MMORPGs celebrate The Revenant’s Oscars

    
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If your MMORPG has a Revenant class, you’d best not be missing the opportunity to plug it today, as the movie celebrates its three Oscar wins from last night: one apiece for director Alejandro G. Iñárritu, actor Leo DiCaprio, and cinematographer Emmanuel Lubezki.

World of Warcraft kicked off the festivities this morning:

Guild Wars 2, of course, actually has a Revenant class.

As does Trove:

Did we miss any?

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Karl_Hungus ManastuUtakata Quincha 
“The only good that has come out of this Academy ‘boycott’ is that it has started the conversation about racism in Hollywood at large because the real problem is with the movie studio producers and their marketing departments who have marginalized actors of color with outdated erroneous and archaic assertions.”
…is the only thing I can really agree with here. As I stand by mostly what else I said, and likely not for the reasons you seem to be assuming about my position on this.
As for these liberals, folks seem to throw around that word, but I really don’t think they know what it means….beyond the convenience and obsession of marginalizing their opponents’ opinions. But on the other hand, “forced diversity” seems to be something concocted up by these same peeps who think it’s too politically incorrect to be politically correct. Thus, I really don’t see any of this going on, lol. /tinfoil

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ManastuUtakata Karl_Hungus Quincha 
Cheryl is just trying to save face now in the face of the backlash because that’s her job. Is there racism in the Academy? Probably. There’s racism virtually everywhere to some degree. She’s already made some changes which I agree needed to be made, like not being eligible to vote unless an Academy member has been active within the last ten years in the industry. That should cut down on the old white men stuck in the past, assuming that’s an issue. The list of Academy members is one of the bigger secrets in Hollywood. Maybe that should change too for the sake of transparency, but they’re a private organization so it’s ultimately up to them.
Whether the Academy does or doesn’t nominate based on performance, there’s no way for an outsider to know for sure. It certainly should be based on performance. Nobody should get nominated or not nominated based on the color of their skin. Even if that doesn’t currently reflect our reality, the solution isn’t to start nominating people just because they’re black. They should also perform well in great movies. 
I don’t think the black actors feeling snubbed this year have a right to feel it’s because of race because their performances weren’t Oscar worthy. I’d say that regardless of their skin color. Will Smith is no Chiwetel Ejiofor and Michael B. Jordan is no Denzel Washington, although I’d say he’s well on his way. Idris Elba was perhaps the only one who actually got snubbed this year, but his whole movie got snubbed because it was too indie for the Academy, which is a whole other can of worms not involving race.
The Academy has been setting the example for the rest of Hollywood for years now. I’m not sure if you’ve been paying attention or not. “12 Years a Slave” got exactly the amount of recognition it deserved as did “The Help.” When black movies are great, they get nominated. When black actors are great, they get nominated. I can’t remember a single black movie in decades that should’ve got nominated for something but didn’t. 
But of course, I’m a movie buff and a bit of a snob at that, so my expectations for nominations are very high. The best of the best should get nominated, black or white. And that’s a subjective thing. 
Like, all the Academy love for Jennifer Lawrence? I could live without it. She’s good but she’s not that great. She shouldn’t have been nominated for “Joy” in my opinion. The Academy has also had its collective head up the ass of Spielberg for far too long. “Bridge of Spies” got too much attention this year. “Spotlight” shouldn’t have been in the spotlight either. So I’m not some apologist for the Academy. I don’t agree with many of their nominations. I’m just not convinced the Oscars were “so white” this year because of intentional racism. I don’t think the potential black candidates were that good this year. 
And I could care less how many people “like” my comments. Just because your comments don’t have a bunch of likes doesn’t mean that I’ve been fishing for them. I’m actually surprised I got any likes at all because usually this site is teeming with ignorant liberals who think diversity should be forced. Any time a real liberal like myself comes along and points out their hypocrisy, they get their jimmies rustled. The solution to racism is not more racism!
The only good that has come out of this Academy “boycott” is that it has started the conversation about racism in Hollywood at large because the real problem is with the movie studio producers and their marketing departments who have marginalized actors of color with outdated erroneous and archaic assertions. Even if the Academy nominates a bunch of token black actors next year just to shut everyone up, the real underlying problems of racism in Hollywood will still be there. Hopefully, the dumb liberal masses won’t be too pacified and placated by the skin color spectrum on their TV’s because the real fight is with the cause of the problem, not another symptom.

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Karl_Hungus ManastuUtakata Quincha 
I am sure  the movies industry has lots of its own issues in this department, as Chris Rock this years Academy Awards host eluded to. that is, Hollywood being racist. But we’re not talking about the rest of industry here. We’re talking about a noted award ceremony setting a good example. Which they’re not.
Furthermore, the said president, Cheryl Boone Isaacs, has already admitted openly that Academy does indeed have serious issues with diversity, and is planning to make hopefully proactive changes in response. Making your and your bubs claim of the Academy “nominates based on performance” utterly horseshite bogus.
But that’s what happen when you guys are tripping over each other to roll out the head-up-the-ass nonsense apologetics and denial, a complete disconnect from reality. You guys kinda to need to deal with this.
Yeah, I know…but I am not really stating this for the populist internet upticks though. /shrug

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“There can’t be any large-scale revolution until
there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to
happen inside first.”- Jim Morrison

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Karl_Hungus Yes, but the numbers still reflect the current reality, and that reality has very little to do with anyone’s talent or percentage in society, sadly. You have a very optimistic view of how it should be, one that I agree with in a perfect world, but unfortunately the ‘gatekeepers’ in Hollywood aren’t quite up to speed with your thinking yet. I hate the token ‘diversity’ gay or black guy in a show – I utterly despise and loathe it. I’m not promoting that, and I agree that it’s a really shitty way to say ‘Oh look how diverse we are! They’re only the butt of 80% of our jokes!’ It’s disingenuous and it doesn’t placate any minorities when the Latina keeps being cast as a mouthy maid. As if minorities can’t tell that it’s a bunch of white dudes writing and directing that role.

I think we have to face what our reality is before we can fix anything though, because saying ‘Well, just go off of talent’ isn’t addressing the root issue, which yet again, is that there are many hurdles non-white non-males face to even be able to show off their talent at all. I am not coming from a place of white guilt, I’m just a person who consumes media who would like to see more interesting stories being told by more interesting people. Anyway, I’m done repeating myself, it’s been a good conversation though.

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Rozyn SoMuchMass Karl_Hungus 
Mindlessly focusing on demographic numbers is a good way to never reach true equality because true equality has little to do with numbers and more to do with how people are treated regardless of the numbers. Basing things on talent alone is how you create an equal society. Basing it on arbitrary demographics is how you perpetuate a divided society. 
When you start promoting certain demographics just because some stupid pie chart shows them as a minority, all you’re doing is propping up token representatives in an attempt to placate angry minorities so you can relieve the burden of your white guilt. It’s cheap, shallow, and it undermines the efforts of black actors who actually took the time and effort to hone their craft. 
If Will Smith gets nominated just because he’s black, it is a slap in the face to the Chiwetel Ejiofor’s of the world who deserve to get nominated because of their talent first and foremost. Who you are should take precedence over what you are because what you really are, is a human just like everyone else and biologically speaking, race represents less than 2% of what separates us from each other. We are all from one race, the human race, and in order for us to ever reach that paradigm in society, we need to start treating each other like humans first instead of black humans and white humans. You’re not going to fix racism by fighting it with more racism.

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SoMuchMass Karl_Hungus Rozyn I linked this above but I’ll put it here too http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/02/28/389259335/diversity-sells-but-hollywood-remains-overwhelmingly-white-male 
While sure, maybe 66% of America identifies as white, there isn’t even close to equal representation in our media. It’s not simply a matter of proportions, as the study shows. A lot of these premises of ‘well people should just earn it on talent alone’ and ‘well it’s just natural to see more whites because they’re the majority’ are perfectly fine notions, but seriously flawed because they’re based on an inherently equal society – which unfortunately we are not even close to reaching.

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CloakingDonkey Rozyn Peregrine_Falcon Oh wow, I didn’t think I’d have to back up that statement lol. Here ya go http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/02/28/389259335/diversity-sells-but-hollywood-remains-overwhelmingly-white-male

Your second paragraph completely misses the point. Once again, people aren’t asking for participation trophies just for being a certain skintone or gender. That is a very tired, very old deflection tactic used to minimize deeper issues. They’re saying there’s a problem within the industry where many talented folks can’t even get a nomination because they aren’t having the opportunity given to them because they’re not seen as marketable.

Here’s an interesting conversation between Lupita Nyong’o and Trevor Noah, especially the part where Noah talks about trying to get more diversity on his show and why that didn’t work when he simply went through the usual channels. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/fashion/lupita-nyongo-and-trevor-noah-table-for-three.html?_r=0

“When I was looking for new people to try on the show, the network sent out all their tentacles. And people sent in audition tapes. And 95 percent of them were white and male. […] So I went to all the young comedians I knew — black, Hispanic, female, whatever — and I said, “Are you interested?” And they all said: “Are you crazy? Of course, I’m interested.” So I asked, “Why didn’t you audition?” And they said, “We didn’t know about it.” But they told me they’d sent it out to all the agents and managers. And they all went: “Oh, that’s where you made the mistake. We can’t get agents or managers.” We can say we want diversity, but there’s this little roadblock that no one tells you about.”

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SoMuchMass Karl_Hungus Armsbend 
Who cares what portion of the audience is what? Empire was the highest rated scripted program on television last year, beating out The Big Bang Theory which is about as white of a show as it gets. If the blackest show beats the whitest show when whites outnumber blacks, then logically, white people must enjoy the black show too.

And the same Academy that’s responsible for the nominations this year is the same Academy that was responsible for the nominations every year when great performances from black actors were recognized. They also elected a black woman to be their president because they’re so racist. But the problem with both this year and last year is that the performances just weren’t that great. Everyone last year expected “Selma” to win big just because of the subject matter but that movie didn’t have nearly as much heart as “12 Years a Slave”. This year it was even weaker. 
And if it’s somehow a generational issue, then I’m actually glad because if the Academy was in touch with the Millennial crowd, Seth Rogen would be nominated for Best Actor every year.

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Karl_Hungus SoMuchMass Armsbend You keep bringing up Empire, but 67% and some episodes 70%+ of the audience is African-American.  Is that actual diversity?  Honestly I think it is more of an old vs. young issue.  The older people probably responsible for the Oscar nominations are not in touch with the MIllennial crowd.
‘Empire’s’ Growth Spurt Fueled by Young Women, Urban Markets