Star Citizen talks up land vehicle physics changes as CIG devs rebut claims of mistreatment during Texas snowstorm

    
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While Star Citizen certainly loves its spaceships, there are a number of land-based vehicles that deserve love too, and that’s just what the latest Inside Star Citizen video provides as it outlines changes to vehicle physics that are in the works that are intended to be more sim-focused instead of arcadey. Players can soon expect tires to operate more realistically, a better camera view, UI improvements, and of course new vehicles like the Tumbril Nova tank and the Cyclone-MT anti-aircraft buggy.

In the second half of the video, we get another sprint report that outlines tweaks to certain refinery decks to make them more utilitarian like the removal of plants, benches, and advertisements; selectable lighting options in habs; further whitebox previews of hospitals and planetary outposts; and some lighting and effects work to improve lightning visuals.

In other Star Citizen news, there’s a piece on Kotaku regarding CIG’s Austin office, with six sources claiming the company mistreated them during the Texas snowstorm. Claims include office managers instructing employees to work through the storm or to use up paid time off to fill gaps they can’t report in to work; an overall lack of communication; a refusal to temporarily shut the studio down even as other larger companies shut down their operations in Texas; and a claim that upper executives were unaware of how dire the situation in Texas was, along with other CIG offices generally being unaware or otherwise dismissive of the situation.

“Head leadership for the company never appeared to acknowledge that we even faced a natural disaster and seemed to completely neglect to communicate our situation to other studios,” one source claimed. “This lack of awareness was evidenced when some of us were discussing the aftermath of the storm, and coworkers from another studio location asked if we had been dealing with tornadoes.” Another source said that comments from other CIG offices stated that employees in Austin “just wanted a snow day.”

The claims made by these sources were rebutted by a number of CIG devs, who were claiming that their experience with leadership was completely different, that the situation was regularly discussed in meetings, and that managers even reached out with offers of aid. “I have been with Cloud Imperium Games for 6 years now, and this company has been nothing but supportive and understanding. They have helped me through some tough times in ways no other company has,” claims one of CIG’s QA testers. “I had our studio manager even personally reach out to me to check up on me to see if everything was okay. I had my direct managers offering anything I needed and never had to use PTO for the storm. All for clicks though, I am sure.”

sources: YouTube, Kotaku, Twitter (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). Cheers, Quavers and Sean.
Longtime MMORPG gamers will know that Star Citizen was originally Kickstarted for over $2M back in 2012 with a planned launch for 2014. As of 2021, it still lingers in an incomplete but playable alpha, having raised around $350M from gamers over years of continuing crowdfunding and sales of in-game ships and other assets. It is currently the highest-crowdfunded video game ever and has endured both indefatigable loyalty from advocates and immense skepticism from critics. A co-developed single-player title, Squadron 42, has also been repeatedly delayed.
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Bruno Brito

Both sides of this story are really weird. While the accusations come from Kotaku and well…Kotaku, i still think they may hold some ground, considering it’s a big company, some things will slip through the cracks.

But the people who are denying, i won’t even go into “my experience yaddayadda” naysay, it sounds like a Herbalyfe promo.

“Impossible! CIG rescued my dog! Built my house! Pummeled a mugger for me!”

Like, this is reeeeeally creepy. Also, the fact that EVERYONE who’s defending CIG, even their employees, are attacking the source, tells me a lot about the inner workings and thought processes inside.

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Alberto

People calling out what they feel is untrue, or what they straight up believe is a lie is somehow Creepy to you? Who else would they attack, the place that has Regularly created Click Bait stories about multiple companies not just CIG or the Mysterious Employees? The entire story has so many holes in it , including videos on Twitter BEFORE the story happened by CIG employees thanking CIG for offering assistance both during Covid-19 and the Texas power outage.

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Bruno Brito

People calling out what they feel is untrue, or what they straight up believe is a lie is somehow Creepy to you? Who else would they attack, the place that has Regularly created Click Bait stories about multiple companies not just CIG or the Mysterious Employees?

They could…attack no one? That’s literally my point. CIG being on the crossfire doesn’t mean it’s employees are. But when it comes to CIG, everyone behaves like a cult ( including your own behavior here ), so i don’t expect better from them.

It’s extremely creepy, yes. And no ammount of you denying it will change that.

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Steve Frank

Gaming is the last.place a good developer should strive to work. Less money, bad benefits and dopey management.

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Peregrine Falcon

Innocent until PROVEN guilty. I don’t just automagically believe these accusations. Especially since there are others saying that this didn’t happen.

One of the accusations is that the people offices in other states weren’t made aware of how bad the situation was in Texas. Impossible. What happened in Texas was all over the news for 2 weeks. There’s no way the higher-ups at CIG couldn’t have known how bad it was.

Nothing about these accusations makes any sense, and I don’t believe them.

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MothballShow

“Well, they were never bad to me, so we can obviously dismiss the complaints of people who don’t want to be named out of fear they will face repercussions” is piss-poor damage control.

Even weirder are the backers who are rushing to defend CIG.

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StuartGT

FWIW the Star Citizen Leaks discord, which gets a lot of inside information (mostly accurate but a few times not) say that “I can verify some of the details of the Kotaku article with some of my sources (who are primarily newer employees)”, “it clearly didn’t affect everyone”, and “that this was a problem that affected a few employees and should still be treated as the problem it is”

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MothballShow

Honestly, CIG dropped the ball on this one. Not just on how they handled their response, but they missed a golden opportunity to garner goodwill from employees, backers, and prospective hires alike by not doing a “Look how awesome, understanding, and generous we are in these trying times” motion to support employees in Austin at the time of the storm.

They would’ve been at least on par with EA, who actually listened to the concerns of their employees during the storm.

But as per usual, they waited until after the fact to respond and ended up punching themselves in the face doing so.

They need a better marketer/public relations person.

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Tee Parsley

Don’t know about the marketeer part of that: Their marketing is pretty stellar!

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Alberto

The entire story sounded really implausible..it sounded a lot like the fake Glassdoor Report someone took the time to write and then Glassdoor had to retract as the actual Person got in contact with them to let them know it was all bs. Kotaku got taken for a ride, and they are more then happy to jump on any Click Bait garnering story..

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MothballShow

Knowing that management at any sizable organization can make grave missteps with employees – especially when branches/studios are in different regions – this doesn’t sound anymore implausible than the failure in the public sector that made the impact of the storm worse.

As readers, we have a choice to believe CIG (like any company) is capable of messing up, and in-turn believe the claims of employees until evidence comes out to disprove their statements (and no, “some employees were treated well” doesn’t cut it as proof).

Or we can say, “Well the public-facing employees and Tyler said everything was cool, so let’s dismiss possibly legitimate claims of mismanagement in a crisis.”

Let’s say, just for a second, that this really happened. How would you feel as one of the people who made the claim if you were reading comments like, “This is absurd and didn’t happen. It’s from Kotaku after all, so it’s not like it matters?”

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Alberto

They DID , there are twitter videos by Wakapedia a CIG employee who’s house Flooded during the storm, and BEFORE this story came out, explaining how great CIG was and how Management, Immediately called him and asked him how they could help and what does he need. There are all kinds of twitters from CIG employees thanking CIG for sending them care packages during Covid. But you don’t see those kinds of stories those don’t get you clicks. CIG has done some Bone headed moves in the past but this doesn’t sound like them at all. Which is why CIG have so many people defending them including multiple employees. Too many people want to Jump on any negative salacious BS rumors’ nowadays.

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Bree Royce

We cover stories about MMO studios lending aid during crises quite frequently. We even have a dedicated column for them. You’ve been here a super long time so you probably know this. :D

It seems key to reconcile that some devs were treated well by some CIG management and others weren’t by some management. One doesn’t invalidate the other. It’s a big studio; it’d be harder to believe it doesn’t have a few problematic managers up the chain. Who hasn’t had that kind of boss? I sure have.

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Bruno Brito

Another day, another dog defending corporate oppression.

Whate else is new.

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Joe Blobers

LOL… and now CIG become The Evil corporate torturing poor defenseless devs because some anon source.

At worst, IF remotely True, this is a momentary misunderstanding and or misjudgement about an exceptional situation by a very limited number of manager (more than 1?) affecting few employees.

According to multiple source from CIG employees flagged as such not anon, CIG demonstrated over years they care about their employees around the world and they did handle the Texas situation to ensure right decision was taken immediately or after a very short period of times.

Not even the beginning of a drama. Nobody is defending corporate oppression.

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Bruno Brito

And of course you’re this disgusting. Here i was thinking that you would at least once reconsider your position if this shit, which is a problem with the whole industry, happened.

But no. Blobers need to defend CIG, no matter what. Who gives a shit if rank-and-file get oppressed. You’re in for the full ride, aren’t you?

You fucking disgust me, you reprobate. You’re a miserable speck in this god-forsaken earth, and if something will make me sleep well tonight is the thought that you’re known for being a zealot sheep that can’t do anything right and is a waste of breath.

Parasite.

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Joe Blobers

I said the very opposite: Oppressing is bad but as per facts from real person not anon source that could be you by the way… (because anon right?) they are doing pretty well with their employees… which was the point of this very article title.

Taking this very case to compare it with real industry oppression against worker is terribly weak.

CIG as a company is not oppressing employees and IF a manager did it my mistake or intentionally, that was under control under a matter of couple days.

Under control is what employees are looking for at the end because this is the opposite of oppression :”prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or exercise of authority”

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MothballShow

You do realize anonymous sources are protected, because when they make their names known, they become open to repercussions from their employers and (as has been shown over the years) rabid fans and detractors?

You have a choice to accept that these claims might be true, or you can dismiss them, thereby saying it’s okay if people anywhere are mistreated, unless they come forward and use their real names. It’s a very toxic stance to take, Joe, and how you can’t see that is beyond me.

Your permissiveness and siding with management, and dismissiveness of the claims people made because they didn’t feel comfortable outing themselves is exactly why anonymity exists regarding whistleblowers.

Also, “a matter of days” is crucial in this instance in pointing to how potentially bad the break in communication was, as people in Texas were without heat or water. A couple of days is too long.

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Bree Royce

Yeah, this is important. Kotaku would’ve verified they are who they say they are before going ahead with the story (that’s why you try to get multiple people to confirm it, and they did that too). The sources’ identity is simply not being made public because of the obvious potential for retaliation.

It’s a cheap trick to pretend that “rando anon spouting off on Reddit” and “vetted sources whose identities are being protected by a journalist” have the same level of credibility.

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Bruno Brito

You do realize anonymous sources are protected, because when they make their names known, they become open to repercussions from their employers and (as has been shown over the years) rabid fans and detractors?

Is that even a real question? Look at the answers from CIG employees themselves. They literally attack the media outlet that outed this info, without any second thought. What would happen if the names were disclosed?

CIG has the structure of a corporation, has the inner workings of a corporation, and has the funding of a corporation. It also has similar PR.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…

But yeah, i expected better from you, Blobers. Way better. From all your shortcomings ( which, Jesus, a long list indeed ), this one was something i wished it wasn’t there.

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Joe Blobers

You are reading only what you want to read MothballShow.
Sounds like you are one of those managers not listening and taking path that should have not been taken if they care and lesson more :)

We are weeks after this and still nobody know if those source are legit… but we know none anonymous employees said the opposite.

So now managers are supposed to bring water and electricity to their employees?
Either you are a local manager in the same situation and can just ask for regular update or you are far away and you can’t help at all.

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MothballShow

Nobody is defending corporate oppression.

Prefaces the quote with statements about how this is a momentary misunderstanding and claims that CIG cares about their employees.

These two things are contradictory.

By not understanding the conditions in Texas at the time, you are giving CIG a pass for not being proactive about ALL employees. You are saying the few who were affected didn’t really matter in the larger scheme.

If you DO understand what occurred in Texas, then the stance you are taking is beyond deplorable.

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Joe Blobers

Quote: “You are saying the few who were affected didn’t really matter in the larger scheme”

Not at all. I say:
– We don’t know if anon source are real CIG employees,
– We know real employees said the opposite,
IF partially or totally true, it affected an extremely limited number of employees and the situation have received appropriate answers from management. Simple common sense: Few is better than many but worst than none.

When a plane crash killing 5 passengers instead of 300 hundred, it is still a tragedy for the 5 but 295 are more than happy and will take a plane another day.
The crew took all reasonable steps to take off and land safely from the very beginning of the flight. He did not plan to hurt anyone.

There is no contradiction.
CIG do care about employees, this is a fact.
But it is possible that over a decade period, once in a while a situation was not fully understood by a manager. He may have took an inappropriate decision… before revising his position after hours/days.

By the way, parents do care about their child’s right?… Now take the time to read newspapers and you will discover real drama (serious wound or decease) of child’s that were badly hurt because their parent did not took the perfect decision, underestimated risks or consequences.

Cross the street and tell to those parents they don’t care about their child’s… and prepare to run.

There is a difference between a full company staff with an oppression plan toward employees and this situation based on source that may very well be totally not legit…

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Bree Royce

ffs joe

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MothballShow

You’re making a false equivalence.

In the business world, if someone is on the receiving end of harassment from someone above them, would they feel comfortable coming forward without any guaranteed protections? Or would they prefer to speak anonymously to the press or someone else who could give them a platform?

Further, because they came forward anonymously, should their claims be dismissed? Or would you prefer them to name themselves and face whatever retaliation their company had in store?

Again, you are making the choice to not believe those making claims that CIG management messed up, and are dismissive of the ramifications of both why people would seek anonymity and the fact that CIG is very fallible, like many companies.

TBH, it’s a bad choice and a bad look.

(BTW quite a few parents are just horrible.)

EDIT: I will never understand your weird pleas for “CIG exceptionalism.”

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Bruno Brito

There is a difference between a full company staff with an oppression plan toward employees and this situation based on source that may very well be totally not legit…

Have you ever heard of the concept of NEGLIGENCE?

Or are you so far up Robert’s colon that you can’t find a book about one of the most common occurrances under worker law?

By the way, parents do care about their child’s right?… Now take the time to read newspapers and you will discover real drama (serious wound or decease) of child’s that were badly hurt because their parent did not took the perfect decision, underestimated risks or consequences.

Cross the street and tell to those parents they don’t care about their child’s… and prepare to run.

I’m not even going on how this is a really bad equivalence, and i’ll just say this:

90% of parents in this world are dogshit, and i blame that on cultural issues. I know brazilian parents for a fact should never be allowed to have kids because we, as a country, still believe the catholic concept of physical punishment.

We also wouldn’t have overpopulation issues if we didn’t culturalize and pressure pregnancy and motherhood as blessings, instead, letting women choose their own path and building their own skillsets as their own person.

So, yeah, fuck that family. I’m highly sure that because it’s you who’s defending them, they must have quite a few skeletons in their closet.