EVE Online players recount a $5000 ganking and its aftermath on the victim

    
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How would you feel if you saw $5,000 worth of in-game assets blown to smithereens? That was what happened to one EVE Online pilot, marking one of the most expensive kills in the sandbox title’s recent history. That would, effectively, be the end of the story, but there are a number of interesting details surrounding this event that have been shared. In an illuminating interview with ganking victim Lactose Intolerant and one of the players who took part in the kill, we hear about the circumstances leading up to the event and the effects after the fact.

Lactose is an industrial player with 16 years of experience, with 120 different research jobs running across three factories at the height of his output. This resulted in a treasure trove of maxed-out blueprints — the items needed for anyone to build anything in EVE — for widely used ships like capital-class carriers and dreadnoughts. 800 of these blueprints were part of the haul that got spaced, along with two blueprints that were so rare that they aren’t even in-game anymore. The estimated loss clocks in at around 500 billion ISK, or around $5,000 in real money terms.

What makes this story strange is that Lactose was apparently flying extremely unsafe; he was reportedly flying an Orca industrial ship through a particularly dangerous region of space with fittings that were supposedly ill-suited to the task, though that part of the story is disputed. What’s more, Lactose is apparently notorious for such behavior according to the anonymous member of the group that ganked him; he had been caught by this particular guild two other times performing the same risky stunts.

According to Lactose, the loss of the blueprints isn’t a particularly major concern considering he was off to Jita to sell them anyway and distribute the wealth to his corp. However, the widespread ridicule that he’s receiving as a result of his perceived bad habits have stung him more, as he plays primarily for the social aspects. “I now find myself viewed as an undesirable recruitment prospect by short sighted recruiters who only look at my recent losses and not any of my past achievements,” said Lactose in the interview. “I want to continue playing and not give my attacker the satisfaction of running me off. It’s just that the backlash I’ve been getting is hard to take and I hope it subsides soon.”

source: PC Gamer

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Mewmew

It’s his stuff he earned, if he doesn’t really care that much that he lost it, people should give him a break.

Honestly, it sounds like he’s just enjoying himself playing and not thinking of it as some huge deal, which is how most people should be playing video games.

Sure, he was going to donate it, but it was his stuff to donate that he earned. It didn’t belong to his Corp yet. He can play as loose and risky as he wants with his own stuff.

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Armsman

I miss the ‘old days’ where the Gankers would put everything from their Teamspeak/Mumble/Doscord audio recordings up on soundcloud or Youtube for all to hear. ;)

And I guess the value of EVE items is dropping because their used to be much bigger scams and ganking incidents where the supposed RL ‘value’ was greater than $5000.00 US.

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Mewmew

Yeah it’s somewhat hilarious that losing an entire $5,000 worth of stuff is not thought of as losing much in Eve, considering the value of the stuff we’re used to hearing about people losing.

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memitim

” fittings that were supposedly ill-suited to the task, though that part of the story is disputed.” His dispute here was that he fitted the Orca for fast align and enough tank to survive 17 Tornados, a common ganking ship, thing is fast align and capital ships are mutually exclusive even the most agile cap aligns in a plodding 17 seconds and he died to 17 people so there isn’t really a dispute here. Regardless, seeing his cargo they could have brought 100 people and still stood to make a huge profit, the shocking part is blueprints take almost no cargo space and there’s literally no reason he couldn’t have used an uncatchable ship to move them other than laziness and EVE does not favour the lazy.

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Nephele

Yeah I’m really not sure why any experienced player would move a bunch of blueprints in an Orca. Covert Ops, Blockade Runners, or sneaky T3s are all better choices for that kind of activity, and it really doesn’t take much to skill into them.

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IronSalamander8 .

Stories like this are exactly why I’ve never played this thing but enjoy reading about it from a distance.

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Gary Wilburn

Loss of any kind in Eve is always too high.
With a 100% chance you Will lose what your in, either by being outshipped or out numbered, your going to lose.

In short Eve is a lose-lose game.

Take Nullsec for example:
You are expected to buy, then risk further loss for someone elses fight while losing your time for someone you haven’t even met who doesn’t even log in.

Waste of time no chance of victory unless you have a gang of 10+ ships hunting solo players…
Because being a bitch in the game is the only way to win. You will never have a fair fight 100% guaranteed.

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Shannon Wallace

Dude, I’m a new player living in null sec with my corp, have taken out fleets with three of us in sub capital ships.

It’s about being smart and knowing what you can handle and when to steer clear.

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Lateris

Had he just paid attention to the death counts he could have steered clear and waited :) Still..I used to do stupid things like this in the early days of Eve!!! Ah well. Live and learn.

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Utakata

…it’s almost if you need to buy insurance to play this game. o.O

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Random MMO fan

Smart people do use insurance in this game ;-) Ships have insurance which covers the costs of the ship (it may not cover the price you paid for ship if you buy ship that was manufactured by other players but it may cover most of the cost of the ship, unless it is a very rare ship which is impossible to produce in mass quantities). The items you carry inside the ship do not have insurance, HOWEVER you can set up a courier contract with collateral so if someone will lose your items while carrying them from one place to another – you receive collateral amount which you set. Or you can sell item in whatever station you are and let others come to buy it instead of carrying everything to a certain trade hub because you are very greedy and very impatient.

It’s almost if the game provides enough tools for smart people to avoid dumb losses regardless of what they might be doing in game ;-)

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Gary Wilburn

Ship insurance is so crappy its a moot point ;-)
Even if you fly with 0 equipped items you are taking a loss ;-)
Insurance just makes you feel better that you paid for it ;-)
As apart of a consumerist society it functions as the piece of candy after getting your teeth kicked in ;-)

Do you like my excessive use of winks? ;-)

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starbuck1771

Correct because it only covers the cost of the ship. Fittings and cargo doesn’t figure into it. However I can understand why corporations don’t want him as it takes a complete dumbass to fly that amount of cargo without an escort. I have flown billions of isk worth of cargo before but always with an escort. Losing that amount due to pure stupidity leaves a lasting effect.

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Lateris

He has a great manufacturing line though, he should go to Eve Uni LOL

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Utakata

I was speaking of something more real life in the quip…

…but I guess it’s okay. As I’ll take this as valued information for readers who wish to play this game. So thanks for sharing that. :)

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3dom

$$$ equivalent does not matter: I have multiple abandoned accounts with $3-7k worth items, including ~400 months game time in EVE.

But I quit games where I lose 1-2 months of progress in a single accident. So I can imagine the accident with Nuestra Señora de la Concepción (the ship held a year-worth mined treasures from Americas) was devastating for Spain and their colonies.

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memitim

Once you get over the idea that the amount of money you have is your progress (it isn’t) the game become a lot more fun.

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Armsbend

Quitting would bring about a needed sense of freedom I imagine. He should take the plunge and permanently uninstall.

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Gary Wilburn

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starbuck1771

Nope we’ll always need more. Will you be mine? 😈

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cmdr_cotic

EVE is a great game, just not for everybody.

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Lateris

Eve is awesome, even Russians love it!!!

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memitim

Meh, the game let’s you be a **** if you want, it also let’s you bait said bitches and then drop on them and also lets you win fights where you are outnumbered if you are the better players.