Shroud of the Avatar raised another $67K in last week’s telethon

    
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These fields may not be forever.

Did you tune in during the last Shroud of the Avatar telethon? If not, you missed singing, dancing, and the live footage of a dinosaur being born (that last one might not have happened). You also missed the developers raising more than $67,000 and hitting several milestones for future in-game rewards for everyone who pledged. It’s good news for anyone who likes dragonfly pets and developers looking absurd on video, or just for people happy to see a little bit more money in the SotA war chest.

If you don’t care about all of that, though, the latest development preview still has something for you in the form of many in-development landscapes. You can take a closer look at Brittany Fields, examine the halls of Valhold, and then dive into the depths of the Halls of Artifice, all without having to actually move anything other than your mouse. Which is probably all you would be moving if you explored all of these locations in-game, too, but that’s not the point.

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sciencestick BurnFyreRoast The publisher has claimed that they expose to their users how much money is being spent on which part of the game and they periodically release funding information like this as part of their business model, which I have seen a little of. So this isn’t news and since it has been done before, certainly not delusions.

I was just interested in what the new player interest is at this point as they are getting ready to move into a persistent state in June. I think it is a valid question and something they must be looking at themselves already!

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BurnFyreRoast sciencestick 
Reposting a comment from 20 hours ago, because it doesn’t seem to have gone through; Perhaps because of html links I’ve edited out.

This SotA Guy, neutral observers, is the kind of quality of defender Shroud
has; notice he doesn’t mention anything about the actual content within
the game, or even seems to have an actual Shroud account by his own
admission. But he’ll write up a personally abusive post decrying what he
imagines people are saying about game content he’s only imagining could
possibly, one day, be added to the game…
And whilst it’s
technically true that the Shroud community tends to be more mature and
polite than the display here, age doesn’t make them wise; the
constant focus upon a tiny number of extremely rich people has led to
wider public interest in the game collapsing. The highest ever number of
players recorded by Steam? Only 240. And that was over 2 years ago. It
averages only 150 or so now. 

(Link Removed: Google “Shroud Avatar Steamcharts” for the proof)

Because
“in the real world” $6000 dollars to assert your superiority to other
players is both an unreasonable spend for the average hard worker, and
morally offensive to boot. But it keeps happening to the point
individuals on the forums are even openly stating they believe they’ve
been able to buy opt-outs of the global rules for the game on the
official forums;

(Link removed: You need to have spent the $5 to see the official forums, but if you can, search for “I’ve made multiple public and private request for this, and I believe at least for my POT that will be the case.”  )

So
ask yourself, is that the kind of game you want to play? In the real
world, people are saying “Absolutely not”. And calling them “Idiots
(who) just love to hate” is going to change that? I doubt it.
But
of course, by attacking Shroud you’re taking away “sciencesticks” sense
of “fun gameplay, persistence, friends and escapism.”  So ask yourself
this; is someone who openly admits he needs to escape from his own life,
who apparently values friends in a game more than making new ones over a
shared interest, who doesn’t understand nothing you do in a game is
truly persistent… is this kind of commentary REALLY the sort you think
knows anything about real fun? Shroud has so very, very little
of true “fun”. Because it’s spent all its focus for 3 years now on
developing store add ons for the sort of person who has to buy their way
to imagined success, rather than gain it by just living, loving, and
yes levelling and having fun.

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sciencestick BurnFyreRoast

You jump all over the place on your points, let me make this a little more simple for you to understand. I hate the game because of the community. Not because of the devs, not because of Unity, not because the game is early access and unfinished, not because of the store business model, not because of the drinking contest telethons, and so on, and so on.

After purchasing the 50% off deal and joining the official forums, I found out first hand what I had read about before. Gaming has a problem these days and it is pretty much the sad fact that gamers as a group are a bunch pack animals. SotA’s business model in a lot of way feeds those issues, but I don’t blame the Publisher for it I blame the community. The same community who has this to say about Steam users.

“…not the gamers we are looking for”

“…they tend to be the kind of people you tolerate but certainly wouldn’t let them sit at the adult table”

“I find most [Steam] reviews useless, juvenile…”

“…the majority of Steam users are somewhere in the rage of pre-teen – social misfit – Asperger’s”

“…millennials and newer generations which tend to basically have A.D.D. in almost everything they do”

tl;dr – I faced a large community which was quite negative to “outsiders” and that has painted SotA in a bad picture for me. I’m not into Single Player games, went there looking for a Multi Player community and I found one that I hated due to many things, like comments above. There was no reason for me to stay, and this is just one pre-teen douche bag’s hateful opinion.

SOTA P2W YEAH!

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sciencestick BurnFyreRoast Celestia 209vaughn Well I didn’t use the term P2W. I was addressing someone’s question and providing a more realistic insight as to what the current known process is for attaining said house.

I’m interested in knowing the facts, the fact of the matter Shroud of the Avatar never said that everyone would have a house and in fact indicated it wouldn’t be possible for everyone to have a house. There is nothing wrong with that, it was said long ago and is a fact. I don’t hate them for it, it was one of the big things that drew people into the Kickstart in the first place wasn’t it? So, good!

That lottery thing however, little bit of a joke and they should find a better way to get that done.

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sciencestick BurnFyreRoast

Sciencestick, how someone can make a game in my world:

Make the game fun.

Here endeth the lesson.

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FacelessSavior Where did I claim to represent them? Notice that part where I say I’m not currently a backer? You can’t post without a minimum pledge, which no doubt is why all the leeches and parents-basement hipsters are not in there trolling every little feature they don’t care for. Like they are with BDO. I will probably buy, but I am watching a few MMO’s and not currently 100%… all I know is there’s no current monetization model that both supports the game company and makes every player happy… the closest thing I think is B2P with a cash shop full of a wide range of cosmetic items, from cheap to whale. But as we can see, the people with 16 hours a day are NOT happy that whales get to buy the “prestige ” they deludedly* think they’re going to obtain by playing.

*because MMO’s don’t deliver on the idea of a virtual life where you are more important than your IRL day job**… they just don’t do that successfully and this is the ultimate truth behind why haters like Burn do not want whales buying seaside castles before the 16hr gamers like him can “earn the prestige” of having them from “earning them”.

** what they do deliver for me and other with more reasonable expectations is fun gameplay, persistence, friends and escapism.

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@sciencestick As a 3rd party observer with no dog in this race, you’re not exactly providing an example for this Great, Understanding, Informed, community you claim to represent. Just saying.

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BurnFyreRoast because expecting to see a private companies books is not the delusion of a child at all…

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BurnFyreRoast Celestia 209vaughn because you need a house? when did barbi doll house dress up become a pay to win item? Oh that’s right you feel entitled to it so it’s P2W so in other words it’s a no win scenario where you get to hate no matter what they do or do not do. Because ultimately you’re more interested in hating than gaming.

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BurnFyreRoast sciencestick 
Well at least you admit it:

 “I take that back, you were right about one other thing, and that is
idiots just love to hate. I’m a 38 year old member who found Shroud of
the Avatar on sale for 50% off not long ago. I hate this game. I hate
the community. I hate everything”
Of course you do, truth stings, so lash back with arbitrary statements that you then don’t bother to support with any reasoning. Nothing in your reply resembles a rational refutation or contradiction, just “you’re only right about 1 thing… okay two”, you’re just angry that you resemble my remark so perfectly. You can’t articulate why you hate SOTA, you just know you hate that someone with deeper pockets has a different title or different looking house or other completely cosmetic gimmick, you don’t have answers for why this hurts your butt so much but you hate the polite and welcoming community because they are not snotty hipster-elitists who hate everything on sight. You just want amazing things for free, or that can only be earned by people with 14 hours a day free time (AKA no job and living with parents) because that’s the life and expectations your parents have provided you with. No monetization model that can support a game company will make you happy you simply don’t realize it yet; so you make posts like the above completely lacking any reasoning or logic for WHY, because of course your reasons are arbitrary and subjective, and completely born of self entitlement and a lack of engagement in the real world.

SOTA has some features I don’t care for, but I’m a reasonable person and I expect no game ever to be perfectly as I would want it to be. I don’t expect talented people of any age to work for free because I have a life and reasonable world view formed from not having things handed to me. Will SOTA work? I’m not sure, and I’m pretty sure that gameplay and the execution of features will be 99% of that equation, and not monetary model. However I can’t help but notice that it ticks almost every anti-P2W box for how to support an MMO… it’s B2P and it has a cash shop that is as far as I can tell completely costmetics… it’s got whales, but they are functionally only getting cosmetic “prestige” items and early access that are not able to effect character power…

But yet so much hate… because some Dev’s are clowning for the camera and pandering to support their game and maybe improve it above what they would have been able to? Tell me how anyone makes a game in your world… Oh I know, a dozen devs come live in your parents basement with you along with their kids and pets… so they can give you the escape from your parent basement hell that costs no money while rewarding your 16 hours a day free time over people who have 2 hours a weekend free time… Because you at the tender age of 38 still don’t inherently understand that Time=money and money=time.