Crowfall details the obdurate Stoneborn race

    
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The Stoneborn of Crowfall are not dwarves. They sometimes get referred to as dwarves, but it’s a ridiculous name because they’re as large as normal people. They’re also not a normal race, either, as they’re less “living creatures” and more “elemental creatures created at the dawn of time.” Also, every time one of them dies, that’s one less member of the race; again, they’re not living creatures and can’t reproduce. Oh, and they’re also a playable race, so this should work out well.

In-game, the Stoneborn are all male (because that’s apparently the default the gods chose to create) and boast increased strength, durability, and resistance to knockdown. They can also slot a special racial skill to make themselves more durable for a short span of time, one of the benefits of being literally made from the ground. So while they’ve got elements of dwarves, you can rest assured that they are not dwarves. They’re not even small enough to be called dwarves.

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Wakkander

As a non-reproducing race defining them as male or female seems odd, also anyone calling them dwarves. Why would ‘younger’ races call them dwarves? The argument could be made that the term is using the older origins of the word before it was associated with size, but then they point out that the use of dwarf in relating to size is established in the setting. (Which then begs the question if the in world mythology has dwarves, else where did it the term originate for them, but I am over thinking this.)

Seems rather silly and poorly thought out lore, though I like the root beards.

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hurbster

I’ll call him Jimmy McCthulubeard.

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Leiloni

Thank you for pointing out some of the silliness of the lore for this. The dying male only race thing is weird. I’d prefer if they weren’t a dying race and also had females.

But the proportions are completely out of whack. They look too exaggerated for this game. I hope the make some adjustments to that.

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Melissa McDonald

I think in the D&D world they’d be called “Golems”.

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Robert Mann

Rofl, they are ‘male’ in a non-living way? There’s no breeding going on there, so gender is kinda an odd concept for stone elementals…

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Alfredo Garcia

Once the existence of gods is assumed logic goes right out the window. In video games and real life. :P

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Melissa McDonald

maybe. Telling me everything I see around me happened randomly, by accident, and for no good reason at all takes, in my way of thinking, greater faith than belief in a deity who did it for a reason.

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Alfredo Garcia

Anybody that says everything is random doesn’t know anything about complex systems. As for reasons, the human mind tends towards anthropomorphism.

This probably isn’t the place for this discussion though, and I suspect that we wouldn’t agree on much about this subject anyway.

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Melissa McDonald

I’m just talking about the gigantic leap from a dead universe to one with life. And then going from single-cell organisms up to what we have now. That’s quite a stretch.

But I could even talk about more recent phenomenon. The problem of how the fossil record shows the spontaneous appearance of new species. Transitory forms are rare.

We know the definition of a species requires that it be fertile, and that it be genetically incapable of breeding with its opposite sex parent. We know that mutations rarely favour the organism, and are more likely harmful. We know that cross-breeding and hybridization mostly results in sterile offspring.

So, to whom was the first Giraffe born, and how is it possible that this mutation (as it could be aptly called) just-so-happened to be fertile, and just-so-happened to occur alongside other mutations of same type, also miraculously fertile, so that a breeding population of a new species could be fostered?

You can make smug declarations that asking hard questions about complex systems means you know nothing, which I will admit if YOU will. But I know enough to know what a longshot it is for a universe in chaos to somehow, someway, suddenly create life by itself – randomly – and for seemingly no reason at all.

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Alfredo Garcia

It wasn’t a smug declaration. It was in direct response to the assumptions you made about my first statement in your response. You seem intent on assuming a lot that simply hasn’t been in my posts, which were purposefully brief to avoid getting into exactly this sort of discussion in a gaming news comments section.

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Leiloni

Yea I hadn’t thought about that, but looking at other games with stone elementals they are designed in a very neutral way.