Destiny 2’s endgame is now helpfully locked behind Curse of Osiris access

If you’ve decided to hold off on buying the Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris DLC, good news! The game’s endgame is now locked away from you completely! Looking back, it’s unclear why we prefaced that by calling it good news.

Yes, the first DLC for the game is out now, and that means an increase to both the Power level cap and the addition of new endgame antics. However, if you don’t own the DLC, your Power level is capped lower than the required minimum… for activities that were present in the game at launch. The Heroic strike list also locks you out even though it has a Power level you can reach.

Obviously, the endgame activities for the game are meant to rely upon the most recent DLC, a common situation in more or less every MMO ever. That doesn’t make it feel less irritating when content that has been in the game since launch is suddenly inaccessible to you as a result.

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Estranged
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“The game’s endgame is now locked away from you completely!”

“However, if you don’t own the DLC, your Power level is capped lower than the required minimum… for activities that were present in the game at launch.”

This is false, please correct.

I know it seems like I’m on a crusade, but I described what is inaccurate about the source material below.

No, I don’t work for Bungie. lol

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Space Captain Zor

Now more glad than ever that I didn’t buy that season pass and only paid $40 for the base game. What a disappointment.

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smulb

They did the same thing with Destiny 1 didn’t they?

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shear

Yep, and everyone is acting like this is something new. They did it the first time around, maybe if you didn’t buy D2 they would have learned their lesson.

This is what I find so hilarious about the loot box situation or the destiny 2 situation is that people who moan about it are the people who spend money on these things. They don’t care about moaning, they have your money.

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Mewmew

Stuff people were sold with the original game is now locked away from them unless they buy a DLC package. That doesn’t seem legal?

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Zen Dadaist

Man, I hate it when that kind of bait and switch happens. Some content I was happily partaking in is suddenly locked behind a whole set of new locks and gates for no reason other than to force me to buy something else – all to get back to doing what I had been doing before. If I was a D2 player I’d likely be quite pissed off.

Estranged
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Estranged

Devil’s advocate:

Does it bother you that WoW locks ALL content you have purchased, unless you sub? How about FF XIV?

Also, I was at the minimum light level for raids before the DLC dropped. This is false. Totally false. Raid level is 290, I was at 302 before the DLC. Some raid variations are above the old maximum light of 305. However, you can still qualify for a basic raid.

The raid would be too easy without raising the bar, if gear level also increased.

I’m sorry, some of this is very misleading.

Like all games, some content is locked behind the DLC.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2017/12/6/16743276/destiny-2-curse-of-osiris-content-locked-prestige-nightfall-raid

A less dramatic reference.

However,this change seems too quick for PC players. Console owners had an extra 6 weeks to digest the old content.

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Emiliano Lozada

WoW or FFXIV doesn’t lock me out mere months after launching though. It’s after a number of years and with a lot of warning beforehand when it does.

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kgptzac

Both WoW and FF14 have a box price and a subscription.

Both call their new endgame content patches expansions.

So yeah, it bothers me for Destiny 2 being a game requiring a full box price call its new endgame additional content DLC, instead of the more accept term of expansion.

Estranged
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Estranged

kgptzac – the content package is too small to be called an expansion. That would really bring out the pitchforks.

Destiny requires a box price, but no sub. Is much cheaper to play, over time.

However, I do understand where you are coming from…

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Armsbend

I know how reasonable you are and you are only defending this because you really like the game. Otherwise you’d have your torch lit with the rest of us.

“Does it bother you that WoW locks ALL content you have purchased, unless you sub?”

Everyone who has ever played WoW knows on that very first day they create a character that you only play if you sub. When Destiny sells you a product and then takes away what you had it is apples and oranges.

To use your WoW example. If every time they came out with an expac – they didn’t allow you to play Classic raids. Would that be cool?

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Estranged

Arms, guess I look at my total cost of ownership of the Destiny franchise and ignore the psychology of these changes.

Your point is valid. However, good luck finding anyone to run an old raid, unless for cosmetics. Blizzard doesn’t let you run them at level, for current gear.

Ironically, one reason I did quit WoW is discovering BTP and FTP options. Shouldn’t I be able to play content through Cata w/o a sub? I bought all expansions to that point.

WoW doesn’t have to give it away, however. It isn’t necessary, so hey! More power to them.

So, I understand the frustration. Really bothered me that some of this content was misleading via the referenced source.

You can still run raids, just not all raids.

You can run nightfalls, just not all of them.

Once again, I see the frustration.

Edit: Good game and good luck in the playoffs.

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Armsbend

Thanks brother!

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Estranged

The polygon article above is wrong about light level. You can obtain +5 more light with mods.

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Xijit

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Guess why I stopped playing the first Destiny, never bought any of the DLC, and refuse to but Destiny 2?

No, you can’t guess “because they pulled the same shit when they released the fallen king” on your first try … that option is locked behind the DLC.

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Shaun Shaungbr

People will only take so much crap. The video game industry seems intent on self destruction because of greed. It happened before it could happen again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983

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Armsbend

Gaming got so much better after 1983. Everyone here should be wishing it upon the industry the same as they would every industry.

Bree gets on that dude for mocking developers at every MMO sunset MOP prints. Now I think he is on to something. These sub-humans need to have their faces pushed into the feces they have spewed at us.

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Darthbawl

Jim Sterling of course has you covered!

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thirtymil

*looks over at The Division*

Should have gone with World Tiers instead for your raids, Bungie.

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Estranged

No sub. No sub. No sub.

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Sray

I doubt that all of the “stumbles” we’ve been seeing game companies make post Battlefront 2 is accidental. This feels like they’re intentionally working on giving players “protest exhaustion”. They keep “screwing up”, getting players in an ever diminishing uproar until no one has the energy to care anymore; and then they roll out the truly egregious stuff, and we just lie down and let it happen because we don’t have it in us to fight anymore.

Dammit guys, I was finally enjoying having an MMO to play again; but I can’t support this kind of crap.

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Armsbend

Or they are pushing out the older generation that expects more to herald a newer generation that simply doesn’t know how good it was 10 years ago. If they successfully get us out of the marketplace then yes, they will lose revenue – but only in the short term.

I’m now convinced the approach is twofold 1) legislative and 2) destroying work place morale. Developers are largely made of gamers themselves – but they’ve been corrupted. Let them know you hate them and what they stand for. Every time one of the bastards is fired celebrate publicly in their faces.

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Sray

I’m not quite exactly at that point of view just yet myself; it feels to me like that type of thinking too easily leads down the road of harassing developers.

However, I can’t help but think about that article MOP ran last week about what Mark Jacobs was saying about the kind of demand for many of these guys working in the game studios. If they’re so in demand, why are they working for studios that do stuff that they find objectionable? Either Mark Jacobs is a shitty guy to work for, and that’s what everyone is telling him to spare his feelings; or the more likely explanation is that they’re profiting from it, so they’re not going to rock the boat. So, I have reached the point where I’m not going to shed a tear when these guys get screwed out of employment by the same companies that have been screwing us too.

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Armsbend

I consider it harassing when someone actively goes out and bothers them – on their social media profiles, in person, through the mail, etc. Not my bag. I’m suggesting publicly celebrating their failures not wishing them well. They sure as hell don’t wish you well.

You are right about who they choose to work for. Everyone here acts as if the suits are pulling every string on the poor coders. Give me a break – like when you sign up for EA or Bungie you don’t know what you are doing.

These fuckers aren’t artists. ARTISTS are artists. These are coders with marching orders who think they are artists. Hacks who sold off any talent they possess to the highest bidder. Treat them like you would any other corporate stooge.

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Sray

Sorry, didn’t mean to imply you were in favor of harassment. I know your opinion of harassers is at least as low as mine.

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Armsbend

Nah it was a fair assessment. Someone probably looks at a person like me as a harasser. Maybe I am in some respects I don’t know. Personally I just draw the line when you do it on anything other than a very public and benign forum or if you attack something about the person other than what they do publicly. Like I wouldn’t attack someone’s looks, or what they do etc.

shrug. although I’m sure i’ve transgressed more than once. depressed going to meditate. cheers friend!

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Sray

Arms, I’d never think of you as a harasser type. There may be times I wonder if you live under a bridge (I kid, I kid); but never that you’re a harasser.

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rafael12104

I know. I’m upset about, it. It’s just a game and all that, but the gall they have to try this. I don’t know…

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Frank White

Doesn’t matter how many good points Destiny 2 has or how much you enjoy it, you shouldn’t be supporting a game that does this kind of thing by buying any more of their dlc. Seriously, this is the only way these companies will learn and stop these practices, if you hurt their bottom line. I can’t see any good justification for taking away content that players paid for and enjoyed – until you put it behind a freakin’ paywall.

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Scratches

That Libertarian line of “vote with your wallet” never works, though; it’s trite bs, at best. Companies are gonna company and developers are gonna develop (and so on…) regardless, because of human behaviour — specifically, the Sunk-Cost Fallacy in this case. In short, the pain of losing a few $$ is a lot less to a person, emotionally, than losing everything they’ve worked for up until this point.

The human brain isn’t rational, regardless of gender, and as we’ve seen with the lootbox controversy blowup, developers (and publishers in particular (the real bogeyman here, imho)) have no qualms about exploiting that for profit….

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Rolan Storm

*slowclap to Bungie*

Had no idea, got to 20 on my Titan yesterday. Bought it with discount… Well, I am not giving up yet, but this is… discouraging. Very. Also 95% here of readers told so. :) But no, I had to buy it…

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Gadgets-4G

Another game happily avoided.

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Boom

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Rees Racer

I’m an MMORPG lad at heart. Most of my gaming time goes into the likes of Guild Wars 2 and ESO these days. I still like Blade & Soul and TERA as well. But I had a go in the sci-fi shooter genre with Destiny 2 last month, and found it…fun. But then I was not-so-gently prodded by mates into Warframe, where I have become more addicted to a game than I have in ages.

It seems I chose wisely…

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Scratches

I like what DE is doing with Warframe, I really do, and I want to enjoy Warframe, but.. I just can’t get past it’s visual style and aesthetic. It makes me really sad…. :(

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Rees Racer

Honestly, the general aesthetic was initially a big turn-off for me as well. I first installed it early in the year, and began the tutorial…stopped after 10 minutes, and uninstalled. Then I came back and had another go last month, and have since been quite taken with it all.

Quite frankly, some of the frames are rather unappealing (to me). But there are more than 30 from which to eventually choose, and I’ve found a few I fancy. After a time, the visual style grows on you, which is appropriate as the art department favours a rather organic flair.

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Armsbend

It reminds me a bit of H.R. Giger and Alien a bit. Sleek, sexual and violent.

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rafael12104

Seriously, as soon as I get my money back, this D2 shit is getting wiped off of my HD and Warframe will take it’s place.

I really didn’t think Bungie would do this again. I thought this was supposed to be their “real” Destiny release and apology to those unsatisfied the first time.

And you know, for many years, I held Bungie in high regard because of Halo and what it did for the Xbox. When I played and watched Destiny 1 struggle, I still held them in high regard telling myself it was their first MMO. That they learned their lessons and they would do better.

Fuck that. I missed the point entirely.

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Xijit

Dude, Bungie no longer exists.

At least not the company that made Halo … they were quietly bought out by Activision right after D1 launched. That is what the entire legal issue with the composer being fired was about: he was a founding member of Bungie, but wasn’t really on board with the buy out & the other founders wanted to keep his cut of the buy out for themselves.

So they tried to fire him in a really shitty way that cut him out of his stock options.

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Jack Kerras

I seem to recall that Activision promised not to fuck with the product, and then turned around and bought Led Zeppelin music for the trailers, telling Marty that he could go piss up a rope if he didn’t like it.

He did.

Now we don’t get Marty music anymore. :C But he put out his Music of the Spheres album on Twitter.

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Alex Willis

Hard to avoid this conclusion, isn’t it? From a value perspective, there’s actually zero comparison here. (Small edit to your picture, though: the Rainbow Unicorn should actually be barfing more rainbows.)

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Rolan Storm

Thanks for the comment, discussion gave me food to form intention. I will try Warframe.

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Armsbend

It’s one of the best games available – when you start playing it boggles the mind how free it all is.

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Rolan Storm

Keep hearing this. I’ve been waiting for Destiny 2 and thought it would be good for me. But that up there it’s like shooting oneself in the leg after dodging a bullet. Ridiculous.

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Bannex

People compare warframe to destiny all the time… the overall polish and gunplay in warframe is really pretty awful.

If you’re looking for a free shooter with gameplay to match then get warframe.

Destiny on the other hand has a lot of problems and D2 is a shockingly bad game but the overall gameplay is still leagues better than warframe.

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Funny, I find the gunplay and polish of Warframe to be astoundingly good.

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Rees Racer

I agree wholeheartedly with the “polish” argument, but as far as “gunplay” is concerned…Warframe has a much more varied experience available with weapon-types, and playstyles. Providing worldwide regional servers (and player hosting) means a headshots remain true, even at extreme range. Also, I find it a significantly more visceral experience with its Mature rating. Cleaving some alien monstrosity into pieces with a greatsword, or a stealth kill with a bow (or combo blade and electric whip) is more satisfying.

Since Warframe is F2P, everyone can judge for themselves…and no gated paywalls, regardless.

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Jerry

You state your opinion like it is fact. Destiny 2 has better gun play, true. But Warframe has way more powers and a huge amount of classes/powersets (over 25). Warframe also has legit melee play that is not based on limited charges. Warframe has more content than Destiny 1 and 2 combined, much more. I play both, Warframe is a larger game and more an mmo-lite. Destiny 2 is closer to a pure shooter. It is fun but massively lacks content. In 2 months you competely finish the game on all 3 classes easily.

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A Dad Supreme

That was my opinion as well.

Destiny 2 has incredible gameplay and a smoothness that’s second to none. Warframe has a far better class system and player options.

They both excel at what the other doesn’t.

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A Dad Supreme

I liked my short time in Destiny 2. The story was much improved from 1, the weapons were still fun and the gameplay/action is incredibly responsive and well made, with a “Blizzard smooth” quality of work.

Because I’m not much for PvP in games like this, I judged the “endgame” on the raiding.

Much like D1, I found the raiding to be incredibly complicated and taxing, especially when trying random groups. It seemed to be more on the level of an MMO’s endgame raiding with all the objectives to win. While that is something I love in my PC MMO play, it wasn’t something that I liked in my console gaming as I am not as good with a controller as I am with a keyboard.

Because of that, my effective endgame ended the minute I beat the Alien-faced Bane storyboss with a rocket launcher, ran a few dailies and then stopped playing Destiny 2. My son who is a D1 fanatic stopped playing long before I did which I found telling, as he is a PvP monster and went back to LoL and Overwatch.

The fact that the “endgame” is now locked behind DLC doesn’t concern me as I consider myself to have already reached that endgame already.

TLDR: Was worth the purchase, but I won’t buy DLC.

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Greaterdivinity

Same thing happened in Destiny 1, Bungie seems to be repeating all the same mistakes and not learning shit from the last time.

Oh well, I kinda expected this and already purchased the DLC anyways, but it’s shitty for folks that haven’t since they’ll miss out on some weekly milestones periodically.

I love the damn moment to moment gameplay/gunplay, game is super satisfying to play, but god-damn do they need to learn to design better systems and plan better. The worst part is mostly watching them make the same mistakes and make a bunch of dumb design decisions when they should have learned better over the past few years from all the Destiny 1 issues. Especially since they’re on PC now, where folks absolutely have higher standards/expectations compared to console. WHERE IS MY DAMN CHAT SOLUTION : |

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Armsbend

“Bungie seems to be repeating all the same mistakes”

Or learning from their successes.

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pepperzine

My thoughts exactly Armsbend. Worked out fine for them last time, and so many people still bought the sequel.

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McGuffn

did they really relock existing content behind new DLC in D1? I was thinking how similar it was to the interview to end all interviews:

Eurogamer: I’m not going to buy the game and the two DLCs all over again.
Luke Smith: Okay, but first I want to poke at you on this a little bit.
Eurogamer: Poke at me?
Luke Smith: You’re feeling anxious because you want this exclusive content but you don’t know yet how much you want it. The notion of spending this money is making you anxious, I can see it
Eurogamer: I do want them. I would buy them –
Luke Smith: If I fired up a video right now and showed you the emotes you would throw money at the screen.
Eurogamer: What I’m saying is that fan frustration is not because they don’t understand the proposition. It comes regardless of how cool the exclusive content is. The frustration – and mine as a fan – is that the method of acquiring it requires me to re-buy content I bought a year ago.
Luke Smith: [Long pause] It’s about value. The player’s assessment of the value of the content.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-22-destiny-the-taken-king-director-defends-40-expansion-price-tag

Only here the exclusive content is stuff that you could play last week but now have to pay to play. The decisions this studio makes are insane. Just go back to making Halo or Mac games and stop trying to screw with people in your skinner box.

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Danny Smith

and just guess who is now in charge of Destiny?

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Armsbend

Then why doesn’t the same thing happen for games under the Blizzard banner?

I’m not being rhetorical. I’d really like to know why developer has some cash shop stuff but not nearly as egregious as another under the same publisher. There must be incentives. I don’t know.

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McGuffn

he’s probably referring to the guy in the interview, Luke Smith, director of destiny 2.

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Armsbend

I thought he meant Activision but thanks for clearing it up.

I really would like to know why Blizzard is fair, Activision is less so with Call of Duty and now Destiny is off the charts evil…all under the same company banner. It really makes me beg the question – should I really be supporting Blizzard games so much?

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Sally Bowls

The industry lurches along swinging from one problem to another.

I watched the stream of the SWBF2 announcement. EA said gamers did not like how in BF1, selling DLC walled you off from friends who you could not play with. So SWBF2 was not going to have DLC. And the crowd clapped. Alas, EA’s SWBF2 solution to no DLC has not been universally praised. :-)

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rafael12104

Sheezus….. what the hell is going on here? Is the gaming industry this rife with scam artists? Really?

So, I talked to my credit card company and the charge back process is underway. Once complete, I will uninstall this damn game and never look back.

I like Destiny 2. But, I paid for something, and later, had it modified and end game taken away. I just won’t fucking stand for that shit. At least EA is kind enough to try and screw me up front.

Seriously, I’m not sure where to go from here. Do I buy any games at all?

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Tithian

Surprisingly, I found that lately the F2P games have better monetization than the god-damn B2P ones. Nowdays I just play Path of Exile and Warframe and call it a day. Maybe the odd single player offline RPG now and then.

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rafael12104

Yup. Excluding mobile games, I think you are right. And POE is the perfect example of how it should be done. I can’t speak on Warframe yet, but it is on my list of games to play now in large part because of this.

At the very least, they aren’t double dipping.

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Armsbend

If you are like most of us you probably have too many games on Steam that you maybe shouldn’t have bought. Except now – it’s good we have them because 99% of everything going forward isn’t worth buying.

I’m not getting sucked in by hype any longer. Anything released after 2015 is mostly trash.

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Kevin Cowart

This is a great point, and one we need to remind fellow gamers of in these dark times. The back catalog of great games is unfathomable. I’m sure just a PS2 and stack of RPGs could occupy me till I’m dead and thats just one console.

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Rees Racer

*pokes Rafael*

“hey look…over here!”

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rafael12104

Oh, man… did you buy the DLC? I hope you aren’t in the same boat I am.

So, Warframe is really lookin good now. In fact, as soon as I get this sorted, I’m installing it.

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Rees Racer

I did not purchase the DLC, fortunately, as I was initially uncertain how I would like the genre, overall. But I did get my money’s worth in the “base” game, and it eventually led me to Warframe…so I choose to look at it as a quality investment. At least I felt like I could better handle the swifter sort of gameplay involved. D2 kind of served as a beginner course. ;)

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Armsbend

That’s the fun of it imho. At first it seems so fast it’s just a mess but after a month or so mastering the game it fits perfectly and I found myself trying to be faster and more acrobatic.

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Alex Malone

There are still plenty of great games out there, you just have to search around a bit more to find ones that aren’t a scam.

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camren_rooke

Go find the little glows rafael.

The Crate Entertainments, Wadjet Eye’s, Grinding Gear Games, and so on.

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neil shelton

Is the gaming community done being dueced on yet? I am personally, i only follow games.. get physically sick of them playing them. Only watch in hopes things change.

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wratts

Off topic, but as someone new to the whole Destiny experience, finding the limited fireteam finding capabilities very strange. How do people find a group or clan to run Nightfall or Leviathan or other end-game? Seems to have virtually no social features for people who don’t already have friends playing

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Dušan Frolkovič

The social features are there, but they work through the Destiny website.
Clan chat mostly is there, and then most people have a Discord server.

Interestingly while it was very weird at the start, i have to say i kinda like it.
It requires conscious effort to connect to other people, but then you play with persons that put in the same effort. It kinda weeds out the usual general chat crowd.

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wratts

Cool thanks. Guess I just need to make the time investment

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CapnLan

You have to use third party tools like Discord or the forums. There are no in game tools to do so.

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pepperzine

Shocking! /s

Did everyone just ignore the strategy they employed in destiny 1?

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Dušan Frolkovič

More probable: Destiny 1 was console-only so less people cared :)

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Iain B

I paid $15 for the DLC (bought the $90 bundle) and I feel ripped off. The new content is laughable, 2 hours for the new campaign and the new planet is the size of a crucible map.

My clan could not raid on Tuesday because Bungie just raised the light level for the raid and we have people under 300. We literally could not run a raid we had already run multiple times.

Who the hell makes old content harder? No one!

Fuck you too Bungie!

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Armsbend

Stop buying their bullshit then.

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camren_rooke

The light was so strong.

It was blinding but at the same time it was comforting. I had been in that light for so long I knew it, knew what I could expect from it, what I wanted from it. It was ever present and encompassing.

It wasn’t always like that though. It used to be much smaller, barely a glow. A glow that wanted to be near me, be with me, was just happy to be in existence. We had fun together then, hurky jerky fun, just trying to figure out what we were doing. Even back then though, I knew it had needs and well, I fed it.

And it grew. It was a light now. We were happy together. It entertained me and I enjoyed being around it. We weren’t so spastic now and began to settle down, understand each other. Its needs became stronger but I didn’t mind. I held out my hand and let it take. It fed then with trepidation, fearful. I thought it was out of fear of hurting me.

Soon it was a spotlight, bright light the sun, with a burning gaze. It was too bright actually and I told it so, but it didn’t seem to hear me. I asked myself if I even enjoyed being around it anymore? Where else would I go? What else was there?

Because of these fears I put up with it. The overwhelming light, that now tells me we are having fun even though I don’t feel it and I’m pretty sure it isn’t either.

The worst part is when it goes dark, plunging me into darkness. It used to always be there whether I fed it or not. A glow or a light but now, it withholds itself, ravenously demanding I feed it. It won’t come back unless I give it more and more. Even if I do, its light is pale and sickly not warm and enjoyable.

It was during one of those times, when it left me in the dark, that I saw something off in the distance.

It was a glow!

Not the one I had fed so long ago, now grown too large, but a smaller one. This one was odd, eclectic, familiar. It’s movements were erratic, like it was walking on new legs but it seemed happy just to be alive.

I have decided to stay with this glow. It isn’t shiny or polished like the blinding light I left behind but that is OK. I even kind of miss the blinding light but it wasn’t worth feeding. This new glow needs food too but not so much and its much less demanding.

It’s right for me.

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Rolan Storm

Agree with rafael12104. Great read.

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Jerry

Wall of Text hits you for 10,000 points of damage. Read 3 lines and realized it was somebody’s artistic endeavor and stopped reading. Wish I could down vote.

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Armsbend

If we were in James Bond’s car right now I’d eject you out of the passenger seat.

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Rees Racer

Off he goes…

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rafael12104

Great read. 5 stars. Would read again.

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camren_rooke

Thanks! I been in a real funk writing wise recently, Thanksgiving with the folks was …not fun, but this felt OK to me.

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CapnLan

Having bought and played the DLC I can say that it isn’t worth it anyway. The story line is excruciatingly short, about 2 hours if that. It’s a standard “everyone is going to die so go and be the Big Hero” story. Nothing exciting. No major twists or turns and it doesn’t further develop the lore. One of the story missions is actually just the Pyramidion Strike that got reskinned. You actually spend about half the story revisiting old locations instead of using the new zone. So it’s heavy on recycled assets.

This article isn’t exaggerating either. The stuff you used to be able to do before got bumped up and locked behind Light Levels you can only attain by owning the DLC. So yes, you have to pay to do the things you used to do. If a DLC map pops up for the weekly Nightfall and you don’t have the DLC, you can’t run it. Sorry. You’re SOL for the week. Yay.

They added in some new DLC locked gear and loot, some of which is kind of fun. But they aren’t really worth the price.

Basically what you’re paying for here is a 2 hour story, a new zone with almost no content, new loot, and the ability to unlock stuff you already used to do. This should not have been a paid DLC. It should have been a free update for everyone.

For those of you who already have Destiny 2 and have the expansion pass, you might as well jump in and check it out since you already paid for it. You might get another 2-3 days of content out of it. For those of you who don’t have D2 or the DLC, my honest opinion is to give it a pass. It’s not worth it to jump in at this point.

It’s a shame too as the combat, lore, and environments are top notch. Bungie just didn’t go the distance to make it sustainable and this minimum effort DLC didn’t help it at all.

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Armsbend

After your review I’m not sure this isn’t worse than EA’s Star War debacle. It seems worse to me. SWBF2 never took anything away that you once had – to the best of my knowledge.

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BalsBigBrother

Well I imagine that everyone is so happy about this and are cheering Bungie on while saying well done chaps. Um or I might be typing nonsense due to a severe caffeine to blood imbalance. (remember kids don’t do drugs), right now where is that coffee IV drip

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Darthbawl

This is worth a hearty laugh for sure!

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Tanek

Adding DLC or an expansion* is one thing. You expect some games to do that to add content. But essentially taking away content from the already existing game? If they wanted a new endgame, make new content for it, no? Or scale the existing into different level ranges. I can understand why players would be annoyed at how this was done.

*I don’t generally think of DLC as something that adds that much more power or advancement levels to a game. that, to me, is an expansion where a DLC is more horizontal.

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Deadrites

and this pile of crap is going to be one of the highest grossing games of the year. Don’t think that other devs aren’t looking at its success and thinking of ways they can implement it.

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Dantos

I mean, I get them wanting content to stay relevant across expansions (and get more people to buy the dlc), but I think im done, I was done weeks ago really, but this certainly hasnt inspired me to come back, especially now with MORE TIMERS!

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rafael12104

Wait. So let me get this straight.

I bought Destiny 2 and played the crap out of it for a weeks intending to come back over the holidays when I had more time. What I bought and paid for included end game.

But now that the DLC dropped, I don’t have access to end game? The end game, that I paid for with my initial purchase, has been taken away?

WTF, Bungie? Seriously, are you guys trying to be the new bad corp on the block?

We will make room for you, no worries.

I was planning to go back and Destiny 2, but if what I’m reading here is true? And if the DLC is not free? I’m out.

Hell, I will even try and return the game.

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Peter Couse

I’m with ya, it boggles my mind. Just on the surface it is like…is this legal?

I cannot even come up with an allegory for this in another industry. Maybe buying a car, driving it for two months and coming out in the morning and finding your steering wheel gone with a note from the manufacturer that for ‘just a little extra’ you get the steering wheel back and an extra 8-track player. it just makes me say over and over again, WHUT?

Thank God for game forums and internet rage…steered me clear of this.

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rafael12104

It is the old bait and switch, isn’t it? Wow….

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Ariel Domen

I never bought any Destiny game and I’m already mad lol. I can’t believe what’s happening to games, I feel for you, what a shameless move.

Please guys just stop buying to these companies. It’s the only way!

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Alex Malone

I can understand the reason – to get more people to buy the DLC – but it’s just wrong.

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Jeremy

So, $90 to buy in? Ya, no thanks.

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Dušan Frolkovič

Right now i am really glad i got my 2 weeks of really good enjoyment out of this game before all this (insert something nasty) came out.

I guess we should start giving games two ratings: how good the game is and how nasty the monetization.

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Armsbend

Here are my thoughts on the…you know, why bother?

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Zora

I meant to say something along those lines but you beat me to my daily dose of jaded remarking of the obvious!

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Armsbend

Another day, another developer unzipping the pants, and spraying into the awaiting faces of their adoring public.

I’m not only done with the lockboxes, the crowdfunding nonsense but add in early announced DLC. I’m not buying your piece of shit if you announce DLC right when the game comes out. Because you made it a year ago and you are just wanting to gate it because $60 isn’t enough you greedy fucks.

Now that Destiny is released I hope Activision cuts out large swaths of coders from the ranks. Like a great scythe carving out the worth of people’s lives. Making it more apparent that this is the worst job you could take out of school. Killing the industry in the long term. It’s garbage and needs a painful, bloody death.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

Nothing refreshes like a good rant. Thanks for doing it for us.

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Armsbend

I am poor at controlling my emotions.

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