Warsong Gulch, Alterac Valley, and plugin nerfs are live in WoW Classic

    
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How innovative.

It may be too late for the WoW Classic folks who’ve already abandoned ship – or at least their PvP servers – but battlegrounds are live in the legacy version of Blizzard’s flagship MMORPG today. If Classic follows the original pattern, open-world PvP will diminish a bit as players flock into the PvP instances for somewhat fairer fights and far better loot. My favorite part is the bluename post introducing the battlegrounds as if they were brand-new. It’s adorable. Just in case you forgot…

“Warsong Gulch is a 10v10 game of capture-the-flag, with each faction attempting to carry their opponents’ flag all the way back to their own base, while preventing the opposition from doing the same. Players fight in level-ranges in Warsong Gulch: 10-19, 20-29, 30-39, 40-49, 50-59, and level 60. […] Alterac Valley is a large 40v40 tug-of-war zone, with many quests, objectives, and areas of interest. All players at level 51 and higher are placed into a single level-range in this epic struggle, with rewards via reputation as well as quest rewards. […] Battlegrounds are cross-realm, which means you’ll fight alongside allies and against opponents from all of the realms in your region.”

The update also adds the keyring, which I am just now remembering wasn’t in at launch (painful!), plus the super annoying elemental invasions (you know I’m right), paid character transfer client support (“which may be enabled at a future date”), and API tweaks to “prevent some addons from using communications channels in ways that are contrary to the spirit of the game.”

“This will prevent addons from communicating over custom, player-created chat channels. Addons will still be able to communicate using PARTY, RAID, GUILD, and WHISPER in the same ways that they can now. Additionally, we are going to test a change to permit C_ChatInfo.SendAddonMessage to be called with SAY and YELL, allowing your addons to communicate with players in your immediate vicinity. We support using addons to customize your gameplay experience. However, we also want to ensure that we preserve the social dynamics that make Classic what it is. Ultimately, we decided that the ability for addons to send invisible messages to large, arbitrary groups of players all across Azeroth was something that risked undermining those social dynamics.”

Source: Patch notes

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Oleg Chebeneev

Dang, my twink guildies need me but Im too scared to get addictied with WoW again :/

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styopa

(looks at the AH potential of those twink-gear optimal lvl 19, 29, 39, etc gear I’ve been hoarding)
MUHAHAHAHAH….

(….realizes that I haven’t really been hoarding it, but dumping it thoughtlessly)
/cries

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Pepperzine

Makes me sad I won’t get to enjoy it.

I’m sure I’m in the minority at this point, but I’ve stuck to my word and have yet to provide Blizzard any financial gains since the HK debacle. I still think Classic was a great idea and it still bothers me that I can’t enjoy what I waited so long for, however its not worth supporting them. I get a lot of people think the entire situation is overblown, and even though I’m a US citizen, I have friends who both live in HK as well as have friends who’s family live in HK and as such I can’t cave. Okay, rant over…

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Gary Scott

I respect your POV, but to offer an alternative way to consider things . . . Hong Kong is a part of China now and, as much as that sucks, this kind of conflict is bound to crop up again and again as change happens.

That’s just reality.

A lot of people – meaning individuals, connected people (family, couples, friends, etc.) and companies are caught in the cross-hairs and they are forced to unlearn what they have learned and to readjust to the ever-shifting new realities of the situation. Like many companies out there that do business with China, Blizzard found itself inexplicably stuck in a situation and like most, they had to grapple with how to respond.

I understand the outrage and part of me joins you in that feeling. But I also get that there are not so many set-in-stone corporate policies on something like this yet, and – like us all – Blizzard is just feeling its way through this new reality. They blundered the initial handling of this, sure, but then they did their best to correct themselves.

I give Blizz a pass on this one because, hell, I wouldn’t know what the right response is to every situation like this, either. I also don’t believe that corporations MUST necessarily align themselves with a particular government or government type. Companies are not nation-states, and there needn’t be a sense of patriotism when it comes to corporate stance. Rather, they have to play by the rules of whatever country they are selling into – US policy for US customers, Chinese policy for Chinese customers.

That may not sound ideal, but that’s reality.

I do hope that you can find your own way to “forgive” Blizzard for past mistakes, but if you cannot, I respect that too. Classic is freaking amazing and I wish you were there with us! Perhaps one day you will be.

Peace and love.

Pepperzine
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Pepperzine

I can agree that the initial situation was a tricky one to be in. I think the harshness of their response was definitely intended to appease China (rather than the reasons they purport) and their subsequent response to the reactions they received were an attempt to mitigate the damage to their image while remaining on China’s good side. For me, their apology was shallow and required more honesty than what they provided.

At the end of the day, I am pro-HK and would feel horrible looking my friends in the face knowing I supported Blizzard after they attempted to silence an advocate of their rights and I said I wouldn’t accept that. As a gay man, my friends have stood up for my rights (to the best of their ability, for example by boycotting businesses such as chick-fil-a) and I have an obligation to return the gesture. While I can’t boycott all Chinese manufactured products, and not providing financial support to Blizzard is not likely to have any impact, it is something I can do to show my support.

While I truly was enjoying Classic WoW, returning prior to Blizzard making a full apology acknowledging what their motives actually were (instead of Tiptoeing around it), eliminating the entirety of the suspensions they handed out (to both the athletes and the casters, with an apology), and vowed that they either would not make a political stance in the future or stand wholeheartedly behind their actions with transparency. I know, I know, that’s a tall order that is never going to happen, but it is what it is.

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3dom

Good ol’ times of 12+ hour matches in Alterac Valley back when it was fresh and its rep awarded great 2h hammer for paladin. Funnily, I’ve played two weeks through combination of satellite dish connection with mobile phone’s GPRS – resulting in 2000ms ping.

Techno Wizard
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Techno Wizard

Paying a sub to do what they were doing 15 years ago. Amazing.

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Gary Scott

Honestly? If the core game were anywhere near as good as WoW was 15 years ago, I’d be playing that. As it stands, I cannot even think about spending time in the dumbed down, easy-mode RNG-heavy version of WoW that is retail. I get that there are folks out there who like the retail game as it stands, and that’s great. But to legally revel in the old-school talent trees, endless leveling grind and now – finally – BGs . . . life is truly good once again! P.S. And WEATHER! We have freaking weather again in-game! On high settings it is blinding thunderstorms, snow falling like crazy, atmosphere galore!

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Techno Wizard

My original comment does make me wonder if BFA and Shadowlands are doomed if WoW subbers prefer the game from 15 years ago plus a modern WoW client.

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Gary Scott

Nah, I think retail is fine on it’s own. A single sub gets you access to both games, and personally I don’t think it important to worry too much about which game players are playing – it’s all good for the WoW franchise! From my observation, there are a goodly amount of retail players that hate the idea of Classic every bit as much as I hate Retail. I think both versions will be just fine for a while longer

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Giggilybits

I’m home. I’m finally home.

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johnwillo

I don’t get it. I’ve been playing WoW Classic since it launched, and I am STILL not 13 years younger. What’s up with that, Blizzard?