Disney has canceled Marvel Heroes, Marvel has ended its relationship with Gazillion

We can now confirm this as real, following a statement made by a Marvel representative to Massively OP. We’re updating below.

According to Kotaku, Disney has canceled Marvel Heroes – on all platforms – and nuked its business partnership with Gazillion. Here’s the message Kotaku says it received:

“We regret to inform our Marvel Heroes fans that we have ended our relationship with Gazillion Entertainment, and that the Marvel Heroes games will be shut down. We would like to sincerely thank the players who joined the Marvel Heroes community, and will provide any further updates as they become available.”

The news will not come as a shock to MMORPG players, as we’ve been chronicling the mess over at Gazillion for weeks now. We’d gone an entire month since the last formal update from the team, social media accounts have lain dormant, Halloween was bungled, negative Steam reviews were flooding in, the PC playerbase shrunk to its smallest size in four and a half years, the Thor Ragnarok promotion never happened, two community reps for the studio departed, and accusations flew from former studio employees in regard to “inappropriate conduct” toward female employees on the part of current CEO Dave Dohrmann, whose removal from the studio became the goal of some activist players.

While Gazillion issued us a statement earlier this month claiming – bizarrely – that “the company is functioning normally,” it downplayed the standing allegations as “unsubstantiated internet accusations.” The studio also refused to answer direct questions about the company’s leadership, communication plans, and missed updates. All the company said last week was that it had no news and would update everyone when it could. Reportedly, a studio rep reiterated that statement this past weekend and told in-person visitors to stay away from the company HQ (thread now deleted).

This week, former Creative Director Jeff “Doomsaw” Donais – the developer, you’ll recall, who lodged the most direct and public accusations against Dohrmann – returned to the official forums, and Redditors circulated a leak from a PC test server, which we now assume will never launch.

Kotaku also claims that “several individuals who work on the game were asked not to come into the office” earlier this week.

Update: When we reached out to Gazillion for comment, a Marvel representative told Massively OP,

“We regret to inform our Marvel Heroes fans that we have ended our relationship with Gazillion Entertainment, and that the Marvel Heroes games will be shut down. We would like to sincerely thank the players who joined the Marvel Heroes community, and will provide any further updates as they become available.”

It is not clear how long the game will remain online or why the cash shop remains active. Our sympathies to all players and staff of the studio.

Get caught up on our detailed coverage of this story up to now:

Update: The official shutdown date will be December 31st, according to Gazillion.

“We’re sad to inform our players and our entire Marvel Heroes family that Marvel Heroes Omega will be shutting down. The Marvel Heroes servers will stay on until Dec 31, 2017, and we’ll be removing real money purchases as soon as possible. Players will be able to play the game entirely for free once this sunset period commences. We will share the exact date things go completely free as soon as we can. We’ve had the privilege of entertaining and collaborating with our players for over four years. We’re extremely humbled by that privilege and wanted to get this message out: Thank you. Thank you to our players, our tireless employees, and everyone involved in the life of Marvel Heroes, Marvel Heroes 2015, Marvel Heroes 2016, and Marvel Heroes Omega.”

Thanks, TJ. :/

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plannick

you should really mine discord for info.. apparently the pc license had ran out already and they were renegotiating it whilst making the console version.

MichaelMayhem – Today at 05:40
so… when you build a ‘new’ game with an existing one below it with 3+ years of players, everything’s a lot harder to build. You have to take into consideration what every single action you do is going to affect a player’s Live accounts. What happens if you change this item, delete this power, delete this item, delete this entire map/story mission
And… something happened… that made us kinda not care about that for awhile.

Zurick – Today at 05:41
Basically people were kind of wrong about the PC contract and it had already expired. We were renegotiating it while creating the console version and basically this axe almost came to PC about 6 months ago
So when we thought for sure we were going to be closingn the PC version
we started to blow up those systems to improve them for console
We were about 3 days from informing you guys about the wind down on PC when it was renewed

MichaelMayhem – Today at 05:43
it was a sudden “it’s saaaaved!”, and while most of the office was celebrating… I knew what damage we’d done. I knew there was no going back.

Zurick – Today at 05:43
and when we got the news internally we basically went
lol
“Well fuck. This puts a new wrinkle in everything we just blew up”

MichaelMayhem – Today at 05:43
that’s why it took so long for the PC to get the console’s changes. We had to work backwards to make it actually work

Zurick – Today at 05:47
Well, when we thought PC was dead
We stopped asking “but what about the pc people with these items ect”
since that question stopped existing
and in turn we blew shit up trying to make it better
Every time we wanted to change something we had to think about what you guys had previously earned before that
I honestly believe we needed a few more months (about 6-8) to turn things arounnd

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Desiree Nevado

Hello, we are trying to get noticed by Disney to let them know we love the game and we would like an alternative solution to continue playing
https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-save-marvel-heroes

If you could share and sign the petition that would be awesome.
Also, there is this twitter account that is trying to concentrate the affected players and make the hashtag #SaveMarvelHeroes popular:

We know it’s really really difficult to be noticed by Disney, but it’s only 3 or 4 clicks to contribute to the cause.

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boredinBC

A day late and a dollar short but…

I want to issue my heartfelt condolences to all of the people at Gazillion who worked their butts off for years to bring us one of the best games in genre. I was sad to see the game decline, but I know that it wasn’t for lack of love or effort on your part.

Thank you for giving us a game that was stuffed to the brim with fun, over the top, unapologetic fan service.

May you have the good fortune to work for and with people who love video games as much as you, and may they have the vision to just let you do you.

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Suikoden

Dangit. So Marvel backs out of Cryptic for Gazillion, and look what happens.

So all that work on the BUE, and the console port, all flushed down the toilet. I do feel bad for the console players that are enjoying the game, spent money on the game, and are now getting screwed even harder because they only had it for less than a year.

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Vicarious Fan

While I haven’t played in years (not enough new content ) kind of bumbed i bought the Founders Pack.

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Neurotic

Very sad news, although personally I was most upset when they ended Marvel SHSO back in January. For me, that game captured the spirit of colourful comic book fun much as the LEGO Marvel games do — precisely because they don’t take themselves so seriously.

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Baemir

This game was one of the best online ARPGs, what a shame.

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kidwithknife

Sad news, I used to be a huge fan of this game and thought the much-maligned “biggest update ever” was genuinely a huge improvement. I did some digging around and found the allegations against their CEO really credible though, and Gaz’s response to them was about as bad as it could be without just saying “Creepy harassers are awesome, we want to hire more of them!” Given that the shutdown appears to have been forced by Marvel/Disney, I feel pretty safe assuming it’s a reaction to those allegations and not purely a reaction to declining revenue. So it’s sad, but overall seeing a game I used to love shut down is a price I’m okay with paying to make the industry just a little less welcoming for horrible asshats.

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Simon Morris

I’ll be honest – never liked isometric MMOs, and MUO never felt like a proper personalised experience with multiple versions of the same character standing around or in teams, i thought that a really unimmersive and dumb decision.
In my opinion Marvel completely missed the point of a superhero MMO and that was players creating their own heroes and villains to team with and battle against the official Marvel characters. DCUO does it, Champions does it (albeit less successfully because Cryptic can’t be arsed to develop for it anymore much). As a superhero fan i was gutted that Marvel and Gazillion so spectaculatley missed the ball and whole point of the superhero MMO.
I’m glad i never invested time nor money in it but i feeel for those who liked it and have lost out. Disney sure as hell are brutal with their culling.

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rahkeesh

Good thing they never even tried to make an MMO or call it one?

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Simon Morris

Pontificate much?.
MassivelyOP covers many games that are not technically MMOs, albeit multiplayer and online.

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qweazdak

Disney, just don’t give the IP to EA, k? :

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amkosh

It probably will go to a pure mobile dev, bunch of iPad/iPhone/Android games incoming.

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Suikoden

Oh please, no no no no no no no

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Wakkander

On the one hand I put a lot of money into the game over the years so I’m irritated I won’t be able to play it anymore, on the other hand after they pushed to consoles and updated it for that, I didn’t play anymore anyways.

I’d love to know the exact details on why, but I hope those at the company will find new work .

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Mike Pieniaszek

i was a huge fan of this game. back when they used to sell all the heroes for the year when announced. i would not only purchase all the heroes and teamups in bulk. but i would buy the deluxe packs that included all the costumes and stash for the year as well.

overall since launch ive spent nearly 800-1k usd on this game. and prob another 50-60 on the console version.

the thing that shocks me is that disney terminated the contract early. we were supposed to have at least another year-year and a half of this game b4 they had to renew.

im guessing disney didnt want there name tied to a company the condones sexual harrasment

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Neurotic

Edit: Ok, I found the MOP article about it. :D

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kidwithknife

I think your guess is exactly correct.

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Ukrutor

Why shut it down, anyway? Got the playerbase, got the business model, got the presence on Steam. Rename it to “Amazing Heroes”, rename the characters, reskin the models and keep rolling. :-P

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SirUrza

It doesn’t have the player base though. It did ok on console but wrecked the pc player base. On top of that Gaz doesn’t seem to be doing anything about the CEO’s conduct even though it appears to be something that’s been known for years.

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ernost

I hope EA learns a lesson from this. Disney will not tolerate anything that tarnishes their good name.

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Skoryy

Sorry to see this one go. I had some fun times with She-Hulk, Spider-Gwen, and War Machine cleaning up the mean streets of New York and Madripoor. Inventory management was a pain, however, and if I played too long I’d lose feeling in my hand. My condolences to all my fellow players, as well as the non-shitty devs that will be losing jobs.

Meanwhile, Champions Online outlives another super hero MMO. :o

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Suikoden

Yep. DCUO is crap now that Daybreak is in control. Marvel Heroes is done. Guess I’ll see you all in Champions…

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Jeffrey Meade

Funny you mentioned Champions Online. I played it on and off the first year it was out and i never thought it was that good. I was sure it would be gone by now and instead it outlasted at least a couple of other superhero themed games. Very amusing.

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Richard de Leon III

One thing Champions Online has that is appealing to superhero fans is its open power system, prolly the closest thing to most superhero pen and paper rpgs which are for the most part classless. One thing i hated about marvel is not being able to build my own hero.

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Jack Pipsam

Wasn’t Champions Online originally meant to be a licensed Marvel MMO as well during development? Seems like the switch saved the title in the long-run as it is just keeping on keeping on.

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abyssalstar

Yeah, Marvel backed out, and Cryptic had to scramble for a replacement, so they bought the IP for the Champions tabletop RPG.

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Jack Pipsam

Oh interesting, I didn’t know Champions was an existing IP.

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The Champions pen and paper rpg is actually quite good, i dont recall reading any of the comics tho, so i cant attest to the quality of those.

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Simon Morris

80% of the locales in Champions P&P rpg are missing from the MMO – that’s what makes Cryptic’s stewardship of the IP so shambolic:
8 years on and still there is no Shamballah, no Agharti, no Arcadia:City of Gold, no Well of the Worlds, no Sunday Pond, no Hudson City, no ‘Gateway’ Until Space Station, no Atlantis, no Lyonesse.

And paradoxically Cryptic Studios owning the entirety of the Champions IP has worked against the players re: Cryptic actually bothering to develop for it much past maintainance mode.
Not only because of the above missing locales to properly represent the Champions Universe – but also because there has been close to no expansion of the powersets for absolutely years, nevermind the abandoning of the penthouse/superbase plans and before that the regular content that was the episodic comic series.

Star Trek online is leased to Cryptic by CBS/Universal – and Cryptic know that if they stop developing for it CBS will yank the license out from underneath their feet – so they keep busy with it.
Champions Online they can afford to be ‘lazy as’ with…. so they haven’t bothered with it in years compared to STO.

I also believe Disney are pulling MUO because it is part of their larger scheme to consolidate bring everything under the Disney banner.
They will announce progress on the Avengers Project before too long.
Same thing is happening with Netflix and all the Marvel and StarWars content – we all have 1 year of it where it is before it is pulled to be exclusively under the Disney streaming service which starts 2019.

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Jack Pipsam

Disney being trash-lords again. I never played this game, but it’s horrific the idea that people spent so much time loving and dedicating time to building characters, buying characters and playing out the fantasy of being their favourite superhero, all to be snapped away.

This sadly reminds me of how quickly Disney Infinity was snapped away, despite the investment of hundreds of dollars by many players and hours upon hours of time spent building worlds in the editor.

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I’m only going to partially fault Disney on this one… it’s a shame that a license holder can do it, but that is also the risk of building a licensed IP property, especially a multiplayer one.

But Gazillion did themselves no favors at all with this. I owned every hero in the game, and most of the team ups. I put many hours into it and had a lot of fun… but the writing has been on the wall for some time. The studio mishandled it and it was clearly damaging their reputation and the brand to some minor extent (at least around games).

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Sad for all the players who are losing their game.

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Little Bugbear

Condolences to everyone who has lost their home game.

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Bryan Turner

This certainly gave me an epiphany, unless it’s an established company like ANet or Blizzards or a polished game based off of a well-known property like ESO I will never support a game other than through a box purchase or subscription.

No cash shops for me thank you

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Jeff

Very glad I didn’t waste money on this….

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silverlock

Wow if Gazillion was a person I’d say it seems like they are in the grips of depression.

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Jeffrey Meade

Its really unfortunate and I feel bad for the developers and employees that worked hard to create a good game, but I am also glad I stopped playing after the big update that changed the game itself. I would have probably spent more money on a game that is suddenly ending.

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wratts

Dang, that really stinks. Was one of the few mainstream MMO games I could play with my young sons where we could all have fun just running around blasting things and not taking anything very seriously. Was really a great entry point for both of my boys into a shared love of comics, and the Marvel movies themselves. I’d heard Disney was rethinking all of their third party distribution relationships (like Netflix) but I really thought MH would survive the cut

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Goronmon

Pretty crazy to see a game like this is just going to disappear like that. Until recently, I figured they would have been able to keep the game going for at least another few years. It wasn’t anything amazing, but it was a pretty easy game to get into for short periods of time.

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Chosenxeno .

It’s pretty sad. You can’t come up with a more logical premise for a ARPG and somehow they screwed it up. I’ll miss my Storm :( Sadly, we’ll only Mobile Marvel games from here on out.

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Indigo Salma

Now someone quickly make a private server =O.

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Thanks to everybody who joined the Massively OP Super Group in MH! It was fun making new connections over this game!

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Utakata

Kinda reminds of that scene where Vader shows in the air lock in Rogue One. It didn’t end well there either. O.o

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semugh

Don’t close it down, sell it to PWE. That chinese dude understands MMOs.

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cryinglightning39

Yeah, they did great with Gigantic…

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Jack Pipsam

Eh… suppose that’s still up and running right?

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Kirk Hodges

Sadly the game was dated/lackluster. The recent industry hubbub over destiny-likes would put an under-performing ARPG on the chopping block (as a future conflict of interest). e.g. there’s definitely a persistent Marvel game already in the works.

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Peregrine Falcon

I empathize with the players who still love Marvel Heroes.

I remember, months after SWG closed, people were still reminiscing about it and I just kept thinking “It’s gone. No one died. Get over it already.” Then City of Heroes closed. Now, years later, I just think “Now I understand and I wish I didn’t.”

I hope that most of you continue on without ever understanding the feeling of loss created when a favorite virtual world is shut down.

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Bryan Turner

I can tell you one thing, if I had spent any money in that cash shop I’d sue the shit out of Disney for compensation.

When Out Side companies can dictate the lives of other companies then why bother spending any money in any cash shop to support a game out side a subscription?

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Veldan

You wouldn’t stand a chance.

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Ukrutor

Well, there’s not a word about Disney in there. While he can’t sue Gazillion for shutting down the game, there’s no reason he couldn’t sue Disney for causing the said shutdown.

Sure it probably wouldn’t be worth the hassle. But still, it’s the country where people successfully sued companies for scalding themselves with a hot drink…

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Carlos

@Ukrutor that drink caused a 79 year old lady 3rd degree burns, because the coffee was way to hot like 180 F too hot ( or 82 or 85 c?) Had to stay at the hospital for almost a month while she had her skin grafted. Also the lady didnt wish to sue just wanted mcdonalds to pay for her medical bills and mcdonalds only offered her 1k so in the end she had to sue. This wasnt some petty frivolous lawsuit like its been made to look like.

Edit: also mcdonalds almost always served the coffee way too hot, this wasn’t a one time thing.

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Utakata

You are claiming there is a reason that caused Gazillion to terminate the player’s account. The clause indicates Gazillion does not need a reason to terminate the player’s account. Even if the reason of termination was caused by a third party outfit.

…good luck in taking Disney to court over this though…if that’s what you are planning to do. o.O

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Armsbend

And you’d get a form email that had a DONOTREPLY on it because this is a clear case of you owning nothing.

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Utakata

Welp…somewhere between, “That escalated fast!” and “This didn’t end well!”, I wish my best wishes and condolences for those who found themselves out of a job today because of this. And those who came to love this game that that haven’t got that game to come back to anymore. As well as other parties affected. This really sucks on so many levels, and I am really sorry to hear that. /sigh :(

And no Gazillion, this was never normal. You should of least known better.

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Bryan Turner

How about all the poor bastards that dropped money in the cash shop with nothing to show for it?

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I dropped several hundred pounds on this game over the course of its life and I have a lot of fun memories to show for it. I do not consider myself a “poor bastard” I consider myself lucky bastard to have spent many hundreds of hours enjoying myself while I played the game.

My glass is half full (of good memories) with just a tinge of sadness at the way it all ended /sigh

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Chosenxeno .

I spent as well. It just wasn’t as crisp combat-wise as D3 or POE. I dunno it just seemed like there wasn’t something clean about the combat. It was still cool having such a huge roster. I’ll miss it even though I wasn’t it on it everyday.

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Utakata

That pretty much happens with ever MMO that is sunsetted with RMT wares to sell, from this game to City of Heroes. This least is an incentive for me not to purchase items in the cash shop. As there is no guarantee it will stay with me when a game goes “poof!” :(

That being said though, you can include that in my, “As well as other parties affected,” statement. For what’s that’s worth.

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Indigo Salma

I’m now more interested in what David Brevik is making , when he said he’s making his own studio to make RPG’s …

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Armsbend

He works on the Chinese side of Grinding Gear Games last I heard.

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butterpanda888

Boo. Disney sucks.

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Utakata

It seems Disney put a crippled dog out of its misery here. o.O

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kgptzac

Not enough finger pointing in the article… not even a speculation on who did what wrong? This isn’t the MoP I used to know!

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Bannex

Ouch. Funny thing is, this will never reach the same levels of hate CoH’s closure created.

Disney fans better get used to the abuse. They have colossal IPs and they’re not afraid to exploit the hell out of their fans.

Disney is the evil empire, these kind of headlines don’t even scratch the surface of what they’re planning.

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the_balance

There wasn’t enough people playing the game. The console launches weren’t deemed successful, and when they didn’t promote the latest MCU release it was a bright, neon sign as to the future of the game.

Sadly, I REALLY liked this title from time to time over the years, my only complaint was that there was, at a time, way too much loot dropping and managing inventory became a chore. Not sure where it was at the end, but there was a lot of good that came out of this game and entertained a lot of people.

We can all speculate why they didn’t stick around long, and I’m sure we’ll see plenty of it everywhere with this news. But, honestly Marvel Heroes only really saw coverage when new MCU promotions came out, the major game changes had barely been covered for over a year. The writing was on the wall for awhile. Those making the decisions ultimately reasoned their efforts were better spent elsewhere with one of (if not, the) most valuable IP on the planet at the moment.

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Castagere Shaikura

The game was doomed when they did the console thing. And i know this is harsh but i hope that swtor is next. Would love to see Disney clean house.

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Jo Jo

The game was doomed when they skipped the character creation thing. They tried to profit off of MUA3. SMDH

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Ben Stone

Agree. Those two ganes were just OK, not bad, but as long as they exist they are robbing us of the Marvel and Star Wars MMOs we really deserve.

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rahkeesh

At this point I’d say market forces are robbing you. No big-name Western IPs are going to bother investing in MMOs of any stripe again.

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Eh it’s all really just a matter of opinion, many people genuinely love SWTOR for what it is, others wished it was something else than it is, especially people wanting a more sandboxy game, and I understand that as well. Personally, I can’t imagine playing a Star Wars MMORPG without a heavy emphasis on storytelling, and sense of player agency/choices that BioWare tends to excel at providing in their games, for me that is what Star Wars has always been about, story, and a cast of unique characters, and the choices the characters make in the series having a profound impact on their stories. I also don’t think SWTOR existing is robbing us of any other Star Wars MMO existing, either. Honestly, I would not be surprised if they are working on a sequel, or something completely new to effectively replace it with eventually, but it has consistently netted them a great deal of profit, and as I said before, Disney/LucasArts renewed their license recently.

For Marvel Heroes, I am sad to see it end this way, I invested a great deal of time and some money in it over the years, I am honestly surprised there hasn’t been other marvel superhero MMO’s, I think someone could make an amazing co-op online RPG out of the series. I really enjoyed the ARPG aspect of MH, but sadly I don’t see that being the route anyone goes with it in the future, if there’s ever another online game made using the IP.

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I kind of agree. The branch out to consoles was an effort to drum up PR and see if the communities on those platforms would flock to the game. It’s obvious that it didn’t work.

SWTOR isn’t going anywhere. Is the game as popular as it could, or should have been? Not even close. But is it a dead or dying game? Not even kind of.

Server consolidation is just Moore’s law in motion. It’s not going to be too long where servers become a remnant of the past, only appearing to those who are somewhere in between regions and have to pick which server they want to play on because of approximately = distance or ping.

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Armsbend

I’d like to see Disney get rid of EA completely.

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Mikey's Bored

I enjoy SWTOR whenever there’s a story to play. I don’t think this will happen to SWTOR because they seem to have a larger dedicated fanbase than Marvel Heroes, and Lucas Arts // Disney renewed the license for a number of years.

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Armsbend

I just think Star Wars can be so much better as an MMO.

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A Dad Supreme

” And i know this is harsh but i hope that swtor is next. “

Not harsh. Just highly unrealistic.

People have been wish-hating that SWTOR would die on Launch Day.

The power of the Force they know not.

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Hirku

Five servers of Force doesn’t sound all that powerful, to be honest.

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A Dad Supreme

“Five servers of Force doesn’t sound all that powerful, to be honest.”

I think that’s the old way of thinking though. It used to be all about servers but now it’s about a game’s profitability.

The server issue was only interesting when all the MMOs were competing against each other. Now they are competing just to stay alive.

As long as you have a game with at least one server, your investment recouped and enough people still willing to play it, it’s far more powerful than the game getting hate-shutdown comments for years.

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Psi

Does this mean that Destiny 2 is already a failure since you have to play on one server?

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Hirku

No, but it wouldn’t be a sign of success if Destiny was as big an IP as Star Wars and yet couldn’t afford to have their server provide a playable experience for an entire region of the world. Producing a pathetic dribble of content in a year wouldn’t help, either.

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Jeremy Barnes

A damn shame. When they forced Brevik out, knew it was only a matter of time. Makes me angry that the suits who took over wrecked it.

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Best of luck to those who worked on the game proper.
It was, for quite a while, my go-to when I needed to scratch an itch and no other game would do. For how little it will ever matter, they have my gratitude.

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Jeremiah Wagner

Sad , but totally makes sense. This game had zero depth. A HUGE list of awesome Heroes gone completely to waste. HORRIBLE crafting system and absolutely nothing to do at endgame except restart with another hero. You could keep playing at max and get the best gear etc , but there was no point in it as there was no actual hard mode to test your gear and skill at max.

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Were we playing the same game? No actual hard mode? No raids, no cosmic trials? These weren’t things you just hopped into the moment you hit max level on a hero.

When was the last time you played the game? 2015?

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This!
So glad it’s not just me who scratched his head at this game’s apparent popularity… I tried it like three times, and couldn’t escape the feeling i was playing one of those 1980’s coin-op machines… tried iron man… i didnt feel lile iron man… tried storm, didnt feel like storm.

Three skills and stuck on “foot-patrol” does not a hero Make!
You might not be the iconic heroes, but at least DCUO made you feel like a pretty badass 2nd fiddle.

Hell, even champs felt more heroic!

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Bruno Brito

I didn’t knew your feelings were evidence of failed games.

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A Dad Supreme

Honestly, I didn’t think the game would last long. It actually surprised me by making as much money off of people as it did being a limited Diablo clone at launch.

The team really did put a lot of effort into the game, although it was never my cup of tea. I played to max and got bored/quit, but I do that with anything Diablo-esque since D2.

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you know that it was literally made by the same people who made diablo 2 right? XD

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A Dad Supreme

Yes I do. I think you misunderstood dk.

I meant the last time I played anything interesting was D2, in this genre. I’m not really a fan of the playstyle since gaming developed into more wide-open screen spaces.

The claustrophobic screen feel and the boring replay value once you hit max of Diablo-type games wore me out after D2, didn’t matter the IP or setting.

Plus I was expecting a Marvel MMO when they announced so I was always like “Meh” towards this title.

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Bruno Brito

The game didn’t fail because of that.

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Nick

I just wanted to take a moment to commend MassivelyOP on how well they have covered this game. Definitely have had great reporting through all of this.

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Armsbend

Dear Disney – if you ever are interested in making a new Marvel ARPG think about Activision/Blizzard. Creators of two of the best – Marvel Ultimate Alliance and Diablo. Marriage made in heaven in my opinion.

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Bannex

Dear Arms, if you’re hoping for a trashy lootbox filled pay 2 win exploitative trash, keep writing to disney with your hopes and dreams.

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Armsbend

Better than EA’s treatment of Star Wars I’d say.

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Hirku

And I’m sure EA would also be interested in the license and they could…OW! What?! What’d I do?! Why are you all looking at me like that?

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They’re already joined at the hip too… could this be a sign that they’re giving the ip to another “like-minded” developer?..

One with an already “succesful” -( read: lootbox driven, revenue creating) Disney IP, and one who ‘speaks their language’

I’d watch this space very closely…

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I wouldn’t be so sure about that. They have got to be in deep kimchee over how badly SW:TOR’s been handled the last few years and the very public black eye over their plans for BF2 has got to have Disney giving them a stink-eye.

OTOH, since Walt passed away Disney’s definitely gone full Corporate Evil so they’re pretty well matched by EA.

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But that’s my point! As a former, avid defender of SWTOR I came to see what had become of my beloved game, and frankly “badly handled” is an understatement in my opinion… but in the opinions of the money men at both EA and Disney, SWTOR has been handled exactly as expected and delivered the sort of revenue they promised… why else would Disney extend their license for another 10 years?

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Bannex

Cypher gets it.

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Alberto

I don’t get why the servers don’t just go into maintenance mode City Of Heroes all over again???

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Armsbend

Because Disney doesn’t want to be associated with them.

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Tanek

Without a license, even that much would not be possible here.

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zoward

That’s also why you’ll never see any private servers either – Disney is extermely litigous, very protective of their stable of IP’s, and has money to burn protecting them.

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Aluminum Man

Well that’s disappointing. I was hoping this might just be a bump in the road but clearly it’s the end of the ride.

Ah well. Over 200 hours on the Steam version here. No idea what the actual total would be considering the length of time I played it not-Steam.

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For once in my life I take no pride in being right and saying I said Marvel would do this… On the up side however maybe now we may get an actual MARVEL MMO from someone?

Real salty at Gazillion (not the developers, but the suits) for dropping the ball here though literally more could not have been done to kill the game this year and the sheer amount of time and money i’ve spent in that game that is now essentially in the toilet and gone.. not happy :(

The fact the community manager hadn’t logged into their forums for the last 3 weeks was a pretty big red flag too..

Geez and just before Xmas too..so they even managed to screw their employees.. what a clusterfu** all round.

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Targeter

No kidding, right? How we don’t have a quality, top-tier Marvel MMO/ARPG/FPS/(whatever acronym you want to use) bewilders me. With the hilariously popular MCU and the Netflix shows, everything is comin’ up Marvel. How can we not get a decent game out of it that’s *not* a Lego game? (Lego Marvel Superheroes 1 was amazing, fight me)

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Pandalulz

I didn’t understand the point of Lego Avengers when Marvel Superheroes already had like everybody.

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Cypher

Be careful what you wish for… Disney definitely likes what a certain other developer is doing with its other big IP…

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Sray

I agree the Lego Marvel games have been amazing. Do we still have to fight?

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Targeter

Yeah, but in true Lego fashion, the fight will be totally adorable and we’ll wind up being friends anyways.

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Tanek

Grr. I have an obligation to boycott Lego games after what they did with The Hobbit. I keep hearing they are great, though.

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Anthony Clark

So all the stuff I bought just doesn’t exist now. Money thrown away.

This is another great example of why to NOT purchase digital goods. You really never get to own anything for your money, and they can take it away whenever they feel like it.

I don’t know if I’ll buy another marvel game again now. I don’t trust them at all.

Bad form.

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There was never a point that it wasn’t guaranteed to not exist. That is what online gaming is. The money is there for the enjoyment factor, not ever for some physical thing you own. Just like going to a movie in a theater: You are entertained for the time you are there, but there is no physical thing you keep for your purchases (unless you save your ticket stub I guess, and possibly weight gain depending on how much butter you put on the popcorn!).

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Kayweg

I’m wouldn’t argue that point at all, MJ. You’re correct of course.
Thing is, we’re all very uncomfortable when being so harshly reminded about it.
Some things you know, but try not to think about.;)

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Anthony Clark

You have a point. And I do keep ticket stubs. It’s a reminder/trophy thing.

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MJ Guthrie

I keep many too! =D

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zoward

And for the digital experiences – screenshots!

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MJ Guthrie

Hi. My name is MJ. And I have a screenshot problem….

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Alien Legion

That is exactly the point with any online video game. Once it’s gone, your monetary investment disappears as well. And I would not fault Marvel / Disney on this one. Gaz became so toxic any respectable intellectual property would have broken ranks just as fast.

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A Dad Supreme

“That is exactly the point with any online video game. “

Truth.

So many people think of video games as “my items” or “my stuff” or “my character” because they paid hundreds or thousands of dollars on digital items.

It’s funny but if you bought a physical copy of a MMO/video game and then it shut down or you got banned, you’d actually have more to show for it afterwards “investment wise” because at least you could still sell that on Ebay or trade it in at Gamestop for $2.

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Anthony Clark

For me, it’s not about trade-ins. It’s about not being able to play it anymore.

I have faith in the community to forge a private server in time. Worked with vanilla WoW, and EnB too. The private server was WAY faster then Blizz.

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Anthony Clark

I’m not buying anything online Marvel.

I can still play EQ1, EQ2, DAoC, and more if I want. The EnB I want, and cannot play is the fault of EA. They are the destroyer of worlds.

And now, I get to add Marvel Heroes to the list of titles that have been shutdown and I can never access again.

And they wonder why private servers popup like they do. This will be yet another one.

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Considering Disney’s army of lawyers, no private servers will exist imho, even in the countries where they would be immune. Disney would just send its employed assassins…

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Darthbawl

Sad day indeed.

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