City of Heroes: Homecoming concurrency, Rebirth and Reddit’s i24 servers, and the future of basebuilding

    
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I had wondered whether the slow-drip release of World of Warcraft Classic this week would dampen enthusiasm for other games’ rogue servers and progression servers, but it doesn’t seem to have affected City of Heroes’ Homecoming servers at all. In fact, just the opposite, such that the team had to bring a new server online (not a new playable shard, mind you) to handle its now 67000-person playerbase.

“We reached our highest ever concurrent player count of 7950 tonight,” the Homecoming team wrote Saturday, “and found a way to increase CPU power by a considerable amount, which combined with the new server we setup earlier today should provide a smoother playing experience going forward. As always, we’ll still continue to keep an eye on everything.

If you’re a graphs junkie, take a peek at the “live-graphs” channel on the Homecoming Discord; it’s pumping out shard uptime and concurrency in a pretty format – here’s that peak and then the dip when everybody (well, not everybody, clearly) goes to sleep.

Here’s what else is going on around the CoH community:

This past Saturday, the original CoH Discord formally launched its own server, Rebirth. This server will run a version of i24, not i25+ like Homecoming, and no wipes are planned, though there are still bugs being worked through right now. Admins are discouraging camping lots of names and are temporarily limiting players to 12 characters; a double experience weekend is planned for the Memorial Day holiday coming up. Signups right here.

The CoH Reddit Discord assured its community this week that work on its own i24 rogue server – and multiple backup servers, actually – continues. Administrators write that they have put together funding and hardware and will not be asking for donations. The beta was intended to launch this weekend but was delayed briefly. Notably, this version of the game will keep the old Paragon Rewards system from when Paragon Studios took classic City of Heroes free-to-play; however, all players on this server will be flagged VIP and granted plenty of tokens to buy their way up the chain. Here’s last night’s update; we’ll update with more when it’s live.

Full Frontal Nerdity is somehow a comic I’ve never heard of, but I like it already: Its May 16th edition focuses on the new City of Heroes obsession. I feel very seen right now!

Finally, back to Homecoming for one last bit: If you’re into housing and building design in MMOs, you should definitely whip up a supergroup and play around with the tools. Everything on those particular servers has been made free to build with, and it sounds as if the team has plans to develop the system much further than Paragon Studios ever did. [Thanks, Edge_Case!]

COH BASE BUILDING Basics (more will be added as requested)

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Confused about the City of Heroes rogue servers? Our extensive coverage can be found right here. The short version is that this spring a leaker exposed a secret City of Heroes server running for the last six years using the sunsetted game’s original code, which was ultimately turned over to the community. There are now multiple player teams working on multiple public and private servers for the beloved superhero MMORPG, with over 67000 people on Homecoming alone. So far, NCsoft has not commented publicly or taken legal action on any of them, and the company is in talks with players regarding the game’s future.
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Doubleplusgood

Do super bases have salvage storage? can i invite all my alts, store salvage, and share it between all my characters? One of my characters is at 100 out of 150 salvage now, so I will have to think of some ways to store and share it. emailing it would take so long.

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BigAngry

Yes, yes, and yes.

There are Salvage racks and enhancement racks that store large amounts, and you can invite your alts by using “/altinvite name”

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Doubleplusgood

does this require me to spend any influence? or can i just build away with no cost?

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Utakata

Still crossing the fingers and pigtails that NC will make this all official. Then I can start thinking of joining this party again. :)

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BigAngry

What’re you mostly afraid of that’s keeping you off of the servers? Maybe we can assuage your fears a smidge.

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Utakata

Losing my characters again this time to a potential cease and desist shutdown. It was very painful for me the first time when NC pull the plug. I don’t want to relive that again.

I am also uncomfortable of servers that are being hosted by /Reddit and 4Chan. I’d rather not deal with a potential cesspools of toxicity and bigotry…as that was never my experience when I played CoX originally.

Sorry. :(

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BigAngry

Hey, that’s 100% valid. Totally get that.

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BigAngry

Also, I’m waiting with bated breath for the NDA’d NCSoft talks to resolve, and REALLY hoping that we’re going to get immunity for, if not everyone, at the very least Homecoming in addition to the heretofore unnamed and yet-to-exist Titan Network server(s), because of the whole “Don’t want to start all over again” thing. So I’m definitely with you on that, Utakata.

In addition to that, from the VOD in the article, it looks like Leandro and his coders are working on a closed beta to further development, so that’s really neat to see. I hope it’s available for all i25+ servers, whatever else they work on.

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Utakata

Thank you for explaining that. /bows

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IronSalamander8 .

I’ve been pretty happy with Homecoming, I’ve heard bad things about the 4Chan server in exactly the direction you’re concerned about Utakata. Regardless I don’t blame you for waiting, it was painful the first time.

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xpsync

I find no reason to leave Homecoming. They have done nothing but constantly improve in the professional dept.

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Castagere Shaikura

This is very true. Everyone I know is pro Homecoming and screw the other servers.

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terminallynerdy

I wouldnt say everyone is “Pro Homecoming screw the Rest” but Homecoming was the first, its stable, has the largest population, and hasnt really caused any controversy at this stage. The others are smaller, less stable, and comported themselves pretty badly in the first week of their existance with demands and actions towards Homecoming. However, I am a firm believer that peeps should play where they want, how they want. I prefer Homecoming because its COH but Better, improved in a ton of ways, with lots of quality of life improvements.

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Bruno Brito

Play on the EU server, and you won’t have issues.

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BigAngry

Huh? Pretty sure if the Homecoming team gets a C&D, all the servers come down with them, no matter if they’re in Canada or Germany.

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xpsync

As far as a shutdown, i’m glad this is brought up every now and again as i don’t have any thoughts here anymore.

Not that i’m taking SWG:L and CoX for granted in that will never happen, but i dunno, does not cross my mind anymore, have fun while you can and if it lasts for years and years as SWG has already done then, great!

At least i had fun, and “if” there was a shutdown, i’m not left saying to myself, i should have at least jumped in for a bit.

My whole gaming list is swg:l and cox, that’s it and each one is battling for my time. swg is getting more and it’s only because it’s a massive complex beast, huge worlds, so is more true to what i would like from an mmorpg, not that cox isn’t it’s getting it’s fair share of time, it’s massively complex in the worlds of choice.

Everyone can relate to this as a better way to explain it, swg melts hours i can easily dump an entire day and still not want to log out, cox i have overwhelmingly good time so much fun, but after a couple/few hours i’m good and log out without much issue.

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Bruno Brito

Huh? Pretty sure if the Homecoming team gets a C&D, all the servers come down with them, no matter if they’re in Canada or Germany.

Not surely. Depending where the team is, C&Ds are irrelevant. They’re common on the pserver scene, and several servers ignore them.

Pservers are commonly set on places that the former companies cannot reach. Blizzard couldn’t shutdown Elysium, they can’t shutdown Kronos. They can’t shutdown Netherwing, they can’t shutdown Warmane.

The problem here is the Homecoming team trying to be “legitimate” while NCSoft offers their sweet silence. Pservers are sketchy by nature. Embrace it.

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BigAngry

The servers are literally in Canada (original 4) and Germany (Reunion), and the Homecoming team seems to have their LLC registered in Delaware, USA, though that’s where a bunch of shit is registered for monetary purposes (credit card companies, banks, etc).

Also, the Homecoming team isn’t the one in talks with NCSoft, that’s Titan Network/TonyV/Leandro himself. I’m just hoping that whatever deal they strike with NCSoft extends to Homecoming (if not the other servers up) as well.

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Tee Parsley

Yeeeesh! Having to do that awful Galaxy City/freebie intro each time is enough to make me an anti-altaholic.

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Eamil

You can skip it.

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Shadex De'Marr

Just an item for clarification on Rebirth. It is currently running i24 but they have stated they have no intention of leaving it that way. Rebirth from the words of their GMs was never intended to remain a version of the last known Paragon Studios build. Now that is not to say that theirs is not ‘currently’ a more true version. However, know they have full intentions of altering the game play and adding features just like i25 did. They just want to do their own stuff.

So go into it knowing that while you may greatly enjoy the last live version they are mostly running now, things could very drastically change in the future. That said, I do appreciate the fact that they have remained true so far to the spirit of the original game and are having players progress to gain access to features as they did in live. My time on Rebirth and their Discord has left me more with a feeling of they may have been more interested in doing it ‘their’ way than doing it as it had been done previously, whether Homecoming or Paragon Studios. Time will tell.

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Eamil

Sure, the game’s not going to be frozen in time, but I think using vanilla i24 as a starting point is a solid plan. Ouroboros has stated that while they themselves won’t add new content, there’s the possibility of making QOL fixes that don’t affect gameplay much and importing similar changes from the SCORE source Leandro posted.

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Natalyia

Yes, cool info about new basebuilding stuff. But the feels on that intro video. It choked me up in a way I was not expecting, especially since I can already play the darn game again. But something about watching Atlas Park and her defending heroes come back like that – I dunno, but it really got to me.

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Hikari Kenzaki

There is already a LOT in the bases currently that is nothing to do with what Paragon Studios had during live.

You can build effectively anywhere in your plot. You can create areas that are “outside” and water features and all manner of fun stuff. And TONS of placeables that weren’t there before.

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Skoryy

I caught some old friends on Twitter talking about the private servers, and mentioning how they’d all need some form of XP boost as the 2019 audience couldn’t hack the massive leveling curve. Given how I’ve been attached to Homecoming’s double XP boost, and most everyone else I’ve had the chance to peek at their buffs, I kinda believe them.

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Eamil

The fact that some form of XP boost has been the norm the entirety of Homecoming’s existence means that no one really had the chance to try the game at normal XP before getting hooked on boosts. =/

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Skoryy

The thing is, I still don’t have a character there above 33. Partially altitis, partially because I don’t have the time or energy, mostly because the leveling curve is long even with the XP boosts.

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BigAngry

COH always shined the brightest when you were teaming. When you get on a team of 6+ that’s moving at the speed of Damn!, the XP comes in at such a rate that you’re not feeling stuck in the leveling muck.

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quark1020

And its just plain fun. You don’t even notice the slow grind at this point.

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Skoryy

Good point, I’ll start up some more non-DFB teams with my stalker. :D

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BigAngry

Just about to hit 36 on my Psi melee/Elec stalker, myself! I LOVE the changes they made before shutdown for stalkers, especially for teaming. Makes it so much easier to contribute.

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Doubleplusgood

I have a full blown case of Altisis and my highest character is level 26. I am on the third page of characters now. I lost count of how many that is. So the xp boost is very much needed.

I have been using the double xp custom boost but have been worried that you do not earn influence. You still get influence from recipe and enhancement drops, but I don’t think it will be enough. I am hoping that maybe when you get to high level the influence will be enough to catch up and buy enhancements.

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drew who

I think the part of the reason classic servers and these reboots of older games are popular is because the audience they attract are sick and tired of fast leveling .

Your old friends on twitter may not be but they probably would never play something like this because they are happily playing a casual modern game .

Mind you double xp weekends aren’t a bad thing as long as they don’t become the norm

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Castagere Shaikura

Yeah getting through those early levels is painful. That’s why everyone is doing sewer runs. I would mix it up with teams and story missions I can solo. I would do teams for a couple of levels whenever I go to a new zone.

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IronSalamander8 .

I started in EQ1, few games few as grindy as that one did! When they do, I give them a hard pass, CoX is luckily not one of those games!

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The 5 stages of grinding

Stage 5 – don’t realize it, dumb fun
Stage 4 – recognition but acceptance
Stage 3 – resentment to the game
Stage 2 – resentment to yourself
Stage 1 – donuts.

Happily I have returned to stage 4 1/2 after years at stage 1

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Castagere Shaikura

It’s just starting out with 2 powers and one on a longer cooldown that is such a drag. But that is how most old school MMO’s were.

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IronSalamander8 .

That is the worst part. It’s over quickly but I wish they would just drop Brawl and give everyone at least 1 or 2 extra power(s) based attack at creation so you never feel a lack of powers at lower levels. For example instead of just Jab as a level 1 XXX/Super strength Tanker, give a fast lighter attack called ‘Poke’ or something like that so you never feel a hole in your combat pattern.

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Armsman

Why would anything WoW affect the hardcore CoH playerbase?

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Hikari Kenzaki

I have to agree with this sentiment. I don’t see how one could affect the other much.

People seem to forget that City of Heroes was released concurrently, within a few months, of WoW. And it’s one of the few games that WoW didn’t utterly destroy out the gate.

I’ve never liked WoW despite the several times I’ve tried to play it. I played CoH for 8 years mostly for the thrilling heroics, but also because it wasn’t WoW. It was nothing like WoW and that was a good thing. As WoW “changed the game” and hundreds of clones popped up, I and many, many others, kept playing CoH.

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BigAngry

Yep, COH pre-dated WoW by about 7 months, and I wholeheartedly agree, they’re generally two different audiences, two different itches scratched. We’re starting to waltz into a silver era, if you will, of Superhero MMOs right now, while we’ve been hip-deep in fantasyesque MMOs from the beginning of the genre onward.

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Chris Johnson

Agreed. I’ve been gaming intensively for decades and I’ve never been interested in WOW, despite loving high fantasy settings.

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Eamil

I’ve been playing on Rebirth all weekend. It’s obviously not as populated as any single Homecoming shard, but there’s enough people to talk to and group with and the population is slowly growing.

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terminallynerdy

Yea I got a basic base built at the moment myself, for my own personal Super Group. I got the invention table, storage, working on the Teleporter Room at the moment (I want to organize it and there are a LOT of zones for porting!) but I love the fact that I can just build myself a little home for my ragtag band of “supers” who come from different walks of life but care about each other, even if they are on opposite sides of the fence.

Yes I have connections between my characters. SO THERE.