SoulWorker Online begins selling subs, responds to outcry over energy system P2W

SoulWorker is technically in open beta on paper; it isn’t supposed to truly launch until later this quarter. It hit Steam at the end of February. It announced it was done wiping. It opened up the cash shop. And now, it’s got a subscription too – an optional one, mind you.

There are actually two different subscription plans, both 30-days, and they are stackable; the silver sub grants keycards, respawners, battle books, extra auction slots, and an additional 80 daily energy. The gold sub doubles most of those bonuses, adds a few more, and adds an additional 120 max energy. It’s also possible to buy subs and sell them in-game.

But it’s the energy perks that have beta testers particularly concerned about pay-to-win, as energy limits in-game activities in a way few MMORPGs can get away with. In SoulWorker, players start with 200 daily energy, so with the double sub, they can double that number. Gameforge says it’s still considering how to proceed.

“We are reviewing comments and concerns regarding the Energy system,” says the company. “We are still collecting data and our team will continue to look into it. As counter measures, we will: Keep for now the free items in the shop (the Dynamite Power Vitamin Z and the Mat community), bring more frequently EP Party events, [and] the VIP Membership is one additional way to get more Energy in game since it’s tradeable (you can buy it from the auction house).”

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k2apa

This is why any game with VIP is instant dropped from my list. So I won’t have to play then go “OH FU P2W SHIT” and time wasting.

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Randy Savage

Is anyone else not comfortable with how they portray females in this game? After all the outrage with Overwatch, why the silence with this game? Why the support for the importation of products that do not match the ideals and values of our fledgling progressive society? Tracer’s butt sparks a huge debate but young women in overly sexualized school girl outfits doesn’t? Could someone explain it to me?

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kgptzac

You should try play games like Destiny Child (mobile game). It will broaden your horizon. You’re welcome.

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Randy Savage

No thanks. I’ve got a wife for that sort of thing.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

“keycards, respawners, battle books, extra auction slots, and an additional 80 daily energy”.

Just reading the list of superfluous game systems designed to keep you have having fun made me take a giant step back.

Basically, another animated cash shop scheme.

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Mitzruti

considering the free vitamin Z, mat, and stuff you can buy in game, it’s more like 400EP to work with, PLUS 5 entries to steel graves. and that’s if you stick to just one character.

casual players (or you know, people who work for a living) really aren’t going to run out of it.

and if you manage to blow through all that, people are more than happy to share their mats. It’s driving a social element that wouldn’t exist without the energy system.

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Chosenxeno .

Currently 8500 in game. Looks like people were waiting on the sub. I will admit that I was even though I’m at the cap. Depending on the Price it could be worth it. Besides that, the game is really fun.

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Indigo Salma

And that’s why i play on the private server. Unlimited stamina , 10x rates and lots of free stuff.

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Chosenxeno .

So you want to use their product for entertainment but you don’t want to pay them for entertaining you?

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StonerMk2

…..its F2P lol….and this isnt Korea…dont bring energy systems here.

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Mewmew

Free to Play on their server. It’s not free to steal their code and run it how you want.

Don’t like the energy system? Don’t play. It really is that simple. It’s not your right to steal the product because you don’t like something about the way the legal holders are running it.

Have you even played it currently? They give away so much free energy it’s pretty difficult to run out, unless maybe you want to play 8 hours a day or something. But yes, they definitely *owe* you more than 8 hours free a day for some reason without you spending back into the game.

Show your displeasure by not playing, not by stealing. Do they really need to have massive consequences for everything in order to keep people doing the right thing? Can’t you look and see and say “Okay stealing the game code and playing on a private server is illegal and wrong so I won’t do it” without some power forcing you by way of consequences not to do it?

Anyway I hope you enjoy your illegal server when it’s closed down, either by legal action or when someone gets sick of supporting you freeloading thieves.

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Indigo Salma

Pay for something that limits gameplay and entertainment?

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Mewmew

It limits it only if you don’t want to pay for it, and it doesn’t even limit it that much with the free energy refills they give away daily right now in the Cash Shop.

You don’t have the rights to play and use their stuff for free. It is their product, they get to set the rules for it.

Maybe one day you’ll grow up and see you don’t have the right to illegally use any product you feel like, either because you get caught and face consequences, or lose out on all the time and energy spent playing on the whims of those running private servers, or you just simply “grow up” and realize it’s not your right.

You can laugh all you want and that’s fine, it *is* your right to go away and not take part in using the product at all. It’s not at all your right to steal from the game industry for your own selfish reasons, which is what you and those like you are doing.

It’s not your right to steal their code, their game, and use it how you want. You use it within the rules or don’t use it at all, that’s the reality for the legality of currently running online games.

Enjoy your “10x rates” (not everything is better because it’s easier, I can’t imagine how boring that would be for me) when the server is shut down and no longer exists.

Stealing and illegally using the product is *not* okay if you don’t like how it’s run. But hey thanks for helping to be a cancer and drain on the game and gaming community as a whole.

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Solaris

You can’t reason with a Thief.

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Chosenxeno .

I changed my position. The private version is much better. It exposes how good the game could be if GF didn’t fumble the launch.

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Weilan

I started playing World of Warcraft in 2007, on a private server. I’ve been playing WoW since then, now 11 years, ALWAYS on private servers, the only exception is when Cataclysm came out, there were no private servers and I used the Free Trial to see the new content, because I was curious.

For me playing WoW has always been about private servers and I don’t feel bad about doing it. Even if I had a subscription for retail, I would still prefer private servers. I don’t think it’s stealing and I don’t think it’s against anything if the original publisher (in this case Gameforge with SoulWorker) is being stingy and greedy.

The only times where I don’t play on private servers is where there aren’t such, like in LOTRO or ESO, where I like the games enough to be willing to spend money on them.

That aside, there are many cases where playing on private severs is justified. Like:

1. When you want to experience a previous version of the game (Old School Runescape, Vanilla WoW… there is a F2P MMORPG called Forsaken World that I liked back when it came out, but the current version is not what I like, so if I want to play it, I need a previous version and my only way to do so is playing on private servers)

2. When the game has been shut down and there is literally no other way to play it (Asheron’s Call, Star Wars Galaxies, etc.)

3. Simply because the option is out there. Just because you feel that unless one plays the official server, they should go play in the dirt, doesn’t mean many will share your beliefs. Just because there is a free option out there, many people will take advantage of it. Even some people in USA, where the laws are stricter would still play on private servers.

This “crime” you speak of, is more about acquiring the game client, not playing on a private server, now where you make it connect. But whatever… I live in Easter Europe, one of the biggest piracy hubs, here even infants and seniors pirate, simply because they can and there are no laws against it. I know what you will say about this, but this only reminds me about the Aesop fable about the Fox and the Sour Grapes.

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kgptzac

I’ll be the devil’s advocate. If everyone is like this guy who opt to play a f2p game on a private server, then I’ll bet my two cents that the official publisher will look at their financial sheet very hard, and make some adjustments, which would ultimately benefits like myself who want to have fun and support a good–and only a good–product.

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Chosenxeno .

Yes. I’m serious. You clearly like the product enough to track down a Private server. It clearly has provided you some enjoyment. You can tell yourself what you want but there is a term for what you are doing. It’s called: Stealing. But, have a way with your bs justifications:)

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Indigo Salma

That statement literally didn’t answer to the question at hand , you like limitations and lack of freedom in gameplay? So your judgement is that numb to the way they are treating the game that you literally don’t see the actual problem here.
Yes , i like the product without the stamina system. If it didn’t have that i would have played it on the official server. But since they kept it and built a cash shop around it as well, i suddenly don’t feel like supporting the publisher. The only publisher that surprised me with their actions was SecretWorld with RustyHearts. They removed the stamina and you could play whenever and how long you wanted.

So please, keep defending them. I’l keep supporting the private server for how long its gonna be online, honestly i don’t mind if it shuts down in a few months, but i’l never play or support originals with bullshit systems like these.

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Chosenxeno .

I play solo mostly. So the energy system lasts me a pretty good while. I don’t feel limited. Secondly, There is Steel Graves, PVP and Alts for when you are out of Energy. There is no justification for what you are doing. There are in-game options for when you run out of energy on your main. Nice try though….thief…

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k2apa

ROFL, you do realize almost any game out there have Private server right? and there are thousands of people playing on them.

There’s a reason for those Private servers, to avoid P2W. Which if you look at past games, most P2W games dies out and only Private servers flourish.

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Chosenxeno .

Yet another thief trying to justify theft. There’s nothing you can say to make this not stealing. I dunno why you even responded to this p[ost. Stealing is stealing is stealing is stealing is..

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Chosenxeno .

You were right. Burning is better lol. I switched. YOU WILL TELL NO ONE i SAID THIS! GF version was too greedy. It’s not stealing for me I put 300 USD into my character >.> I’m not opposed to spending but sheesh. This was just the 1st 55 tier lol. I could solo every Rookie. They just got Ele raids. Not going to bother even testing. Taking my business elsewhere:P

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Vorender

This game is no where near ready, even for alpha.

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Yangers

its Gameforge . What did people expect. Its why i went back to the JP servers.

Its funny. I staretd a new Stella there and immediately was showered with tons of free stuff. Its so much better, and you no longer need a vpn.

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Darthbawl

Oh my. I’ve seen previous games with a similar energy system and IMNSHO those types of systems are the pits. Glad some people are focusing on that.

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Zaikurron

hope they dont do what nexon and other companies have done with stamina systems where you can play all day but exp gain and drop rates are abysmal in return thats even worse tbh it let bots run free even more