some reason (my exploring nature) i walked into the tiny building there, a freaking Starship Terminal!!! out of nowhere, the game is full of little treats like that. I so wish i knew that was there when i was doing the jabba theme park. Next toon!

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Robert Mann

Not really. I might have enjoyed some of them… but I also enjoyed the other things I did at those times instead.