On this special edition of the podcast, Justin and Bree lay out the Daybreak fiasco, taking you through the events of the last three days, and contemplating the future for this once-great studio.
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Get caught up on the whole Daybreak/Columbus Nova ordeal:
Daybreak update: Renova boss questioned over Columbus Nova’s alleged payment to Michael Cohen
Daybreak: Here’s where the EverQuest franchise, DCUO, PlanetSide 2, H1Z1, and Just Survive stand
The Daily Grind: Do you buy the Daybreak-owns-Standing Stone Games rumor?
EverQuesting: Columbus Nova or not, Daybreak is tying its own noose
Massively OP Podcast Episode 167: Daybreaking news
Daybreak has now been hit with layoffs [Confirmed]
Leaderboard: Does the Daybreak fiasco affect whether you play its MMOs?
Daybreak update: Chief Publishing Officer Laura Naviaux has left the company
Daybreak says it has ‘no affiliation’ with Columbus Nova, the company it said bought it in 2015
Maybe it is just me but this situation doesn’t sound so different from businesses that are used to launder money. It would sure explain some of the unbelievable business decisions that have been made over the last several years. Either way my heart goes out to all those who lost their jobs.
I do believe that the layoffs were planned. I wish I could believe that the ownership issues were just incompetence, but at the very least there was deliberate deception at the outset, obscuring sale of the company to a different party than claimed in the press releases and news coverage. The timing of the revelation of the “truth” is obviously tied to the Russian sanctions; I doubt that we’d ever have learned about it otherwise.
Maybe Daybreak will have to sell the EQ franchise for peanuts and some excellent devs will make EQIII!!!
…a guy can dream, can’t he?
It was one of the best episodes of Massively OP Podcast :D
We need more special episodes! You should call them: “Kerfluffle in the news” and record it whenever something big is happening with focus on that subject :)
I really laughed when they used the words “Kerfuffle” and “Kerfluffle” (they are two alternate spellings for the same word).
I have a Beastmaster in EQ2 called “Clusterfluff,” and her pet is called “Kerfluffle!” It just struck me as a little bit of deja’ vu. Eq2 is the only game I use that name in.
I am seriously using kerfluffle in my life. I already used kerfuffle, and this one is so much FLUFFIER!
Very interesting episode and I hope we see more specials in future, It all pretty much stinks and I do not believe columbus nova never owed the company and it was all big misunderstanding.
This is panic stations and headless chickens, new owner or same owner with the loss of backing/gangster money hence the layoffs.
I am hoping they do get bought out by a other company who will show everquest 2 the love it desperately needs as its an amazing IP that was once up there with wow and is currently fading away and sinking like a stone with a total lack of quality investment over the years and poor free to play implementation.
Dam even EQ Next could be back on the cards.
I think we are more likely to discover Atlantis than EQ Next coming back.
Yeah. EQNext’s problems were a) the storybricks technology wasn’t close to doing what they wanted it to and b) the destructible voxel concept wasn’t ever going to work very well in an MMO.
If there is another EQNext it will be essentially a competely new project starting all over again.
A lot of wishful thinking going on at the end of this podcast. Swallowing the line that these were preplanned layoffs makes you look very naive.
Sorry #i didn’t plan that to sound quite so rude but I can’t edit it. Great podcast :)
I dunno– the layoffs might have been spurred forward by Epstein’s crazy wrangling to get out of the US government’s Russian Oligarch net (and I suspect a lot of the internet wiping from Renova, CN etc. and even maybe the official Daybreak ones were actually by him), but in retrospect, H1Z1 has been in hot water for a really long time.
Think about how long PubG and Fortnite have been kicking H1Z1’s butt– and how much more incredibly popular they are. Fortnite alone is the most popular console game *of all time* both in downloads and income. Compare this to H1Z1’s numbers.
Daybreak tends to drag its feet with layoffs and game shutdowns, actually, supporting games way longer than it should (Vanguard and Free Realms immediately come to mind here) but that’s something I sort of always admired about them: they will try to keep them going as long as humanly possible before they shutter them. (And they are cool enough to have actually set up a deal for EQ1 emu Project 99 so it could *keep running* right alongside Daybreak’s own official Everquest 1, which still gets regular updates, never mind that they have always turned a blind eye to emus like SWG, the Matrix Online, etc.! Contrast this to the kamikaze Cease & Desist b.s. other companies like NCSoft pull on the emus of their *killed off, shuttered, buried MMOs* that no one can ever play again otherwise!)
Moreover, as much of a mess as the NGE was, SWG didn’t even get shut down by SOE: It really got shut down by LucasArts. When SW: The Old Republic was getting close to launch, it was either made too cost prohibitive to renew SWG’s Star Wars license, or SWG was just not allowed to renew at all, to make way for SW: The Old Republic.
So H1Z1’s days have really been numbered for ages now. It just seems like it took this whole Russian Oligarch/Columbus Nova thing to bring it to a head. That’s what it looks like to me, anyway. I’m not saying Epstein isn’t doing the Irish Jig trying to avoid getting dragged through whatever fate awaits Columbus Nova, but H1Z1 unfortunately seems like it has needed pruning back for a long while.
I think there are still some significant proceedings to take place. I think the fire is far from out.
From the horses mouth (we all believe this don’t we):
Yep, this is the “miscommunication” post we were talking about, the one where they’re saying everything is fine and the press is rumormongering, an hour before layoffs.
One of the many signs that Daybreak has become a shitty company is the way they make their community people bold face lye like that, right up until the hour before they finally actually admit to something.
I still remember Dexella’s cheery message to the Landmark community when SOE was sold. Saying it would be “business as usual, and in fact things would be better”. And then half the company gets fired.
In her defense, I bet that’s exactly what Columbus Nova told them as the sale happened. ;)
Can somebody give me the skinny?
Good recap, thx for that.
Stay sharp, cut through the smoke screen and don’t get tempted to believe what you prefer to believe.
One thing is DBG saying it was all a case of “miscommunication”.
But there is another party here that never debunked the acquisition story…Columbus Nova.
No disrespect to MOP’s sources, afterall much of this story relies on them, but nobody can make me believe that DBG and CN both forgot to correct what was reported.
Plus the then DBG CEO coming out and announcing it.
Think clear, don’t get lulled in.