Marvel Heroics: My Marvel Heroes wish list

If there’s one constant in the gaming universe, it’s that every MMO player has a wish list. It’s almost impossible to spend any length of time in a title without thinking of what you would love to see added or improved or changed. When you see others echoing those desires, it can be both comforting (you’re not alone!) and maddening (why won’t the studio listen?).

In many respects, I think that Marvel Heroes is a terrific and highly accessible game. I wouldn’t change a thing about its business model, for example, nor how the devs continually add new characters and costumes. But I can’t help but note some of the weaker parts of the game and crave some features that simply aren’t there.

So today I’m going to get it all out of my system and give you my six-point wish list. Let me know your own wish list in the comments!

1. Housing

It’s unnerving to me that there’s a big hole in Marvel Heroes when it comes to housing, whether it be the individual or guild variety. After all, superheroes are often portrayed in the comics as having a lair or base of operations, yet the playerbase are basically nomads, mooching off of iconic hubs while never having a place to call home.

Yes, I would love to see housing of a sort come to the game, preferrably through an expandable base system that would allow you to cosmetically decorate while also adding practical features (S.T.A.S.H., crafting, etc.). Giving supergroups a place to hang out together and even engage in limited PvP or raucous parties would be excellent. I think it’d be pretty awesome if supergroup bases would be the target of the occasional dynamic event where villains attempt to invade and the heroes have to fight back.

Unfortunately, it seems as if Gazillion isn’t that interested in making player housing happen, so pthhbbt on that notion.

2. Better customization

I’ve been asked to make comparisons between the beloved City of Heroes and this title, and while there are a few points of commonalities (such as the light show of combat), the truth is that both titles represent different parts of the superhero MMO spectrum. One area in which Marvel Heroes couldn’t be any further away from City of Heroes is with its conspicuous lack of a deep, rich character customization system.

And while I would never expect Marvel Heroes to suddenly let you create a hero from the ground-up (this isn’t that type of game), I sincerely wouldn’t mind if there were some effort made to provide more customization than there is at the present. Costume swapping and equipping the odd artifact to provide auras are nice, but we still exist in a sea of clones without much opportunity to express player creativity in character design. Creating costumes that have dye patches, adjustable logos, or even being able to break up costume pieces to mix-and-match would be welcome.

3. Supergroup improvements

Now that I’ve both been in and run a supergroup (Massively Underpowered — shoot Sypster a tell for an invite!), I can say with certainty that Marvel Heroes is sadly lacking in its guild tools. You can create one, structure ranks, invite others, write a message of the day, and… well, that’s about it. There are no in-game calendars, no supergroup halls, no supergroup logos/capes, and no tools to make the organization and running of supergroup activities easier.

While we’re on the topic, it would be just smashing if Marvel Heroes would allow us to join multiple supergroups. Since you’re limited to being part of only one per account, that really hurt when you have friends in separate SGs both requesting your presence. Would it hurt to be part of both?

4. Craftable uniques/artifacts

I feel that crafting in this game is not quite what it could and perhaps should be. My bank is chock-full of crafting mats that are going unused because I have to pull them out for only a few projects per character.

Considering how screwed we can get by the RNG at times, why not open the door to collecting recipes to craft artifacts and uniques? I’m always for multiple paths to the same goals, and while I appreciate that Marvel Heroes has added some uniques as rewards for achievements, some “must have” items are still far too difficult to obtain, particularly when you’re trying to gear up multiple characters. I’d love to be able to occasionally be able to take a good chunk of my crafting mats and turn them into an item I can actually use.

5. More female characters

Not every player wants to play male characters, but as in the comic book industry, there are more guy characters in Marvel Heroes than girls. According to one thread, even with gender-swapping costumes, there is only one playable female hero in the game to every two male heroes. That doesn’t sit right with me, and it shouldn’t with Gaz.

I know we have more female characters incoming, which is great, but the studio should make a concerted effort to getting that ratio balanced. Adding in even more gender-bending costumes (which I totally love, by the way) is a great way to do this, and it’s even in keeping with the spirit of the comics since many characters have had an opposite-sex counterpart.

6. Revamp the gear system

While veteran players might be completely used to the layer cake design of Marvel Heroes’ gear, if you take an objective step back, then it’s hard to deny that it’s more than a little convoluted and difficult to understand. There’s just too much stuff with too many types of modifications, requiring too much work and many types of resources to properly gear a new hero. Considering that Marvel Heroes is built around wanting players to continually acquire and level an ever-growing roster of heroes, I think it’s disadvantageous to keep adding on to a gear system that’s already teetering from over-tinkering.

While I don’t want to see the game streamlined down to Fisher-Price land, I would be for be all for a revamp pass so that it is easy to grok for the newcomer while still providing depth to the experienced player.

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dorn2
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SounderSays 
No. You have to understand the people who play the ARPG are bigger Marvel fans than that.  Ant-Man in particular has a really bad rep for being a wife beater. 

I don’t even like Wasp either.  I can understand that she’s far more popular than Ant-Man though.  Marvel had to know the movie was a dud too.  Gaz was just throwing away free money releasing him.
Not everyone is a douche who will only argue for heroes they like.  I really don’t want War Machine but I’d never call Gaz dumb for releasing him.

HeroeSilenciado
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HeroeSilenciado

MorpayneRADIO I don’t need to Google a subject that’s tainted all the way with sexism and inequality. What’s really disturbing is that to this day, in 2015, people still think that inequality (of any race, gender, nationality) is in any way correct. I’ve read enough of your comments to know that you are either a fail-troll or a very sexist/racist person. 
See, the problem right there is that “traditionally male oriented” is what’s wrong and has to be remedied. It is not ridiculous to want that. That’s what equality is all about. And by changing that “traditionally male oriented” perspective in the game maybe they can start to do it in the comics as well. Being male oriented is one of the bigger problems in the comics industry and generally speaking in the whole entertainment industry. In 2015, it is completely unacceptable. Women are people too. They are not objects (as per usual in their portrayal in the entertainment industry). 

I don’t want a girl or a boy on my team in a combat situation. I’m not sure why anyone would either. Adult “girls” are called women. Do that and you’ll take your first step into equality and into the 21st century.

Tithian
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Tithian

1. The problem with housing is that as a part of a team, you have an already established base of operations. Avengers Tower, Xavier’s school etc. are our bases.

2. Never going to happen, due to people creating cannon-breaking abominations like pink Dooms. This is coming leterally never, ever.

3. Fair point.

4. Considering Uniques/Artifacts are iconic items from those specific bosses, I don’t see how that could be incorporated without breaking cannon. Also, the whole idea for aRPGs is to grind stuff, so having shortcuts with crafting is against the whole concept.

5. More female charatcers would be nice, but they cannot break Marvel cannon, and sadly in the comics the majority of the heroes is male. So having equal numbers here is probably not happening any time soon.

6. I agree that some parts are convuluted (i.e. differing crit rates for ranged, area, damage types) but I mostly like the depth. Diablo 3 is a good example on how an aRPG can be made extremely shallow by dumbing down stats, so I’d rather they not touch the winning formula.

vulpisfoxfire
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vulpisfoxfire

orionite It’s great in games that have you collecting/crafting things to decorate it with (particularly amenities like mail/crafting stations/vendors/storage so you don’t have to walking to the town location for them), similar to the ‘dress-up’ features that have caused several games to have Appearance slots that override the actual look of the armor pieces you have.
But in a game like MH, where the characters are very intentionally limited in the differences in appearance, it’s…kinda pointless and doesn’t fit into the game at *all*. You’re *not* creating your own character in this game, and you’re not creating your own bases either.

orionite
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orionite

I keep seeing housing as a must have feature in these articles. Am I just not getting it? In my years of MMO play I have never craved housing ad even if I had a house given to me, I hardly spent time there, let alone time or money decorating it. 

Someone tell me what the draw is. I  mean, I get it. For some it’s a nice diversion from the usual kill kill loot, but as a must have, high priority feature?

vulpisfoxfire
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vulpisfoxfire

Koshelkin deekay_zero Enikuo Keep in mind, she’s beaten Doom and others…and is reportedly looking to go for Galactus… :-)

SounderSays
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SounderSays

Your suggestion to cash in on Ant-Man is to release a hero that was in the movie for all of 30 seconds? Not the main character? You know, the guy who’s name is in the title? Same goes for Winter Soldier…
Essentially, your argument boils down to, “They aren’t releasing the heroes that I want.” That’s fine, but don’t try to couch it in logic that doesn’t follow.

dorn2
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dorn2

SounderSays 
That has nothing to do with it. Why do they have to release Winter Soldier to cash in on the movie?  New costumes, Nick Fury, Shield content, etc etc.  There were lots of better options.  The same is true of Vision.

Ant Man was a bad move too.  Wasp is more popular among players and could of easily cashed in on the movie.

jaif
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jaif

While there are many female heroes and skins that would be cool, I can’t abide a compulsive need to balance the scales. I’d like to see popular ones brought out without regard to a mindless quota.

Mind Flayer
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Mind Flayer

deekay_zero Enikuo Koshelkin 
*small correction*
Squirrel Girl is great as long as you IGNORE her current ongoing series.
What they’ve done to her should be illegal…

Mind Flayer
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Mind Flayer

A Good and Accurate Doom 2099 costume. (The one from the early part of the Series with the chrome armor, blue cape and spiked shoulders).
That’s all I need to make me happy.

MagmaFist
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MagmaFist

1. More exploration. 
2. More aura artifacts. Put them in the store even.
3. Crafting that makes sense. i.e. Why is it I keep running out of the needed mats to make a costume core and my 4 offensive stats, yet I have 3 crafting gear STASH that are FULL. ???
4. More options to spend credits or give us an option to pump up our Omega points by ‘turning off’ credit earning(just something small like an extra 5% of points) when we reach the max of 3 million.
5. Make travel powers a maximum of 5 points so each level has a meaningful and noticeable effect. (might be an issue since some do damage).
6. Some color options for power effects. I know you can’t go too far on this due to the theme of the character.
7. Alternate animations, both as drops or purchasable in the store. This would also open up items like different travel power animations. Two examples from reading the MH forums that I agree with such as the first design of the Thing’s Fantasticar and why Hawkeye’s skycycle was not used as his travel power.

MorpayneRADIO
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MorpayneRADIO

I won’t take the subject further, but do some Google on the subject and you’ll see what I mean by not wanting a girl on your team in combat situations. It’s eye opening and extremely disturbing.
But anyways ya, I just don’t buy into this whole women HAVE to be included in everything that’s traditionally male oriented like comic book heroism or roster representation. The author implies he wants to see 1:1 male to female heroes in MU and it’s just ridiculous.

SounderSays
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SounderSays

Gaz would be silly not to cash in on the MCU movie hype.

SounderSays
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SounderSays

I guess my wish list would be very different. Super groups definitely could use some attention. I’d also like to be able to buy costumes with Eternity Splinters, but that might not be financially sound for Gaz.

HeroeSilenciado
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HeroeSilenciado

MorpayneRADIO How and why in the world would the soldiers get killed in the name of equality? LOL 
Not sure why people like you still exist. Your kind of thinking is bound to keep us in the dark ages for all eternity.

Bitrip
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Bitrip

thickenergy To be fair, the difficulty largely depends on who you’re using. A faceroll (see Scarlet Witch) is going to have a significantly easier time than someone low-tier like Loki.

thickenergy
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thickenergy

There is a lot I like about Marvel Heroes. Ultimately though none of it matters as the game is simply too easy. I can’t speak to the biggest, baddest boss fights but the bulk of the game play that I experienced held very little in the way of challenge or difficulty.

Superbrak
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Superbrak

Not saying its a good or bad thing, but a lot of this wish list seems like a lot of MMO tropes being thrown at a game that’s really more ARPG than MMO. I’d rather Gaz continue to build on their ARPG strengths (combat, loot and character roster) than work on adding MMOish style housing, crafting and customization that doesn’t jive with what the game’s style.

Enikuo
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Enikuo

deekay_zero Koshelkin Enikuo I had looked her up and read about how she was introduced, so I knew that she was more of a background / side character. It also helped me appreciate some of her jokes, like when she asks Iron Man about joining the Avengers. But, I had no idea she was considered so powerful! That’s pretty funny.
It’s too bad about the costumes, but I understand. I know there are other heroes that have even fewer options than Squirrel Girl. The heart still wants what the heart wants though.

dorn2
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dorn2

The devs have stated that gender swap female->male costumes don’t sell well.  So even the player base prefers females.  The problem is MU is old.  Most of the iconic popular heroes are male. Another problem is the cinematic universe is wasting developer time.  Heroes like Winter Soldier, Ant Man, Vision, etc etc were released instead of more popular female heroines.

Koshelkin
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Koshelkin

deekay_zero Enikuo Squirrel Girl is the singular most powerful character in the Marvel Universe?

Now I want to see a Green Lantern x Squirrel Girl crossover movie.

Koshelkin
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Koshelkin

My number one suggestion: improve the loot system. Enemies drop tons over tons of … completely, absolutely useless, neglectable, undesirable stuff no one wants…. It’s hard for me to look forward to an upgrade in Marvel Heroes when I have to sift through literally dozens, maybe hundreds of items to push my stats for a few couple of points. Also the skill addition to gear, while nice… remove or streamline it, it’s a major source of confusion to me and makes it tougher to compare items. 

The loot system in Marvel Heroes… just stinks and needs alot of work, imo. It turns the loot grind(in an ARPG!) from appealing to appalling.

DamnDirtyApe
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DamnDirtyApe

Armsbend SirUrza There is a lot of trading in MH.  There are dozens of people in my supergroup who trade constantly and gear all of their heroes by buying low and selling high.  There is a whole official forum devoted to item trading that is very active.  There is a trade channel in the game.  I’m not sure why you think there is no trading.

agemyth
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agemyth

BalsBigBrother agemyth Sadly, xpadder solutions almost never feel as good as I hope they would. Clearly it works for some people though.

BalsBigBrother
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BalsBigBrother

1. While a nice option to have Marvel Heroes has more pressing issue to devote its resources to.
2. Never going to happen.  From a gaming perspective it would seem a simple thing to add but it is not an issue of Gazillion not technically being able to do this but that Marvel won’t allow it under the licensing agreements they issue these days.
As it is all the heroes and costumes that Gazillion do put out have to go through an audit / approval process via Marvel.  If they do not match closely enough to Marvels ideals then they don’t get approval and its as simple as that.  Even if its just a simple colour change it would still need approval and will probably not get it due to being away from the source materials /sigh
3. Yes more supergroup option would be great to have but again I expect its a matter of resources to do things.
4. Nope.  Gear grinding is at the core of arpgs and short cutting that is cutting out the core gameplay.  That said I would not be against a slight easing of the RNJesus for some of them even if it was only a few percent.  At the end of the day and as you have mentioned they already have a few options to get some things either via random drops or through the achievement system.
5. Not an issue for me one way or the other.  I like the heroes they release and them being male or female doesn’t play into the equation as long as I have fun playing them.
6.  Again its a core of the game and it doesn’t bother me personally.  
Some of the actual gear for some older heroes has been revised recently (and its an ongoing process) so that every piece you can get is a viable one way or the other stat wise for all the content which is not always the case at the moment.  They are adding option to colour code the stats on the gear so that you can easily tell how good the rolls are at a glance (in addition to pressing the ALT to show min/max rolls that they already have)

As for the actual system such as omegas and so on rather than streamlining ( or removing them) I would prefer Gazillion to explain the systems better in game rather than having it all spread over the forums.  That way people (old/new) will have a better idea of what everything does. That would go a long way to making people more aware of what they can aim for and make better use of their time.

BalsBigBrother
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BalsBigBrother

agemyth You will probably seen this on the forums but if you want to use a contorller take a look at this thread on the offical forums:  http://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/131071/bicas-controller-support

Its takes a little getting used to but once you do its works quite well.  Controller support is afaik not due till 2016 so it may be a little while for the official built-in options.

Bannex19
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Bannex19

@Morepayne ya lost me on your third sentence.
I agree though, not everything has to be made so it represents everybody all the time.
But in this case it’s comics not whatever weird shit you’re talking about.

Gendou
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Gendou

MorpayneRADIO: That’s why we need Miles, America and Kamala!

Kaloth
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Kaloth

I’d like to see player-designed missions, similar to what CoH, STO and more have.
Sure, this is really just a diablo clone at its core, but it would give players much more stuff to do in what is currently a rather mediocre end-game.

Mikey Moo
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Mikey Moo

all good suggestions.

Enikuo
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Enikuo

1. More Squirrel Girl costumes – I’d like at least half as many as Iron Man. I’d be happy with even a 4th of that guy’s wardrobe.
2. The ability to kill Elektro without camping him since the story merge.
3. An option to turn off warnings about my video card driver being out of date b/c the game detects the wrong one.
4. Account bound pets
5. An inventory henchman to organize all my stuff for me. Like a Pepper Pot team up.
6. Even more Squirrel Girl costumes, because if it worked one time why not push it? Right?

Enikuo
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Enikuo

MorpayneRADIO  Team “humanity” is half female. That’s why people push it – they either are “girls,” are related to girls, know girls, or all three. And, comic book accuracy can be damned when it’s steeped in “isms.” Exclusion isn’t a legacy worth protecting.

woolydub
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I really want to see all the movement skills get streamlined for heroes lacking in that dept. I know they are doing event upgrades as well and that’s exciting. Hopefully some more achievement costumes are in the works too. The Fantastic Four quest line where you have to beat Doom as the Fantastic Four was a nice addition. I’d like to see more of that type of thing as well.

Damonvile
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Damonvile

MorpayneRADIO In a made up universe that breaks all known laws of physics, a little equality is only going to hurt people who can’t leave the stone age behind. So many people want to include girls in everything because they’re not afraid of what equality means.

MorpayneRADIO
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MorpayneRADIO

Diversity only goes as far as African Americans and women. We still got MILES to go before Hispanics, and even further for middle easterners.

MorpayneRADIO
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MorpayneRADIO

Marvel Heores on consoles would prison rape Diablo 3. It’s f2p + it’s a good game + marvel is kinda the hotness in Hollywood right now.

Armsbend
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Armsbend

SirUrza In Path it serves the important purpose of a meeting point for trading.  There is no trading in Marvel but just because you can’t envision a purpose behind house doesn’t mean there isn’t one.

NSFW

MorpayneRADIO
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MorpayneRADIO

#5 it doesn’t “sit well with him” because everything needs to be equal in his opinion, comic book accuracy be damned.

Armsbend
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Armsbend

MorpayneRADIO Dungeon Defenders is kind of that.

MorpayneRADIO
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MorpayneRADIO

Why do we need more? We don’t “need” more, you just want more.
Not sure why so many people want to push this include girls in everything movement. It’s the same kind of thinking that’s bound to get alot of our soldiers killed in the name of equality.
Of course all that goes out the window during divorce court but that’s another discussion.

MorpayneRADIO
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MorpayneRADIO

I only want 1 thing, and it’s something I’ve wanted for arpg games since before MySpace.
Let me put my camera behind my character so I can play the game adventure game style.

Omedon
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Omedon

Bearded spider man be all like:
“Salivations, Marjorie, maybe some time we can go leb-stinging *mumblemumble*”

Rahzel
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Rahzel

I would kill for an AoA/Exiles Blink.

Wakkander
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Wakkander

My Wishlist: Hercules, because Marvel’s Herc is funny and awesome.

Regarding your list, though obviously inferior to mine…
1: Only if it has a reason for existing. Personally if I were to going the housing route with MH I’d treat it as the player creating a new Team Up, like the avengers, etc. Those in it are those in your roster, and have it so you could perhaps utilize characters you may not play a lot of or particularly care for in some fashion as a result. I have quite a few characters I do not particularly care about because that is the nature of the random heroes. If I could have them earning me xp orbs for the ones I do play, or earning eternity splinters, etc, that would be cool. And as long as were talking pie in the sky, allow custom team logos for these that appear in place of the Avengers, x-men, etc logo on the characters.

2: Just not that kind of game unfortunately, maybe a shield agent avatar representing the player in the housing addition? Give a selection of options in terms of build and make him a team up perhaps? Never replace the actual heroes, but that is the only way I’d see something like that working.

3: Valid points.

4: Loot driven games require there to be something to chase, a surefire way to take alot of the addictiveness out is to make those items super easy to come by. Not saying crafting would do that per se, but I know I would not have run Mephisto in D2 a thousand times if I could have just combined a bunch of rubies for the set item I was looking for.

5: Sure, why not, I mean, they are not Hercules, but the more heroes the better, regardless of gender.

6: Actually I would have to heavily disagree, the game needs more viable loot options so that characters can be built in more viable ways, not a streamlined loot system. This is the customization the game gives you, its the way they can allow you to have that customization. Furthermore as a loot driven game, removing loot options can actively reduce its appeal.

JoshuaJericho
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While I whole-heartedly agree that there need to be ore female options, I also think it’s very soon to show up. 

For this year we know that Kitty Pride (Shadowcat), Black Cat and Magik will be made playable characters.  So there’s 3.

They’ve also said that both Spider-Gwen and the Jane Foster Thor skins will be available as enhanced costumes.   Which is awesome I think.

If you consider the vote options for this year’s advance pack as very high chance of becoming future heroes next year that would give both Wasp and Kamala Khan a lot of hope for being heroes soon.

If you consider that Marvel is about to relaunch with new comics this fall there’s a lot of great options there too including a mysterious female Star Lord, Angela (Thor’s half-sister) getting her own comic, Silk and Spider-woman getting comics, and some unknown new female hero on the cover of the Uncanny Avengers.  So there’s a few good options too for heroes and costumes.

Plus, who knows what heroes will pop up in the movies and give them more ideas.

Do we need more?  Yes.  Definitely, but I think they’re coming.

JonBuck
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JonBuck

Gendou Monica with all the Nextwave-style humor would be stellar.

SirUrza
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SirUrza

Bannex19  It’d definitely make the game stronger if it did.

SirUrza
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SirUrza

1. Serves no purpose. Aside for a few notable super heroes, a great many of the heroes in this game live in apartments or during long arcs, the very locations already in the game as quest hubs. I don’t see it adding to the game in any protective way, if limited pvp were needed it could be done in the simulator room, not housing.

2. This is Marvel Heroes not City of Heroes. If you’re playing as Spider-Man you should look some version of Spidey.

3. Can’t disagree here.

4. Again it’s a game about loot, you get to max level and there’s a progression after that to get to the current raid content. All craftables would do is give you a bridge to skipping content and I don’t think that’s a good idea. Perhaps the crafting revamp will take care of some of those mats you have so many extras of.

5. Absolutely, unfortunately many of the females in the game get snobbed by the fan voting system. I for one want Jessica Drew’s Spider-Woman in the game as her own character, not just a team up, but she went up againt a stacked roster and will probably be years from being a playable character. Fortunately she’s different enough from Peter that she’ll never be a reskins Spidey, unlike Spider-Gwen. Silk is an awesome character, she’s clearly Peter’s X-23. But unfortunately the community groans every time we see another Spider character getting added to the game instead of the backlog of others.

6. The game has strong action RPG roots, the whole point to all the gear is to tinker!

Bannex19
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Bannex19

OMG if this game comes to the ps4 you can kiss Diablo goodbye

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