Thousands of WoW Classic fans replicate the ‘fresh start server’ that Blizzard won’t make

    
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One of the hoped-for announcements about WoW Classic failed to materialize at this past month’s BlizzConline. Some fans were hoping that among all of the server adjustments for Burning Crusade Classic, Blizzard would have announced brand-new fresh start servers, but it’s a no go on that (at least for the time being).

Of course, that didn’t stop the Classic community from coming up with its own unique solution. Over 2,400 players at the time of this writing have banded together for an effort called The Fresh Crusade. This initiative, which kicks off this Friday, March 5th, will see all of these players flood onto a low-population European PvP server to start together from scratch.

“We currently have seven guilds, people from all over the world, and a great spirit ready to roll onto a low population PvP server and create a fresh experience where we will help build up the community leading us into [Burning Crusade],” said one of the organizers. “It’s definitely worth checking out if you want a fresh style experience. are looking to get back into the game or just reroll and find a community.”

The Fresh Start initiative is being organized on Discord, so if you’re interested in participating, head on over and join the movement!

Source: Discord via Eurogamer
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EmberStar

I don’t see the appeal? But it’s apparently a PVP thing, so clearly I lack any relevant context for this.

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Patric Spooner

Anyone still interested in classic has literally nothing else to do if they’ve kept up with content. Even the idea that it’s for pvper’s seem kind of absurd because they were would be artificially increasing the difficulty in ranking up. The vast majority of players in polls I have seen were not planning on restarting classic or diving their time once tbc is released.

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Jack Pipsam

You know, community events like this is a cool way to organically boost up a population of a smaller server, that’s pretty cool.

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2Ton Gamer

I get the argument that fresh BC servers do not make sense because the original did not have fresh servers, except that this is different and it was actually one of the survey questions so people who did not want to play Classic, but do want to play BC, thought that maybe there would be fresh servers so that everyone could start together, which does make sense in that light and is something they should honestly do.

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agemyth 😩

I don’t understand the appeal, but it seems like MMO and ORPG developers should just have “seasonal” servers running constantly for people who enjoy fresh starts or people just looking for a good point to jump in with a community of like-minded folks. At the end of a season just dump all the characters into the “normal” servers like ARPGs like Diablo and now Path of Exile do.

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Will Hughes

But what about the community on the server they’re overtaking? Is the attitude just “screw those guys, I want this”?

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Greaterdivinity

…but why? That doesn’t mirror what happened in classic -> BC in the past.

I guess Blizzard could theoretically run a set of “progression” servers like what EQ1/2 does, but that’s a different beast than their classic servers.

IMO they’re already doing right by folks by letting them cap their characters in classic or decide to move to TBC. That’s solid as it continues to preserve the “classic” experience (now with all? the content released) while continuing to roll out other old expansions folks want to play. I imagine they’ll do the same for BC -> LK when that happens…and then it’s gonna be a weird, hyper-fragmented playerbase between live/classic/BC/LK/whatever other expansions they roll out.

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Holden Nagata

they’ve said that the classic-redos will only be 2 at one time; so if LK gets a classic version then there’ll only be TBC classic and LK classic.

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styopa

From what I’ve seen, it’s largely PVP players whose focus on the game is more about competition.

I don’t get it, myself, but I know some players who are always remonstrating for a fresh re-start so they too can be on the cutting edge of competition.

It actually makes perfect sense, in their context.

What I see is that it points DIRECTLY to how fundamentally flawed the shoehorning of PVP into WoW always was. OF COURSE the accumulative-over-time model of PvE WoW is the square peg to the round hole of actually-competitive-online play.

You don’t start a chess match with 3 extra pawns or a rook that can move twice because you’ve been playing for 16 years. You don’t start a basketball game with a bigger hoop 6″ lower because you beat your last 12 opponents.
NO: an intrinsic function of competitive game play is that the match ends, someone wins, and THEN YOU START OVER at the starting line again, equals.

MMO play* is the exact opposite …. you play and play and play and play incrementally increasing your capabilities and power over long spans of time. Any advantage results in a spiral, granting you ceteris paribus the ability to win more and gain more advantage.

Who would want to play tennis where the other guy/gal gets a bigger racket and smaller court lines on their side because they’ve been playing for 10 years?
That would be stupid, and anathemic to competition where players skill is supposed to be the commanding factor in victory.

*maybe this is behind Blizzard’s stupid commitment to borrowed power. It’s a compromise “reset” mechanism that of course doesn’t solve anything and just dissatisfies everyone.

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Harbinger_Kyleran

You are arguing that MMORPG PVP gameplay is supposed to be a competitive “sport,” with rules to keep everything fair.

I’ve always preferred it to be more like open warfare, with no quarter asked for or given. (aka EVE Online)

To each his own, but I’m never taking a knife into a gunfight, just saying.

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styopa

Actually, I’m not arguing anything. I’m pointing out that there’s a reasonable view point in favor of COMPETITIVE pvp, and that you can’t really fault people for not wanting to keep presenting themselves to be beaten up if the other side has accumulated vast advantages.

Even in “open warfare” as you claim, SOMEONE eventually wins, or the other guys go away.

Eve isn’t nearly as cutthroat as people make it seem.
There’s still plenty of guardrails keeping peoples’ isk, ships, etc safe from actual open pvp, the swaggering jocks bragging about how hardcore the pvp is as they safely log off when they don’t want to play any more. (shrug)

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Dug From The Earth

Classic hasnt even been out for 2 years and people are already needing a fresh start?

Or is this in reference to a fresh start BC server, where you start at 1 and have to play through classic to get to BC first?

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Ken from Chicago

It’s a *fresh* fresh start. 👍🤣

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Bruno Brito

You should see how this garbage F R E S H mindset hurt the pserver community.

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Harry Koala

To be fair, it was the same in vanilla WoW back in 2006 : there was always a very vocal minority demanding that Blizzard create new servers for them to start fresh on, on a more or less continual basis. It isn’t something that only came along with private servers.

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Schmidt.Capela

Vanilla had servers being created all the time. Not because Blizzard wanted to promote the “start fresh anew” mindset, but because back then WoW’s player base was increasing by leaps and bounds.

AFAIK this kind of player caused a big headache for Blizzard when it comes to balancing server populations, mind. While they aren’t even close to being the majority of players, those fresh server-craving players seem to be numerous enough to often be the majority of players on new servers — meaning as soon as they lost interest in the old server and moved to a newer one the old server was left with low population, lack of active guilds, and a barely functional economy.

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Bruno Brito

Which becomes a cycle. Right now, the more older figures of the community HATE these “f r e s h e r s”.

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Bruno Brito

That’s the point, it’s not a “vocal minority” anymore. Servers get created all the time and the population rotates between them because they had a taste of how booming the early days are. This hurt the staying power of servers a lot. It’s also the major driving force in creating servers nowadays.

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Alyn

It is what it is, I suppose. I have “lost that lovin’ feeling for Activision-Blizzard a while ago. Playing Classic didn’t really soothe the ache.

Nope Acti-Blizz I’m not bringin’ it back-

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Vanquesse V

Blizz does not want to split people’s attention for BC classic. They need a big number to show off to prove how successful it is. So it’s very important that vanilla classic is as boring as humanly possible in the month(s) leading up to BC launch.
I would be shocked if they don’t make new classic servers eventually though – after all Everquest owes most of its modern success to the yearly (or so) restarts