Guild Wars 2 griffon changes ruffles players’ feathers

    
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While Guild Wars 2’s Lunar New Year patch  this past week had plenty for players to absorb and enjoy, it’s one change in particular that’s put some of the community into a grumpy mood.

One of the small fixes has resulted in a huge change to how the game’s griffon mounts perform: “Fixed a bug in which griffons could interrupt the delay that occurred after performing a diving wing flap by immediately pitching up.”

According to some players, the course correction turned the griffon into a more clunky and awkward flying mount — and they are not happy about it. The Guild Wars 2 subreddit post criticizing the change has received 1,314 upvotes and generated 263 comments.

“Being able to pull up right away made the griffon feel responsive to your commands, and now [it] just feels horrible,” said the original poster on Reddit. Another agreed: “I can never get my griffon flying properly now, instead it is always diving straight into stuff and hitting ground. It was so fluid before.”

“There really is no reason to have that delay,” chimed in another player. “It really seems like this bug fix was written up by the fun police.”

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Rafael Pereira

It costs 250 gold to unlock one plus the colections grind… I am not big on farming gold or buying gems so I may buy a character slot expansion by more or less the same gold too.

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haishao

“the joy of movement”

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Gel

I wanted true flight. I got gliding. I was a bit disappointed.

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neil shelton

Played Guild wars 2 extensively during Alpha testing , at least a year i would say me and my clan were in Alpha/Beta. We all go in by some friend and family chain migration event they had when they got their first form of WvW done. Anet jealously guards their whales.

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Bryan Turner

What determines a Whale in that game, I used to spend 100 to 200 a month and I never felt protected or appreciated?

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Mewmew

I don’t understand what you’re saying.

“Trust me when i say estrogen is the predominant hormone in that studio.”

Oh is that why the game is so good? I wondered why it stood out, now I know, thanks.

“You would have valid concerns and get mansplained”

Manspalining is what men do to women… In a studio where estrogen is the predominant studio? I’m a little confused.

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Bruno Brito

This is a confusing post. Would say he’s trying to be snarky but it only comes of as confused, really.

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Tobasco da Gama

You can’t expect someone suffering from testosterone poisoning to put together a coherent argument. ;)

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Peregrine Falcon

Well, I’m seriously glad that I didn’t put in the time and effort to get a griffon, and now I never will.

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Yaner

It’s just a gold sink, like 90% of the challenge to getting it is pouring your gold wallet out, the rest is just an easy collect-a-thon. It’s really not even that good.

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connor_jones

As much as I enjoy GW2, my jaded and cynical side tells me that the hefty price tag on the griffon is an attempt by Anet to raise more cash by getting players to whip out their credit cards to buy gems and convert them to gold.

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sauldo

It was definitely a gold sink, but most people would have -often without realizing it- enough sellable mats in bank to raise that money. At least it is what I did and I’m far from being a gold farmer.

A steep price indeed but it would probably take a legendary-priced item to incentivize casuals with disposable income to pull out the credit card.

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Mewmew

I’m pretty happy that I got one anyway.

I just finished getting mine yesterday and it’s the base untrained model right now (I was worn out by the time I finished getting it and just needed to log out) but I’m still happy I got it.

I do see and understand the complaints though and don’t really get the change happening now. They just made it more clunky and less responsive, people were happy with it the way it was. There doesn’t seem to be much of a reason for the change that I can see, it doesn’t look like it was causing issues. Maybe they’ll change it back, maybe they’ll ignore the complaints until they eventually go away, but I still am happy I got a griffon :D

It’s more prestige than anything else though, it’s not especially needed.

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Skoryy

I waded through four pages of the salt mine known as the official forums and haven’t found any massive trail of tears about the griffon update. Plenty about the class rebalances, the confusion PvE changes, and Gaile Gray even opening up about Anet’s policy towards selling runs, but nothing about the griffon.

But somehow there’s 1300 upvotes on Reddit. Huh.

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Bryan Turner

That’s because we all get suspended, so we take the complaints ANet doesn’t want to see or acknowledge to Reddit where they can’t erase it and pretend they don’t exist. I sometimes wonder that the reason more devs communicate through Reddit might be because the clowns that they hire for moderators might have suspended the ANet employees as well.

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Tanek

I suspect that reasonably worded posts that keep within forum guidelines, even if they are complaints, will not result in a suspension. That has been my experience over the years, anyway.

Also, https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/392599

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Bryan Turner

Regarding your link, all you’ve shown is a handcrafted merged thread showing the comments they want seen.

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Tanek

It seems you have your mind made up on this, so I know better than to try any further logic or evidence. :) Have a nice day.

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Bryan Turner

You didn’t even take the time to look at the example I put down there, hell even Massively OP can corroborate it.

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Tanek

You said there were no complaints on the forums because the posters all get suspended. I linked to a thread (yes, merged) on there with plenty of complaints. You then said it is because they are only showing the comments they want to be seen. I’m not sure exactly what you are getting at at this point. What are they hiding? Given that there are complaints pretty much matching any I see on reddit, my guess would be that removed posts were a little less polite and had way more kittens prowling about in them.

As for your example, you are right, I did not look into it. If I had a way to read the removed thread to get an idea for why it was removed, that might be something, but as it stands all I have is your side, and given the griffon theory above, I am not inclined to go down that path. Fin.

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Bryan Turner

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haishao

I remember that thread on the forum and even commented in it.
That person was calling arenanet homophobic because he could match 2 girls in the little matching game in Vabbi but he didn’t got 2 guys because RNG.
Then got offended because there are lesbian couple in the game but no gay couple, which is false.
People told him to calm down and proved him wrong on every points he tried to get some outrage on and eventually anet deleted the thread because it was a stupid thread of someone throwing a fit over absolutely nothing. Not because he was gay.