$100K Star Citizen whale discusses why he supports the game – and what he’s worried about

    
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For those who orbit Star Citizen news and are aghast at why its business model — a winner of this site’s Worst Business Model award for four years running — keeps on raking in money, you might be interested in hearing the thoughts of one of the game’s whales who was interviewed by the folks at BoredGamer.

The whale in question is a man by the name of JP, who has spent around $100K on the game, first backing the project in 2017 to the tune of $5,100. JP was running a tech company at the time and is a software engineer by trade, so he considers $100K “not a significant amount of money if you consider Vegas”; he’s not a fan of gambling but has had family members burn $25K on one hand of blackjack.

According to JP, the fact that the game is still developing is one of the attractions, as he likes being able to hunt down bugs, on top of just generally liking internet spaceships — both of which are primary reasons why he’s spent so much money. He also admits that he likes collecting every ship in the game in spite of the fact that he tells himself he’ll stop spending money. He also doesn’t consider the game pay-to-win since CIG continually balances ships over the course of development.

This spending on pixel ships isn’t done without some concern for Star Citizen as a game. JP states in the interview that he’s worried that certain gameplay loops will make the game not fun — Death of a Spaceman is called out as one specific concern — and he also considers the game’s dynamic events a little superfluous, calling them a way to generate FOMO syndrome although he’s not against their revenue generating potential since he himself is a capitalist. He also calls the game’s development pace “frustrating” and would like CIG to work more on backend technology.

“I wish there was a funding model that made sense where I could pledge for game functionality other than just ships. It would be great if I could be like ‘Hey, I really love trade. How do I spend $700 so that it’s going to trade beyond just buying a ship?’ The current funding model scares me because I feel like they have to keep on pumping out more and more ships. […] As they keep adding more ships, that’s more code for them to maintain, that’s more objects for them to maintain, more entries, more everything.”

It’s an extremely insightful and honest interview, which you can watch in full below.

source: YouTube, thanks to Eggbert for the tip!
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MilitiaMasterV

I mean, yeah, spending that kind of money on a game does really just amount to blatant stupidity, but whatever, brag about it why don’t you?

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Aldristavan

Late-Stage Capitalism has entered the chat.

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Narficus

SC Whale: “I spent $100k!”
SotA Cultist: “LOL, what a casual.”

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camelotcrusade

This just in, some people don’t deserve what they have. But if that’s true, then shouldn’t we be happy if they’re losing it?

I guess two wrongs don’t make a right, because nothing about this story makes me happy.

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Michael18

Regarding p2w:
Do people still get their ships with LTI? Or did they stop that?

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Bannex

I can’t imagine ever thinking anything about gaming would be worth 100k. Justify this all you want but it’s flat out dumb af unless he’s getting some sort of profit sharing or equity in the company.

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Utakata

I guess JP doesn’t match Mr. Oleg’s initials… >.>

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Oleg Chebeneev

Ive spent 40$ and never felt that I need to spend more.

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Utakata

…I spent nothing posting this dig though. /shrug

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Joe Blobers

One guy out of 1 million. Is it an insane amount of money for the vast majority of individuals? yes absolutely
Is it insane for this guy who can spend the same amount and more in Vegas casinos ? no it is not

In 2018, commercial casino gaming revenue amounted to about $41.7 billion in US only. it’s in your best financial interest not to walk into that casino and place the bet—the math simply isn’t your friend.
As per @Nebuchidnezzar, he buys and sells, he’s very active on the grey market, making profit.

So between two choices I pick CIG anytime… for a more modest contribution :)

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Tee Parsley

I dunno….in the Casino, the games actually work.

And you know the real odds of actually getting something back.

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Joe Blobers

Correct. They are excellent at ripping you off your wallet for few hours or even minutes depending on your wallet size.
Try to have hundreds hours of entertainment in casinos with 45 $ :)

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Estranged

Nickel video poker.

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Joe Blobers

Show valid source of pourcentage of nickel video poker lasting for hundred hours with 45$
On average 5000 coins cost 250$. That is already 5.5 times more than SC, knowing a coin can be consumed every 3 or 4 seconds…

That said, good for those enjoying it, at least they got free drink for only 250$ :)

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Estranged

Joe, the average win rate on video poker is 48%, you forgot to factor that into your tirade.

$50/$.05=1000 coins

for every 1000 coins played, you on average would win 960 coins. Then you are awarded comps for gambling, no matter if you win or lose, which is also worth $. Yes, then you receive free drinks.

It takes hours for me to spend $50, but usually receive $75-$100, including winnings plus food and drinks. Those buffets are damn good and are $25-$30 retail.

I basically started with $100 a decade ago and haven’t finished spending it as of yet.

Professionals actually can make a living playing video poker, versus giving Chris Roberts their funds with no recourse.

Nobody plays every 3-4 seconds, you actually have to make decisions, versus a slot machine.

So my personal experience is that gambling can be far more rewarding than contributing to CR’s delusional dream.

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Joe Blobers

Thanks Estranged for this complementary information. I respect your choice. Who I am to tell you not to enjoy a 48% ratio… minus free drink and meal.

That leave people some more option:

– travel to a casino to enjoy free drinks and meals while pushing on virtual cards every xx seconds,

– Stay home to enjoy anytime what they pledged for, while playing with multiple digital ships, vehicles, characters in various environment, solo or with friends while contributing to build the game they want to play, not interested by any casino proposal or to spend cash to travel to a casino.

The best is that each one is free to do both!

With a slight difference: SC do have a 30 days refund policy + several weeks of test/play every year before you even decide to pledge.
I don’t remember casino offer refund on paid coins or give players free test/play several week per year.

To each its dream or definition of ambition.

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Estranged

How about past 30 days? Whoops.

Most casinos give you some free play for opening an account.

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Joe Blobers

Cool. But still no casino refund policy? Does the free play last several weeks per year every year?

Don’t feel the need to answer (or do whatever you preference). We know the answer.
Mine is pretty simple:keep enjoy what you are doing. Sincerely!

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wayshuba

This is a poor argument. I am not a big gambler and pretty much only gamble when I vacation in Aruba.

I limit my spending to $40/night in casinos while there.

Last time I was there on my first night at the Alhambra Casino I played roulette. I sat for 7 hours on that $40, drinks were provided free (and I drank more than $40 worth) and finally got bored after all that time and cashed out for $1,080.

When the week was done, I had brought and budgeted $240 for gambling and walked away with a little over $1,800 (and a lot of free drinks for the week).

So casinos can in fact provide hours of entertainment, free booze and have you STILL walk away with more money than you started with.

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Joe Blobers

Of course they can @Wayshuba otherwise nobody will go there.

Now go figure out how they are making so much Billions per year? because the more you play the more you lose and that can’t be dispute by anyone.
This is mathematics proven by facts.

Good you was one of those leaving with more in pocket. Now they expect you to come as soon as possible. Don’t hesitate yours new experiences :)

Complementary information form debt.org:

The gambling industry in the U.S. is estimated to be $110 billion in 2020 and growing. What might be news is that as many as 23 million Americans go into debt because of gambling and the average loss is estimated to be around $55,000.

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Estranged

The more you give CR, the more you lose.

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draugris

I think the correct term for that is Stockholm syndrome

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Tee Parsley

Even the committed superwhales are getting an inkling of Chris Roberts flaws as a CEO/game developer.

But, CR is great at reeling in the money, tru dat.