Massively Opinionated: How does FFXIV pull off its sub model in 2015?

    
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Final Fantasy XIV has managed to keep its subscription payment model when the majority of MMOs in the industry have adopted something else. It even launched a full-blown expansion to the delight of Final Fantasy fans everywhere. The success of this game has really astounded many people, so it’s worth discussing in this week’s Massively Opinionated vidcast! Host Larry Everett has invited two experts in games journalism who focus on Final Fantasy: MMO Bomb Editor-in-Chief Mike Byrne and Massively OP‘s own Eliot Lefebvre.

The rules are simple: Four questions on this week’s topic were delivered to the panelists before the show, giving them ample time to prepare their arguments. Our host judges and awards one point to the panelist deemed the winner of each question, and the panelist with the most points at the end of the show wins.

This week’s questions

1. What is the most universally appealing part of the Heavensward expansion? (06:15)

2. What is the primary reason FFXIV can stay a subscription game when most other MMOs are B2P or F2P? (26:18)

3. What’s the most badass raid boss in XIV? (41:48)

4. Which XIV class and job are the best for new players? (56:10)

This week’s panelists

Mike Byrne
MMO Bomb
Twitter: Magickmann1

Eliot Lefebvre
Massively OP
Twitter: Eliot_Lefebvre

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SasaroSaro
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SasaroSaro

It might not seem like it due to its fairly large sub numbers but FFXIV is actually occupying pretty well-defined niche – that of the “luxury” product. SE provide an extremely polished experience, are respectful toward their customers and have clear up-front prices with no room for bargaining or scamming – all things that were normal ten years ago, but they stand apart in today’s landscape of half-finished F2P titles and bratty toxicity. The typical FFXIV player is somewhat older and more well-off than average, doesn’t mind paying for quality entertainment, and is actually grateful that the paywall is keeping the kids out. There aren’t many other games out there that would appeal to them in the same way.

AaronTallman
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AaronTallman

they also don’t have a development debt to pay down like most games. All FFXIV development has been funded 100% inhouse, they have no debtors chasing them and pushing them into F2P cashshop territory.

thatchefdude
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thatchefdude

Stone Crow Android phones far outsell iOS devices, Apple dominates in sales of appstore apps, not sales of actual hardware…. Google and its hardware partners are killing Apple in hardware sales.

thatchefdude
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thatchefdude

It pulls it off by being better than 95% of the competition, and therefore is first in line (ok maybe second after WoW), to people who want to pay a sub and be done with it…..

AGx
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AGx

“HOW DOES FFXIV PULL OFF ITS SUB MODEL IN 2015?”

Simple, they created a  good core game and they don’t give you a choice. If you want to play it, you pay it.
Seriously, the game is worth being paid for and they aren’t undervaluing the content they’ve made.

thebrowncar45
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thebrowncar45

Frostington I’m with you, I much prefer my MMOs to be either P2P or B2P. I guess I just never really understood how one can expect to play a game for free, especially an MMO, a game genre that usually has games of the largest scope in the gaming industry.

SirMysk
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SirMysk

ZenDadaist ^ This.

SaderX
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SaderX

Sorenthaz karmamule  Yeah and people can also see that there are some level of Pride in Yoshi-P. Still remember that talk he did when he said he will stop FF XIV (1.X) and remake into ARR. And he step in and fix it. You don’t see a lot of producer these days that show pride in making and fixing a game.

SaderX
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SaderX

ColdinT Polyanna  from the way I see it FF XIV didn’t drag the whole franchise down unless you are only talking about FF XIV only as FF it was already down for sometime, what FF XIV ARR did was the other way bring life back to the franchise. I dare to say that this is the 2nd Final Fantasy that really had bring Square back from the dead.

Thatwonguy
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Thatwonguy

There’s no denying that most likely a majority of players of ff14 are have also played and love ff games. However, there is still fun to be had for people new to the series.