The Daily Grind: Which MMO is the absolute best if you’re a whale?

At the end of every year, I always do a Daily Grind on the most expensive MMO to play at that exact moment, with the implication being that expenses are bad for the average MMORPG. What I don’t think we’ve ever done is flip it around and ask which MMO is actually best for the whales. That’s what MOP reader Arsin wants to know.

“I’ve got the money to win at pay-to-win,” Arsin wrote. “What pay-to-win MMO gives me the most bang for my buck?”

I’m positive the temptation will be to point at Star Citizen or some other Kickstarter game that lets you pile thousands of dollars in for content – but that content hasn’t actually arrived and probably shouldn’t constitute bang for buck just yet. So let’s consider live MMOs only and imagine that money is truly no object. Which MMO is the absolute best if you’re a whale?

Every morning, the Massively Overpowered writers team up with mascot Mo to ask MMORPG players pointed questions about the massively multiplayer online roleplaying genre. Grab a mug of your preferred beverage and take a stab at answering the question posed in today’s Daily Grind!
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Wolfyseyes

Sea of Thieves. I mean, an entire digital ocean full of tasty krill? Hell yes, sign me UP.

Oh…wait. I may have misunderstood the question…

(…look, y’all had to know this joke was coming, right?)

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mysecretid

Mmmmmm. Tasty krill … :-)

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Dwarf-Orc

Or GW2 where whales are friendly targets and can’t be killed, which is pretty important for any MMO creature!

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Mewmew

Most friendly creatures can still be killed in GW2 by the plentiful enemies however :D

Anyway there must be some specific whales you mean there, as some whales there are “neutral” and can be killed (unless that changed sometime along and I just don’t realize it).

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BalsBigBrother

Dang it that was my reply too :-)

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Mewmew

Except the whales are going to be killed pretty often there right? You have to be alive to savor tasty krill!

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Mailvaltar

If you want to be able to spend a couple thousand bucks and then oneshot everybody in PvP, have the fastest ship on the server and be pretty much unbeatable at everything look no further than ArcheAge.

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Mewmew

Really the highest tier pay to win games are on mobile at the moment. PC started the trend, mobile perfected it.

Nearly any Perfect World game if you’re looking for MMORPGs. They all have realm vs realm or PvP and the one who pays the most is the winner with practically no ceiling in sight (people pay $3,000 to own and then the $5,000 players come and own them). These are the real pay to win games and real whales, not the simple things in many current PC MMORPGs that people call pay to win without having a clue. There are a few of their games you can get away with “only” spending $7,000 and keeping near the top though.

There are many trading card games and such that take $500 in draws to get a single copy of a top tier card, and you need many many copies of them to make a deck, and then re-copies of them to buff up those top tier cards. The top players spend many thousands a month. If you’re spending under $1,000 on one of these games you’re only a medium spender these days.

There just are so many to pick from on mobile that it’s hard to nail down. A lot of PC players who think they’re whales because they spend a minuscule $300-$500 per month on a game aren’t remotely close to true whales. It’s pretty bad out there.

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Chestnut Bowl

ESO, with all of its DLC and crown store stuff. Star Citizen would be my number one, but there isn’t even a release date on the horizon.

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Oleg Chebeneev

EVE Online of course. Not only you can buy massive capital ship decked into the most rare and expensive officer modules. YOu can start wars and influence whole political map of the universe by hiring mercenary alliances to do the fighting for you.

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Little Bugbear

I’m going to be a broken record here, ArcheAge. But Star Citizen is looking like a good game for whales as well. I’m also worried Shourd of the Avatar will become a whale destination.

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TotalCowage .

Have to disagree with Bree here; the fact games aren’t actually launched makes it easier to Whale in, because you’re still selling hope and not facts in the early stages.

I would for instance have said the usual Shroud of the Avatar, but “winning” there was always predicated on being able to re-sell the assets and XP to later comers, and as the game is just about on its last legs, the sellers aren’t actually able to sell. There was a thread on the critical sub-reddit recently about this very thing in fact.

Chap wanted to sell his account for a whole BitCoin, but didn’t want to state a price in US Dollars. Best we could work out, trying to total all the assets he was trying to dump, and even taking a massive loss on the lowest BitCoin to Dollar price it hit, he’s been unable to shift it for 3 months now. So he’s not actually “winning”.

Where as with Star Citizen, the Hope Bubble is still inflating, you can still continue to sell the Ship JPEGs to other backers who believe the future value can only inflate too. In this sense, investing in Star Citizen allows you to win the economic PvP, if that’s the game you’re playing.

If you mean in pure gameplay terms, then I have to echo so far the comments saying Archeage; not because of an objective fact, but mostly because it’s the game I’ve bounced hardest off due to the sheer amount of demands for more money. There are probably worse games out there, but Archeage is the one that really made me feel squeezed the most.

On the other hand, I wouldn’t say EvE Online because the gameplay there is mostly about playing Serious Internet Business in Corps; So even if an individual spends $100,000, if he’s in your Corp, and that Corp “wins” the internet drama, you still technically “won”. EvE is bare backed whale riding through an Ayn Rand water-park.

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Sally Bowls

At the high end, it seems quite clear: EVE Online

A decade ago, a Russian (aluminum magnates son IIRC) spent around $100,000 to help out his alliance.

Back during the recent WWB, the anti-goons side spent (IDK and don’t want to get into the how-to-value-ISK discussion) “tens of thousands” of dollars and evicted the largest alliance, over 10,000 members, in this decade-old game from their space.

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rafael12104

What? Are you serious? Is there any doubt, really?

It is ArchAge!

Holy crap, man. If you have the cash to burn, the luxuries you can buy, aside form winning at everything, are second to none.

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Bruno Brito

Allods Online, SWL, Neverwinter, i can go on.

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Vincent Clark

Star Trek Online. Without question. Runner-up: LotRO