Elder Scrolls Online’s in-game lockbox item earning system won’t ship with Blackwood

    
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Whether you are for buying Elder Scrolls Online’s crown crates or not, you can’t deny that there aren’t some sweet goodies lurking in those lockboxes. And if your desire to acquire them is greater then your wallet, then Blackwood was set to be good news, as it was intended to introduce an Endeavors system that will allow players to earn crown crate items through in-game activities. However, that rollout won’t actually happen the same day Blackwood hits but rather a few weeks after Blackwood’s launch.

And speaking of Blackwood, the June expansion will roll out a new 12-player trial called Rockgrove for the community to conquer. It’s all about fighting your way through a pyramid of cultists to put a kibosh on their dark ritual.

Blackwood is launching on PC June 1st, with the console edition happening a week later on June 8th.

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misanthropomorphic

I’m hoping new daddy Microsoft has a positive effect on ESO. And the lootbox change is a great first step (although I don’t honestly know if that was an MS change, or something already in the works.)

What the game does well, it does really well. I don’t care about PvP, but am mostly a story/exploration player. And when you have even the lowliest NPCs all with full voice acting and fun stories to play through, it’s like heaven. I just finished Murkmire for the first time, and I loved every bit of it. The only complaint being I could not do the Blackrose Prison arena with a group finder, but that’s really okay, I’m used to that from other games.

I think if they put more love into their engine, especially combat, and find ways to de-emphasis the shop so much, it could truly become the best MMO out there. And it’s a good time to take the lead, as Blizzard has clearly lost their way over the years, and that’s coming from a 17-year veteran. They lost me and WoW seems a lost cause right now.

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Bereman99

Gotta use FOMO on the current set of crates to make sure people spend their money on them before potentially reducing the revenue with the next set, right?

Also, gotta make sure that only the Crown Crate items obtained via Crown Crates bought with Crowns can be broken down into gems. The identical item, if obtained with this new Seals currency, can’t be broken down.

Not that the amount of gems items broke down into was ever something to write home about.

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Witches

Wait…crate season???

Scary.

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Raidervc

It’s not scary. It’s what’s been happening for a while now. Think we just haven’t used that terminology directly though.

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Bereman99

Yep.

They cycle what the crates offer, with a title themed to the major items.

It’s exactly as FOMO as you’d expect from ESO at this point. This is, after all, the company that will offer you a incredibly large castle as a housing instance, ask you to pay $100 for it, and also only have it available in the store for a limited time with no indication of when or even if it will return to the store.

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Bannex

Every time I see anything about this game I think of that godfather meme. This game is a janky pile of shit covered in an elder scrolls veneer. It’s basically a digital mall that sells the worst products an ingame store can but it somehow is still viewed as a legitimate game.

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nomadmorlock9

Lol. It sells cosmetics and consumables.

This game has an immense world with an amazing amount of PvE content that you can always play with your friends regardless of level, a content release schedule that’s the envy of almost every other live game, Amazing vast Dungeon content for groups with a wide span of difficulty, tons of 12 man group content, three faction PvP with sieges and mass battles, smaller battle grounds for additional PvP, crafting that matters, etc. They continue to add new classes, new systems (antiquities, companions), and tackle issues such as performance and optimization with new clients and new servers coming this summer.

Not much more you can ask for in an MMO.

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Bruno Brito

Ok, let’s be straight here. I totally disagree with Bannex, but there are several things in your post that are biased/false/kinda too.

Lol. It sells cosmetics and consumables.

It’s a game that punishes B2P players by shoving all QoL into the sub. This game is a fucking ordeal if you play without buying all the DLC or subbing.

This game has an immense world with an amazing amount of PvE content that you can always play with your friends regardless of level

Agreed.

a content release schedule that’s the envy of almost every other live game

Eh…i would say the issue with MMOs nowadays is lacking lateral systems enough that players feel the droughts with way more intensity. ESO has a lot of them, so you just feel that the schedule is good. It’s pretty average.

Amazing vast Dungeon content for groups with a wide span of difficulty, tons of 12 man group content

Which is also present in other games. Nothing special here.

PvP with sieges and mass battles, smaller battle grounds for additional PvP

Which are both completely dogshit. Battlegrounds are a fiesta, and Cyrodiil is a bigger fiesta. Sieges and mass battles that have terrible desync and lag because ZOS still didn’t figure out what core design of the engine makes their game behave like spat gum on asphalt under the scorching sun. Battlegrounds were a spam of sorc pets, then came the werewolves, then became a span of world soul dots, then became a spam of twohanded dizzying strike because burst was out of control, and i don’t know what pvp’ers concoted from the hellhole that is their community but i assume is nothing good.

crafting that matters, etc

1- Good luck being a crafter without being a sub. This game crafting is one of the most timegated i’ve ever seen. Non-sub crafters need to make dozens of mules because they lack a crafting bag.

2- The decentralized AH actually hurts crafters. Not having everyone in the game being able to see your products is terrible for business.

3- It’s not that “crafting matters”. Alchemy and Provisioning matters. Most others you use sometimes, because it’s way easier to just trudge along with the abomination that is their Guild Store system to buy a set than to go through the awful process of leveling post 50 CP crafting.

They continue to add new classes, new systems (antiquities, companions)

Classes shouldn’t exist in ESO, but i agree with the overall sentiment.

and tackle issues such as performance and optimization with new clients and new servers coming this summer.

Yet, the game still plays like crap because animation canceling still exists, it rubberbands, desyncs and your characters still run like they’re gonna faceplant at any moment, and have just bad animations all around.

ESO is a great game, but it has a LOT of shortcomings. Don’t sell them as a positive, please.

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Hurbster

Max level crafting is perfectly viable.

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Bruno Brito

Never said it wasn’t. Said that unsubbing a crafter is a terrible idea because you depend on mules. Crafting is a ordeal if you play non-subbing. And the decentralized AH makes your goods harder to sell.

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Hurbster

No it doesn’t. I am in 3 social Guilds and I have never had any problems selling stuff. Hell, one doesn’t even have a guild trader and the other two are hardly in prime spots.

You can join up to 5 Guilds so if you are serious about selling then go join a trading guild.

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Bruno Brito

You can join up to 5 Guilds so if you are serious about selling then go join a trading guild.

You literally just made my point. Having to join more than one guild to have a bigger spread because the AH is decentralized is literally having to work more because the game doesn’t have enough QoL.

It’s like saying that the original Ragnarok didn’t had issues with buying and selling because you could just spend 2 hours writing down all the stores in Prontera.

All while you can buy/sell everything in WoW with a click.

It does. It totally does.

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Bannex

Well this doesn’t sound like you TOTALLY disagree with me. Most of those issues are pretty unforgivable tbh. Especially from an IP this dominant and a game this age.

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Bruno Brito

I don’t totally disagree with you. I just don’t think it’s that unforgivable. Server issues on mass warfare is a problem all MMOs have, hence why CU is trying to make advances on that camp. I don’t like Animation Canceling but it doesn’t break the game. ESO is perfectly playable with a one-bar build, which is what i use.

I do think they have one of the most egregious cashshop ( not P2W tho ) in the market but they kinda make up in other ways: Great versatility in character building, a decent housing system, great open world, the scaling is actually good too.

It’s less like ESO is really good or really bad and just that MMOs right now don’t hold up to standards of legendary franchises. Skyrim is absolutely better than ESO. ESO is a perfectly passable to ok game.

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Bereman99

They continue to add new classes

They’ve added two in 7 years. Not sure I’d include that in your list of things to brag about when it comes to ESO.

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Hurbster

Both classes got criticised for being pay to win as they were locked to that particular expansion.

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SmiteDoctor

So what games do you hold in high regard, one ‘unbiased’ toxic take down deserves another?

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Bannex

Honestly at this point not much. I played WoW for most of my gaming interest but to be clear the direction gaming has gone has left me disinterested in them, especially mmos.

This response was not an effort to protect the games I think are good. As I said if you’d like to unleash on a game I think was and still is better than ESO then attack WoW.

The issues I have with ESO are too many to list but as people have pointed out, the combat feels bad. The public dungeons although numerous end up with you 1/3 of the way through it when XxSephirothxx blasts through laying waste to everything making you feel like it’s generally a waste of time. The cash shop has all the fixings of a shitty monetization scheme. Sure it’s mostly cosmetic but there are def some pve performance boosts, loot boxes, incredibly necessary QoL things attached to a sub and cosmetics that flat out shit all over the elder scrolls predecessors.

It’s a mess of terrible design choices (battle pass inc?) that rely almost exclusively on the IP. Any elder scroll fan would love to explore tamriel and that’s about where the game’s upside is exclusively nestled.

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SmiteDoctor

I can’t defend WoW at this point, the way I see it the Devs are stuck between a rock and an executive worried about Kotick’s next Private Jet. At least with the purchase by Microsoft ESO player can eventually earn cash shop items through Endeavors, but in all seriousness I haven’t had any issue converting gold to cash shop items through my guild. I don’t touch the the Crates unless I have a spare amount of crowns left over after a purchase.

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Blake

Bad take says what?

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Bruno Brito

It’s actually one of the best MMOs in the market ( albeit the monetization irritates me to no end ), which may be a good or a bad thing depending on your point of view.

What i can say is: ESO is way more deserving of being a trend-setter for MMOs than WoW ever was.

Fuck weaponswapping tho. Take that crap out of my games please.

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Blake

I agree, it’s one of the better MMOs on the market, but it does indeed have some issues. I agree with a lot of what you said earlier in the discussion.

I already resubbed this week and have the expansion bought, but I know that while I’ll really enjoy playing in the next month or two I also know I’ll unsub and uninstall it probably by the end of July as I just can’t stick with the game long term.

The combat never really worked for me, the animation canceling, weapon swapping just gets to me after a while.

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Hurbster

Years playing DCUO trained me for that.

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Bruno Brito

I hated in DCUO and i hate it now.

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Bannex

It’s comments like this that confuse the shit out of me.

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Blake

That I like the game story, the world, etc. enough to buy an expansion, sub for a few months a year and then leave? Not every MMO/game needs to be a forever commitment.

If they had a better combat system would I have stayed longer? Probably, heck I might not have ever unsubbed. But I’m still quite happy to play two to four months a year and move on to other things as it stands.

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Bannex

I guess I don’t understand what trend it set… nothing this game does is groundbreaking. There’s tons of fashion and a great game world I’ll def give it that but I don’t find the gameplay compelling enough to justify the ridiculous monetization scheme. Especially when games like overwatch get slammed for just having lootboxes…

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Witches

For some reason people have an higher tolerance for failure when it involves Bethesda, or maybe it’s the other way around, maybe Bethesda just doesn’t have the rabid haters other companies have so people just shrug and keep playing despite the problems.

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Bruno Brito

I guess I don’t understand what trend it set… nothing this game does is groundbreaking.

Because in MMOs, breaking ground also breaks the game. GW2 was groundbreaking with level scaling, no trinity, weaponswitching and horizontal progression, and it took them YEARS to make it function in ways that weren’t just 5 dps with heals. GW2 was also riddled with bugs because of how their skills function. A good example was Necro’s Focus 4 skill, Reaper’s Scythe that couldn’t hit your target if your target weren’t at the same ground level as you, because the skill projectile felt the need to dive into the earth. There was also GW2’s early progression that was just rushing CoF P3 over and over and over and over.

ESO is basically a more solid version of GW2 ( with way worst races and visuals ,i might add ) with also better character building.

There’s tons of fashion and a great game world I’ll def give it that but I don’t find the gameplay compelling enough to justify the ridiculous monetization scheme.

The fashion is actually one of the things i like the least about this game. I don’t like ESO’s fashion because it’s amazing how lackluster it is. LoTRO and GW2 blow it out of the water. As for game world i can’t disagree, it’s just really good.

As for the monetization, it’s the same for me. I play ESO on and off because i can’t sub, since exchange rates for brazilians are prohibitive, and there are moments where it annoys me because my bags are always full and so are my banks and i don’t wanna play Alts, i’m a self-sufficient player.

Especially when games like overwatch get slammed for just having lootboxes…

Overwatch gets slammed because it’s boring as fuck. Imagine playing FF14 without the great PvE, the fashion, the housing, the world exploring, just you and 11 other players walking on a instance hitting eachother.

Sounds great.

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SmiteDoctor

I use One Bar builds by Hack the Minotaur.

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Hurbster

Just farmed the last piece of Ice Furnace I need for the Warden Ice and Fire build.

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Hurbster

I disagree, quite strongly.