New World may consider bringing back gankbox elements, talks up its uniqueness

    
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Amazon Game Studios did an interview with IGN this week about New World that’s part puzzler, part eyebrow-raiser, part declaration of war.

First, remember how a week or two ago, AGS devs were telling folks on the alpha forums that there was no chance the game was reverting to a free-for-all full-loot PvP MMORPG and could you please stop asking and instead focus on feedback for what the game actually is now? Yeah, so that doesn’t seem to be entirely the case. Game Director Scot Lane apparently told IGN there’s a chance of some sort of revert, partial or otherwise:

“We will always consider bringing things back. We are set on launching our alphas and betas this way and seeing what happens.”

Of course, that comes with caveats; the studio is very definitely set on creating an MMORPG where both PvE and PvP players can “co-exist” without “exclud[ing] people from content.” So that may not be enough to stop the riots over PvP.

Lane further tries to distinguish New World by saying its specific combination of art style, combat, and wars/invasion content make it unique in the genre. “I think those three features put us in this other bracket of MMO that really hasn’t been done yet,” he says. Now them’s fightin’ words. You can check the whole thing out on IGN.

Source: IGN

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micedicetwice

Just decide already goddamit.

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FormlessOne

Good luck with that. The singular, almost callous indifference shown to players getting pounded over & over again – in an alpha, no less – was off-putting. The lackluster “yeah, OK, we’ll try to fix that somehow, but it’s your fault for not enjoying it” response after months of unbridled gankfest masquerading as “testing” was even more off-putting.

This title’s D.O.A., sadly. It’s not just the game – it’s the community, as well, and, so far, the community on both sides of the client appears toxic. The game attracted the worst kind of PvPers, and the devs are more worried about keeping subscriptions than building a world.

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Paragon Lost

Feels like they’re flailing around trying to figure out what they can do to draw people in. Sadly it’s going to have the opposite effect because it comes off as desperate and unorganized.

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ManyMachines

I’m not in the new alpha, and did not get a chance to do larger scale pvp in the last one, but I am not sure how this battle system is going to pan out. If all the defender has to do is hold out, why not take 50 healers and just sit there healing each other the whole time? It might not be as fun as actually killing the other side, but I assume it would be effective as long as you had someone calling on voice. You may not even need 50 healers, maybe you can make an unbreakable spider tank with 30, or 20. Are there role limitations or something to prevent this?

I got a free preorder so I’ll still give this game a shot, but my enthusiasm for it has plummeted. Full-loot owpvp is rough for a lot of folks, which I understand, but I think AGS threw the baby out with the bath water. Would have been better to emulate Eve and do some variation of high sec/low sec/null sec. Still time for them to turn it around I guess (after launch), but I think they’re gonna have to axe the management and make some smart hires afterwards.

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silverlock

No healers currently.

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Robert Trey Hardy

No healers….and why emulate a game that has diminished numbers? No one has the formula, let them give it a go their way

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silverlock

I’m more worried about the games crafting to be honest.

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Robert Trey Hardy

Jewelry was lame and alchemy limited. Everything else was fine

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K38FishTacos

Just make two different rule-set servers: PVE and gank-box PVP. Why is that so difficult? Everybody gets what they want.

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Arktouros

Sadly this rarely works out well for one side or the other.

Historically it’s the PvP side who gets entirely shafted.

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Robert Trey Hardy

Due to their actions, and the fact the successful pvp games are Korean developed. WOW hit an early nich, which no company will be able to reproduce and they need to understand that.

Other pvp games fade,die, have limited numbers and zero streaming worth and that is what amazon wants, stream driven traffic.

No one watches average Joe level up. They watch world 1st or XxPopular clan doing Zz.

It’s a rough position to be in. They seem focused towards faction fighting, but should have watched and read DAOC past players videos and remarks

It is difficult to try to be different when everyone is screaming already :)

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Robert Trey Hardy

Wont work. You divide your playerbase. They want time zone servers no playstyle servers. They understand that a flag option is limited amd you have blockers in those situations, we saw it in alpha,but ganking set just runs off overs, killing a games appeal, forcing it to fringe playing.

It’s why games like Arc or Rust have a few hundred to thousand watching a stream and this game was made for twitch streaming.

It’s a confusing scenario, but Just do this and that wont fix it.

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Toy Clown

Looks like integrity is out the window for this dev team. I’ve seen other MMOs in the past with this sort of contradictory statements and development and they never seem to last long.

I’m out of interest in this title. Peace out.

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Random MMO fan

Sorry, I just can’t stop with the amount of lies the developers post in such articles. Scot Lane said this in the article:

“We want everyone to play…but what I don’t want to do is exclude people from content.”

Here is the actual truth (for people who are not aware, you can apply for 50v50 instanced wars but the approval depends on company leaders, if they do not like you because they think you are a spy or do not like your race or your gender or for any other reason – you will not be able to participate, also you cannot switch faction or create new character on same server unless you delete your current one):

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Arktouros

I mean even from a more basic perspective this game has two end game PvE activities. A singular world boss (yikes) and the Fort PvE attacks. However if you’re a PvE player who doesn’t want to PvP, you can’t take a fort to be attacked in PvE because you have to do PvP to get a fort or defend a fort. You can sign up as a town resident, but again if the people who own the town don’t want you there then too bad, so sad no PvE content for you.

Just not sure what they are thinking with this one. It’s such an obviously bad design oversight.

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Just not sure what they are thinking with this one. It’s such an obviously bad design oversight.

Mr. Arktouros, are you actually suggesting our design is bad???? How dare you! No more testing for you!!!1111oneoneoneeleven

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Armsbend

Lol that is hilarious. This game is becoming hilarious. Sadly hilarious.

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Arktouros

My friend was the one who was originally banned :)

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Armsbend

who cares? Why beta test this pos for them?

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Covynant001

If they keep reversing directions like this soon no one will be interested.

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NeoWolf

And just like that this game went back to being uninteresting to me… ah well was nice while it lasted lol