Conan Exiles makes a bold appeal to builders: Just play in god-mode

    
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Conan Exiles makes a bold appeal to builders: Just play in god-mode

Lest you think that Conan Exiles is just about crushing your enemies and all that, Funcom has a new dev diary out today elucidating the game’s building system. Pure builders should skip the PvP servers, the studio says, and slip into single-player god mode or on a server with super-fast harvesting and crafting speed to focus on creating your very own Sim City in Hyboria.

Players of other sandboxes probably already know the drill: You don’t have to just plunk down prefab stuff and can instead build from the ground up using smaller building blocks. “To build truly creative structures it can be important to use a lot of different building pieces and placeables,” cautions Funcom. “Based on feedback from the community we are making additional building pieces with new shapes so you can make even more creative buildings.”

“You can build almost anything you want in Conan Exiles. If you have the time and patience you can even fill out most of the map with all kinds of buildings, castles and cities. Build a sprawling metropolis filled with thralls dancing in the streets, hammering away at their anvils or standing guard. Or perhaps you want to build a humongous castle, filled with all sorts of rooms and dungeons and even labyrinths.”

In other Conan Exiles news, Funcom teased a new bug-fixing patch for next week and apologized to Chinese players for its recent server snafu, noting that it’s now set up stable servers in the region, several of which are accessible in China proper and should have better ping. It’s also hyped a player post on Reddit that attempts to recreate superheroes inside the game. Earlier this week, the studio promised better communication from the game’s devs in general.

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Robert Mann

Hmmm… but why would we pick this game as opposed to others? Unless the thrall thing, or the IP, is a really big draw to somebody, they can pick up a game with just as much building freedom for less, and with small servers or private as well.

I never got into Conan: Exiles because I felt like I could build as freely or more freely in other places, at lower cost. I love building, but it just never felt like there was a reason outside IP related stuff… and that doesn’t drive me.

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Maggie May

This would be an interesting topic for a post here “Hint Hint”. I’d be pretty interested in hearing more about games, compared to each other, (that are not mine craft) which are best for building. Pvp usually drives me away but I’d love to try a building gathering game that isn’t horribly Grindy and I might even put up with the pvp to try that out. It would need to have more to it than just building though which was why I never got into Landmark.

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Robert Mann

Hmmm… if they do not do so here maybe I’ll make something they can link to. It deserves more than just a small comment.

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Arktouros

This is the actual issue that put me off this game entirely. The default rates to generate resources for second and third tier buildings is just absurdly, obscenely slow. And, if I’m being honest, it’s ultimately what put me off ARK with Tek Tier.

The issue with going into God Mode or tweaking your server to have something like 10x resources etc is there’s no real sense of accomplishment. Part of the sense of accomplishment when building something is the time that building represents to take. However sometimes the game systems are badly balanced and it simply takes too long to do something.

Me having to spend hours sitting in the NW Oasis to farm fiber for bricks or hours camping spiders in the east for silk is kinda crazy. By comparison in ARK I can go do a metal run for 30 minutes, on default rates, and have enough metal to play around with for the rest of the day or multiple days. The default rates on Conan just don’t feel good.

And this is their response. Well rent your own server or play single player, cheat into God mode and give you all the resources you ever want. Thanks Funcom. Wonderful, tone deaf advice.

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Kawaii Five-O

What in the world are you using that much silk for? Even for decorations and crafting/maintaining Ymir light armor (which is really only useful early game in the desert), you shouldn’t need that much.

Are you confusing ichor and silk maybe? If that’s the case, ichor has been made significantly easier to obtain thanks to fish traps and the fluid press. You need never farm spiders to make hardened brick again.

I do agree that the default rates are perhaps a little low, but I find that just x2 resources feels about right. The bigger issue is item deterioration, which is far too quick by default and requires you to constantly have to maintain your gear by carrying around loads of mats with you and forcing you to farm more. Again, I have deterioration halved on my server, which makes it far more manageable.

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Arktouros

I meant Ichor, can’t edit :) Ichor + Fiber = Third Tier alchemy component you need to make the third tier bricks. I used to sit in a shack in the oasis for fiber doing a run every 15 minutes and Spiders was farming the spiders with a bow/set arrows (1 shot, but drop same amount as a super spider) just south west of the Pirate Ship.

I don’t disagree there aren’t ways you can fix a lot of the issues, such as item deterioration, with server settings. But after a fashion you again get closer and closer to that stage where are you cheating or aren’t you? Why not x3 resources or x6? There’s a million little justifications people use like “Well I have a life so I don’t want to waste my time gathering resources” but I saw this numerous times over with games like ARK and fact is you just reach a point where you’re cheating and by the time you’re done nothing really mattered because you cheated to get there. Last response I got from the devs was they knew it was slow and they know about deterioration, but rather than fix it they just tell you to fire up your own server and cheat away.

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ceder

The default rates to generate resources for second and third tier buildings is just absurdly, obscenely slow. And, if I’m being honest, it’s ultimately what put me off ARK with Tek Tier.

Such things are why the majority of the player base of Ark not only play on unofficial servers with relaxed rates, they also play with modded content that helps make it easier. Some people just misunderstand that ark is basically a game specifically focused on and intended for mod use.

The issue with going into God Mode or tweaking your server to have something like 10x resources etc is there’s no real sense of accomplishment. Part of the sense of accomplishment when building something is the time that building represents to take. However sometimes the game systems are badly balanced and it simply takes too long to do something.

Not necessarily. Plenty of people’s sense of accomplishment comes from their enjoyment of creatively building. Not everyone considered a grind a sense of accomplishment in games that as well focus on the destruction of such accomplishments.

And this is their response. Well rent your own server or play single player, cheat into God mode and give you all the resources you ever want. Thanks Funcom. Wonderful, tone deaf advice.

Ark devs put it more as “play your own way” because both are trying to do and say the same thing: official servers are just demo servers. The issue is that games in the past have focused and groomed people’s expectations to be to look to official servers as the lead or pedestal when both Conan and Ark have the complete opposite model.

But where conan seems to have dropped the ball is Funcom’s not wooing their modding community the way Wildcard does theirs. Wildcard buys out mods(3 of the 4 dlc’s to date come from mods), pays select modders 4k a month stipends, and much more. That has created much more incentive for content, player interactions and more. That then has and continues to translate to more revenue and growth. This is why until the last 2 months Conan’s been in a downward spiral to the point where its player base average daily dipped under 1600 players by July, to now start to improve and being in the 4k range primarily due to the update. But still that’s only one tenth of what Ark is currently doing(and also by comparison before some say “well that’s because its only around 6-7 months out of the starting gate”, comparing then is about the same 10 times better.

But sure, for those that cannot feel official servers or basic settings should be the standard, then none of this matters. But I’d say the tone deafness is more applicable to them than the devs of either game.

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Arktouros

Majority of ARK populations play on custom servers because the official servers are nightmarishly full of Alpha Tribes that can float around server to server and lock down whole clusters of servers. There’s tons of duping, DDOSing and other issues that basically has gone ignored by Wildcard. Even PVE servers “salt” the earth by putting metal pillars all around starting areas.

There’s a balance between meaningful building and a grind. You don’t need a grind for a sense of accomplishment but I can’t see how anyone gets a sense of accomplishment if they just cheat in all the stuff. That’s what Devs should be shooting for. Case in point if you want to build anything higher tier, in Conan, it’s a massive grind. But they don’t want to shoot for anything, their response is if you don’t like it just go cheat.

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Alfredo Garcia

At one point, back when I was still playing, I joined a private PvP server and proceeded to build on top of a set of rock spires. The result was a collection of interlinked circular towers of various sizes. It really looked quite magnificent. I put in furniture and kept free food and water stocked for visitors and left access completely open.

I got a bunch of compliments, offers to join clans and build stuff for them, etc. I declined, as I was mostly interested in my social experiment. Which was to see how long it would take before any destruction occurred to a completely neutral and open base. One that, by all accounts, was aesthetically pleasing.

My signs out front got destroyed a couple times, but it actually took a couple weeks before the inside got vandalized. Which I found kind of surprising. Some players did seem to think that I was up to some sort of ruse and actually had ill intent, so an attack was bound to happen eventually.

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Ket Viliano

Now this is how you play an online social game.