Destiny 2’s playerbase is melting down over holiday lockboxes in Eververse

Destiny 2 just can’t seem to stop pissing off everyone. Its Dawning holiday event, detractors argue, is overtly designed as a moneygrab focused around the Eververse cash shop, which is apparently dispensing paid holiday lockboxes that include special holiday cosmetics as well as game-affecting buff items. Adding insult to injury, Bungie is locking almost all of the holiday rewards up that way, rather than doing what a lot of MMOs do and drop holiday loot during play.

MMO players might be wondering what the problem is since many MMOs do this, but then very few of us pay $60 for a box for other MMOs, either, and when we do (say, games like World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy XIV), this isn’t the monetization situation we see.

The new outrage, on top of the existing ill-will in the community and the overall anti-lockbox/anti-exploitation atmosphere engendered by Star Wars Battlefront, has led to a virtual riot on the forums. As I type this, literally every single thread on the first page of the forums is a demand for Bungie to remove Eververse, with thousands of collective upvotes.

Merry Christmas!

Source: Jimquisition, official forums. Thanks, Danny!
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Eamil

SidAlpha did a video on this topic towards the end of last month and he went back 30+ pages on the forums, all of them exactly like that, before he just stopped digging trying to find where it ended. It’s insane that Bungie can’t seem to go longer than 2-3 weeks without some new controversy.

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Rolan Storm

ROFL

Like, almost literally. :D

Estranged
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Estranged

While Sub games can have 12 month droughts and we applaud the sub!

ihatevnecks
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ihatevnecks

We do? Where? People on this site, staff and readers, are constantly on Blizzard’s ass for their content droughts after final raid patches.

Estranged
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Estranged

Nah, sub games were voted the best business model.

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rafael12104

Found these meme of the Eververse vendor. Heh. Can’t even tell it is a meme.

View post on imgur.com

K38FishTacos
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K38FishTacos

I’m just surprised that anyone who is still playing this game after the previous b.s. would be upset about it. How could the remaining player base even give a shit? They obviously don’t care what Bungie does, so is it the player base or just redditors who are “melting down”?

ihatevnecks
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ihatevnecks

It’s both. The problem is, especially for console players, there’s nothing else specifically like this game. Yes you have Warframe and Division, both of which are third-person action games, but they’re still very different games from Destiny, both mechanically and conceptually. For the people who want the space magic power fantasy, those other games simply don’t compare.

D2 is really the only game a couple of my friends play, specifically because they’re firemen and EMTs and have weird days off, so if they can all get on together and run a few strikes then that’s an easy and enjoyable thing for them to do. On the other hand, they’re still pissed and quite bitter over how Bungie’s completely mishandled the game.

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Dug From The Earth

DESTINY 2’S PLAYERBASE IS MELTING DOWN

There, I fixed it for you

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Humble DG

F#&% lockboxes and those that put them in their games. This business strategy sucks in all ways.

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rafael12104

It is hard to do. Very difficult to make the previous version of a game in a franchise better and better with its new and improved successor. But with every Destiny 2 update, Bungie is managing to do just that.

Congrats Bungie and thanks for the ShitShow!

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Sushi Maru

If you don’t want something, don’t buy something. Do all of these kids run up and down shopping malls screaming about stores selling goods? Yea, you paid retail price for a game. You experienced what was promised for that money. So the company can’t create more goods for that game and try to sell them? They can’t market those goods how they choose? (grab bag type of mystery box system)

I say again, if you don’t like it, don’t buy it. You have the game you paid for and can pretend none of this is happening, it impacts you in no way

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Pepperzine

You know, just like when you see someone being bullied or taken advantage of. Just ignore it and walk away, it doesn’t affect you in any way. Just pretend none of that is happening /sarcasm

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Armsbend

Instead of writing ‘Unsafe At Any Speed’, which brought about safety belts in cars – which has saved millions of lives across the decades, Ralph Nader should have shut his goddamned mouth and just biked to work every day if he didn’t want to drive.

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Humble DG

Except when you go to the mall and go to buy a shirt at the Gap, you don’t most of the time end up with a stick of gum.

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Nick // Genghis

I could see this being a Black Mirror dystopian future reality episode. Easily. Imagine going to the store for the shirt you WANT, but get stuck with a more common, uniformed version of the shirt and you have to work in some fashion for credits to re-try a roll at getting the more unique shirt.

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Skoryy

Normally, that’s my advice, but putting all the holiday stuff in a lootbox? That’s honestly pretty skeevy.

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A Dad Supreme

As someone who has both games, just get The Division which everyone at MassivelyOP seems to hate with a passion for some reason.

Much better game, much less headache without any lockbox scandals or claims they are bleeding the players dry.

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7BitBrian

I really enjoyed The Division but was disappointed that they never released any new story content at all. For all Destiny 2’s faults at least it has given me some more story and single player fun since launch.

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A Dad Supreme

For all Destiny 2’s faults at least it has given me some more story and single player fun since launch.

I guess that’s the thing.

It has a little less overall story than Destiny, since they’ve had time to flesh out both versions, but it has far more content, especially PvE content for players than either Destiny.

Survival, Underground and now Resistance modes are far better than anything Destiny has as an “endgame”, which is just a raid or two.

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deekay_plus

honstly division’;s custscens are shorter but better crfted and more enjoyable. every destiny 2 custcence i was ready for it to be over long before it was and get on with things. and then ANOTHER CUTSCENE. omg.

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rafael12104

I don’t hate The Division. In fact, I enjoyed it thoroughly while I was playing. But, I left because, at the time, the game was rife with cheaters and exploiters. But I believe that was sorted out long ago.

I agree it is a better game, nonetheless.

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Danny Smith

The division is a pretty fun ass game. But the story just fizzles out and everything after feels like side content. I still revisit it but every time i watch the opening i feel like we missed a far better game set during the outbreak as the first wave.

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Sorenthaz

Eh… I tried to get back into The Division. Played it for a little bit, I’m like 50% done with the story I think and around level 17 or something. Everything at/below my level pretty much felt like it took way too long to kill (i.e. I couldn’t kill basic dudes with a full clip before reloading) and that it dealt too much damage if I wasn’t hiding behind cover. My gear is primarily blue quality and is the best that I’ve gotten drops-wise, so something is really fudgy there when I have difficulty playing solo.

Destiny 2 meanwhile at least has the Bungie feel down. Playing it makes me feel like I’m playing Halo 2 or 3 again which is a little nostalgic and feels good all around. While leveling at least the game doesn’t feel like a chore and it doesn’t take several seconds just to kill basic enemies. Not only that but I actually see other players in the same areas as me when I’m not focusing on story quests.

The Division meanwhile feels empty and more like what I’d expect out of Assassin’s Creed where I have a map full of “collect this” or “do this” with matchmade missions being scattered about here and there. If I had to choose between the two out of personal enjoyment Destiny 2 wins simply ’cause it feels overall better and the game world isn’t solely inhabited by me when I’m not in specific areas.

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K38FishTacos

I prefer The Division, but I appreciate your view as a fair and good description of why a Destiny player might not enjoy The Division. The Division is a cover shooter while Destiny gives you this recharging shield and is about pew pew.

I wouldn’t recommend The Division to the pew pew crowd. It is a type of shooter/gear grinder and that’s about all they have in common, in my opinion.

I enjoy The Division, because I like having to think more about my build and the tactical situation before I take on certain challenges, rather than just running in for pew pew.

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Sorenthaz

I mean I liked The Division when I played it at launch, but coming back into it it feels like even common solo encounters are bullet spongey.

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Nick // Genghis

So beyond the idea that the entirety of both games (D2 and Div) the story missions were so bland, boring, and easily completed it felt like an extended tutorial until you hit cap… I agree with you.

The Div’s recent update is SO much better and completely eclipses D2’s DLC in my mind, it’s hilarious. A 3 yo game releases a free 8th major update (in a string of pretty solid ones since launch but nothing to really bring people back extendedly), and adds some pretty drastic variety of content, you can’t help but wonder what is going on at Bungie and whether they even remotely pay attention to the things that other Good Guy TM devs are doing with their product(s).

At least Mayhem PvP game mode is really fun and just goofy, but completely unbalanced.

deekay_plus
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deekay_plus

to be fair most of the division’s paid dlc’s are pretty shit and it’s only between and after them they got their shit together.

that being said as with everyone else mentioning bungie should’ve fucking learned from d1.

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Nick // Genghis

I think that the addition of the higher-tier, gear score based end game system, the underground additions, the additions of the gun tweak benches, the dark zone improvements, and incursions, to name a few, seemed more worth the wait than not. Timing wise? Sure maybe a little too late, but if they serviced the game for the next 1-2 years before even mentioning a sequel and came with a viable product down the road as Div2, I might just buy it.

I never really care about DLC/season pass content because if it’s a game (usually MMOs) that I know I will likely revisit on the regular, I don’t mind paying up front to get access to more or newer content. But that’s a preference of mine and how I operate with games and my cyclical habits.