Kakao’s overhauling ArcheAge Unchained’s business model again – and yes, it has a sub

And here, that's a good thing

    
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With Gamigo’s stewardship of ArcheAge coming to an end, Kakao is setting up shop – and I do mean shop. The game’s new western publisher announced today that it’s making “some pretty significant changes to how the service will be provided, what will be available in the cash shop, and how various functions such as ArchePass and Patron will work.”

Notably, the ArcheAge Unchained version of the game, which has already been badly monetized to the brink of death, is now switching over to a monthly subscription model.

“In order to remove the possibility to increase in-game power with real-life currency, we’ve opted for a monthly subscription method. Many of the previously paid benefits and Marketplace-only items will be automatically included for free or acquired through in-game methods with Manastorm Crystals. This gives even more value to the subscription. Also, any paid items will be purely cosmetic. The monthly subscription will be set at 9.99($,€) for 30 days. A discount can be obtained by purchasing subscriptions for longer periods of time.”

Existing owners of Unchained and its two paid DLC will be compensated in subscription time, up to 150 days for folks who bought it all, on top of 30 days of free trial for everyone.

Kakao also says it’s upgrading the patron system merging it into the sub, abolishing the pay-for-DLC system Gamigo sneaked in after launch, swapping diligence coins for manastorm crystals, and ensuring that the cash shop will focs strictly on cosmetics. The ArchePass will remain, for a cost of 500 loyalty tokens, which are not cash shop currencies; they’re literally login rewards.

In other words, this is kinda what ArcheAge players wanted with Unchained all along.

“We believe that these changes represent the right direction for the vision that many of you had for ArcheAge: Unchained and will contribute to a fairer playing field between new and experienced players,” the studio says. “We’re excited to get started.”

The company has also posted a lengthy document on the switchover, reiterating most of what Gamigo has already explained, confirming the land rushes and clarifying any remaining questions players might have about the transition of their accounts to the new service.

Source: Kakao
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Alex Rowe

Subscription is absolutely justified. The game will flourish after Kakao takes over. WHY ?

1. The game Kakao Games will provide is a new game entirely different from what Gamigo had, aside from sub expense it will have free DLCs, content and events much more often same version as Korean, and tenfold better and more competent support and hack/exploit security.

That means the game you bought is GONE, the new game is entirely different model, the one people back in 2014 asked and begged for, gamigo tried this but they misscalculated and saw they need money, so they not only charged for DLCs but made the game p2w after all.

2. Kakao games gave away up to half a year free sub time to current players… that is more than enough time to keep playing and see if you will like the new version.
They are counting on you seeing all the updates, no-p2w, lots of new content, and very populated servers, to decide and stay playing.

3. Kakao has tons of plans as to change and upgrade the game to a “Seasonal” type so that it potentially becomes much more populated and with constant income of new players.
This seasonal gives you big rewards upon completion of fresh server and once it ends you can take the rewards back to the main server if you choose to stay there, or play another “Rush” to get more rewards and simply enjoy that early phase of the game.

I am only concerned about what will people with 3 accounts do ,since no one in their right mind will pay 30eur sub ,but i overheard there may be character transfers so that players can merge their 3 accounts into 1 single and pay 10eur sub like everyone else.

So do not throw the game under the rails, give it a chance, if you gave a chance to evil Trion, if you gave a chance to Gamigo- publisher known for buying dead titles to make them p2w, give a chance to the respectable publisher like Kakao which actually bought XL games (developer) of Archeage to improve and build on the Archeage world in the future.
That means they invested a whole lot of money to make this work.

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squid

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me eight times, shame on me.

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Loomlore

I bought this game specifically because I didn’t have to pay for a subscription. I have since stopped playing, but I am annoyed at this decision. Won’t play again, I guess.

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Alex Rowe

You did not know than, but you bought p2w game. Gamigo was known for buying dead titles to make them p2w and milk them one last time.
Gamigo made p2w premium Archepass, Gamigo put p2w items on cash shop, Gamigo put p2w items, Beanstalks, Cars on the freaking Glyph store …

New Archeage Unchained will become something very different, use the free time you get to see for yourself.
Kakao games bought XL Games and Korea version of Archeage has exploded.

Sub is paid to keep the p2w out, and constant dlcs, new content, new events, good support in.
If you want to play for free, i suggest any of the private servers, or legacy server, but they are p2w and will stay that way.

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Loomlore

Yeah, I agree, but honestly I’d rather not play MMOs anymore. I am tired of these monetization models. I mostly switched my attention towards games like Dark Souls, or Monster Hunter, which I can buy and enjoy without moral and financial dylemas. Isn’t Elyon by Kakao as well? It’s a pay to win fest over there, from what I’ve watched in YouTube.

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Rob Hagaman

To those saying too little, too late: you do realize that Kakao just got publishing rights to the game, right? As soon as they got the rights, they enact the original vision for the game. Right out of the gates. At least acknowledge that they did the right thing. For me, the sub model and reduction of P2W makes the game more attractive to try out. I’m more willing to pay the value of 2 lattes to try a game for a month, than deal with a P2W borefest. Seems the only ones complaining are the wallet warriors who are upset they won’t have the advantages they shelled out for all to themselves.

(Edited by mod to remove personal attacks.)

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Jon Asgaeroth

AAU was a really mean spirited scam. Don’t like our brutally monetized crap? Here’s a new version to buy that we plan to monetize even more brutally! Now that they chased most of the people they scammed away they’re locking the rest out behind a paywall lol

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Bereman99

Won’t argue that AAU was a trash pile…

But you do realize it was a trash pile courtesy of Gamigo, and this move to a subscription fee is by the new publisher, yes?

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Jon Asgaeroth

Sure, but Cuckao specializes in games with the same type of business models. They just released Elyon which has the same intensely brutal systems that killed AAU. So many of these Asian themed MMO companies can not stop trying to recapture the Lineage magic of squeezing $150,000 out of each individual player that makes it to end game. It is inexplicable, some kind of mass corporate hysteria of missing the forest for the trees.

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Alex Rowe

Why do you think people pay for Final Fantasy XIV sub ?
Constant updates, dlcs, support, 0 p2w, great up to date game with stable, populated servers.

Nothing different with new AAU.

Unless you want the p2w Gamigo version with beanstalks on glyph store, premium p2w archepasses 10eur each and paid dlcs 10eur each back ?

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Jon Asgaeroth

People like FFXIV because it was made by a company that had good intentions. SquareEnix succeeded in spite of making some grave errors in the launch version because they had a players first outlook at every point. Subscription services aren’t a savior of the people, Black Desert has four subscription services now that you must pay concurrently to compete, plus full suite pay to win cash shop. Kakao ran the western servers for almost 4 years and Pearl Abyss had to eject them to try and get the western version under control to be as fair as the Korean version, and that is saying something. Going from Gamingo to Kakao is very unlikely to be helpful to the players.

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styopa

Yes, I’m sure there are legions of people willing to hand them money to play this game.

Then again, Star Citizen: pay money to NOT play a game.

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3lfk1ng

Just a quick FYI, Star Citizen is a playable game, even during development. In fact, it’s even free to try for the next two weeks.

If any journalist could find how $400M wasn’t being reinvested into creating the most deep and innovative PC game ever created, I would love to read it.

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styopa

I think you mistake an alpha with a collection of functional in-game systems with an actual product.

A flushable toilet, two lights that work, some framing and a partial foundation does not equal a “sellable house”. PARTICULARLY when your general contractor has a penchant for passionately adopting whatever new trend he read about this week, and binning everything to 80% start over to include the Next Cool Thing(tm).

If you burned a master of what you have today, is there anyone not already a fan who would pay anything to play it?

But what do I know? I haven’t played it – and won’t – until it’s actually a thing. I know some people here think I despise SC. Not at all, I hope as fervently as anyone that they accomplish everything they intend. I will be one of the early buyers, certainly.

But after 9 years (or according to Roberts, really 12) and $400 million, I grow skeptical that it will ever really materialize.

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Tanek

I’ll just copy/paste my response from August 2019…

“Too little too late here.
And that is if you even believe it will remain without the p2w aspects of the existing game. Given past experience, it seems more likely the game will launch looking pretty good, then will let the store items creep back in after a few months.”

As before, anyone who sticks with this game should not be shocked when the rules and promises keep shifting.

The Daily Grind: Are you up for a buy-to-play ArcheAge?

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partiesplayin

What a bunch of BS !! The game was pitched as buy once play forever. Now you have to sub to the game.. No thanks. I never liked the sun model in any game unless there were the option for lifetime membership. So I guess I won’t be playing Archage ever again.

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Paul

Congrats ;)

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Alex Rowe

You bought p2w game with premium archepasses 10eur each, beanstalks and p2w boxes in glyph store and paid DLCs.

So now with all that gone, and you get half a year free sub from new publisher – which at the same time now owns the XL games -developer, you reminescence how you already bought it.

You bought gamigo crap. Many are happy about the change, things will become clear in just a few months when updates keep pouring to equalise with KR version.

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partiesplayin

My point is I don’t play subscription games unless they offer a lifetime subscription for a one time price . I didn’t played wow or final fantasy 11 or 14 and I won’t be playing pantheon or ashes simply because of the subscription . It’s my personal preference . So in other words Archage unchained is now dead to me and it’s horrible because I already bought the game that I was supposed to have access to for forever as long as the game still existed on steam but now will no longer be able to play unless I pay. It actually feels criminal to me personally.

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laelgon

To me this feels very much like too little, too late. The final time I logged into Unchained, it was dead. There were houses everywhere, but no players and the global chat was completely quiet. Even if Kakao does right by the monetization, I don’t know how they get the playerbase back.

If I may don my tinfoil hat, this is more about Archeage 2 publishing, and trying to garner some good will around that.

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Alex Rowe

Seasonal servers.

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Toy Clown

After reading through all the monetization changes, Kakao appears to be on the right track. I’ve always loved this game, but hated how it was run and that’s what drove me away in the end. I’ll go ahead with the moving process to their services. It will be hard not to take advantage of the free battle pass and paid sub for a few months…. Man, as if I’m not already pulled in several MMO directions!

I admit it, I feel a surge of excitement building.