Global Chat: Catching the WoW Classic fever

    
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You’ve got the fever, she’s got the fever, everyone’s got the fever for WoW Classic these days! The launch announcement and beta testing has the MMO community returning to a more vanilla experience and finding much to love there.

Belghast found himself surprised to be installing the MMO and actually enjoying it. Blessing of Kings said that comparisons with the modern client are unavoidable: “It’s a unique opportunity to compare and contrast the two versions, rather than relying on nostalgia and unreliable memories.” And Wilhelm noted that seeing the pre-Cataclysm world may be one of the title’s strongest draws.

Of course, it should be admitted here that not everyone is feeling the hype. Stargrace said that the “grass is always greener” when you think about going back to older games like these. “As soon as I go back I remember why I’m glad that games are fluid and constantly changing,” she notes.

It's gone.

Welshtroll: A new hero rises from the ashes

“So I’m not gonna lie to you, the fact that my son has just spent 30 minutes rolling up a character to play with Munki, makes me giddy with excitement and pleased as punch. Yea he may not like it and the graphical engine is showing it’s age but at least he can experience the multiplayer and teaming elements, discover the back stories with Munki and I.”

Me vs. Myself and I: World War Z impressions

“Overall I’d say that World War Z is a game that feels like Left 4 Dead and Killing Floor had a baby. It mixes elements of many successful games that I’ve had a blast playing. I see this being in the regular rotation for the foreseeable future.”

Superior Realities: ESO’s Necromancer shouldn’t be a class, and I still kind of want to play one

“When Elder Scrolls Online announced the new Necromancer class, I groaned inwardly. Not because I think it’s problematic from a lore perspective — according to some people it is, but I’m not invested enough to care — but because this game doesn’t need more classes.”

Unidentified Signal Source: Impression of existing FFXIV healers

“I finished leveling White Mage recently and started working on Astrologian. Once at 70 I’ll have all the healers at the pre-expansion cap. I certainly feel, based on current experience, that I’m not a huge fan of White Mage. This isn’t to say that it doesn’t have its place, because I also do not agree that all the healers “play the same.” For healing and basic DPS, yeah, they have very similar toolkits.”

MMO Bro: Exploring MMO group roles beyond the trinity

“Buffers and debuffers were more common in the early days of MMORPGs, but they’ve fallen out of vogue. I understand why; just standing around and throwing out buffs and debuffs isn’t the most exciting gameplay around. But I think these roles could be designed in such a way that they are compelling. I’m a fan of making buffs and debuffs much stronger, but much shorter in duration.”

Aywren Sojourner: FFXIV housing — recreation room

“This isn’t actually a new-new room for our FC house, but one I just put some final touches on, making it ready to post about. I still think there can be some additional wall decor added, but I’m holding off to see what the new expansion releases for housing before investing a whole lot more.”

Every day there are tons of terrific, insightful, and unusual articles posted across the MMO gaming blogosphere — and every day, Justin reads as many as he can. Global Chat is a sampling of noteworthy essays, rants, and guides from the past few weeks of MMO discourse.
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Gene Elder

Im enjoying my return to Wrath of the Lich King on a private server. I played some vanilla servers and they were good, but vanilla is still to dated for me, Wrath was the big one.. except for the dungeon finder. That was Blizzards biggest WoW mistake. It made dungeoning a sterile, stagnant experience where nobody wanted to talk to anybody, or use genuine gameplay mechanics to “solve” the dungeon as a group. After the DF, it all became a silent zergfest.
So while Classic might not be as story rich, I have heard many people talking about the QoL changes they have left in. As long as that does not include the DF, I might return one day, just not today.

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Bruno Brito

RDF is a good tool. Crossrealm was the true mistake. If RDF was confined to the server, it would be waaaay better.

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Minimalistway

Classic have no QoL that wasn’t there back in 2005, the only thing they added is loot trading for 2 hours for your group, other than that everything is the same.

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Castagere Shaikura

If you have a sub running in Wow then you should play it. Coming back to sub just for this is a tough one for me.

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IronSalamander8 .

Several friends have wanted to make a guild a classic. I dislike BfA but I remember classic and it wasn’t actually good so I’m debating on bothering. If we have to use the old models, if trolls can’t be warlocks, if I can’t play a goblin, etc. I have very little interest in this thing. I played the beta, went to live for a bit, left in irritation to stay with CoH and EQ1. Even back then WoW had a terrible community and it always felt like simplified EQ. It is more simplified now than at launch of course, but even then it was just not that hard to play.

In comparison, I’m loving playing CoX again because I always liked it better than WoW in the first place and because it was shut down despite it still having an active playerbase whereas I can play WoW right if I wanted to. Also they didn’t give us Issue 1 of the game or whatever, we got a late game version of it after many improvements to it. In contrast WoW has been up and down, over its life and going back this far is a bit off-putting to me; I dislike many things they’ve changed over the years but for me classic/vanilla, isn’t a good place to be either.

It will do well I’m sure if what I’ve seen about people’s reactions to it are any indication, but also if they leave it frozen in a pre-BC state you’re going to run of stuff to do relatively quickly, even at the slower pace of those days. They’ve definitely made improvements since launch but also a lot of stumbles as well.

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I know how you feel, same for me as well “it always felt like simplified EQ” i just throw a 2 on the end.

You are right in that it wasn’t hard to play at all, and is what kept me in the beginning, i was blown away that it was so simple, a mmorpg this simple wow! no pun intended.

Not trying to spur anyone but it felt like a joke and when i read that peeps thought raids were “hard” omfg that always made me laugh. Hey and that’s cool they prolly never knew games like EQ and EQ2 even existed, and to them if they enjoyed it, then all is good.

So yeah, i’m dropping the sub and going to check out classic, but i agree, i think for me though i’d prefer a frozen wrath server, but who knows going in with an open mind and maybe it will actually feel challenging after years and years of push button i win mmorpg’s we’ve had to endure over the last decade +, and older so, it might hit the spot, trying to stay positive on this lmao.

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Bruno Brito

If it doesn’t make you have fun, don’t play it. Play stuff that puts a smile in your face.

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xpsync

Yea for sure. It was when i read stuff like that i chuckled in that, oh man if you only knew, and if they thought that was hard then the content i was doing is certainly not going to be your cup.

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xpsync

All i’ve been playing over the last 4 months, maybe more, is SWG:L and CoX, emu’s are the ticket.

With wow classic i’ve caught the fever too, i know there are emu’s but had no desire or interest, but official classic servers for some reason got me interested.

What’s good to know is if this clicks and blizz f”s it up i have the ultimate solution, emu.

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drew who

I think the chances are I will play WoW classic until one of the newer games in development like Camelot Unchained are released or until Blizzard decide it’s a good idea to put looking for group tools onto classic pvp servers and kill world pvp overnight again .

However if I am in a decent guild in WoW chances are newer games like Camelot unchained might not even get a look in .

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Ashfyn Ninegold

I’m all in.

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angrakhan

Personally I have no interest in WoW Classic because I don’t feel like I have anything I need to go accomplish or prove there. “Back in the day” I auditioned for and earned the right to be off tank in a hardcore raid guild back when Molten Core was the pinnacle of content in the game. The audition was to main tank UBRS which I did without a single wipe. After a few 16+ hour days on Saturdays running through Molten core I decided I had better things to do with my life than piss it away on that. So, no, I don’t think WoW classic or WoW sound particularly appealing. I certainly don’t have any more capacity on my Saturdays now that I’m married and have two kids than I did back then when I was just dating my now wife. Anyway, I just feel like I’ve been there and done that with Classic. I understand why people want to go back. I’m just not one of them.

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Skoryy

Every time I hear someone thrilled to play City of Heroes with their kids, I get a warm and fuzzy feeling.

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All these older games have a lot of downtime. I played a Warrior in Vanilla, and combat was sloooow when I didn’t have a pocket healer. So many bandages, and food.

Anyone bothered to look at the differences in pace between those 1st gen mmos and newer ones?

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Sorenthaz

Not gonna lie, I am very eagerly anticipating Classic coming in August. Whether I’ll actually make my longterm goals a reality or not there will remain to be seen, but I’m stoked to essentially get a second life in that world in an official capacity rather than relying on private servers.

It really does speak volumes though that people are actually looking forward to Blizzard going backward rather than continuing to go forward in the direction they’ve taken current WoW in. Hopefully the devs of retail can take some big heapings of humble pie and think about what they can do to try and get back closer to the happy middle ground WoW was once in. Classic is obviously on the opposite end of the spectrum but it’s the step in a direction that may give retail WoW a chance to shift its own direction to a better one.

Or it’s just a way for them to get more numbers and money during a dry spell where they’re creatively struggling to come up with anything new and exciting, thus they’re hoping that by revisiting the old greats (Classic + WC3 Reforged) they’ll have some extra time to get their shit together. Who knows, honestly.

I just hope that this ends up serving as a wake-up call to Blizzard rather than just another venue for them to get extra subscriptions.

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I am lucky enough to be reminded of what it’s like when an mmorpg takes the reins again.

First SWG:L boom, then CoX boom; and i’m not done with swg yet ffs, but cox totally took control, to where i really need to come to a head clearing moment and pick one, can’t do both right an proper with the other on the mind constantly.

I think I’ll know in the first day, week for sure, month will be certain if there will be any long term plans with it.

I’m kinda hoping long term they release the next expansion as another frozen in time, so you have classic, then bc classic, then wrath classic… and you can do a one time transfer of your toon if capped to the next classic, the og char always stays as is in its birth server, in a continuation style of mass effect. Then you can decide where you want to stop, or move ahead too, but frozen servers remain frozen.

What if classic is a new direction, as in, OK simplifying the fuck out of an already easy game at launch was not a good direction in the end, so they start to release a whole new direction of difficulty and entirely new worlds meaning new different expansions always becoming more increasingly challenging. yea right…