Make My MMO: Star Citizen scrubs release windows from 3.0 schedule, Fig investors turn a profit (August 12, 2017)

This week in MMO crowdfunding, Star Citizen surprised backers by removing all “aim dates” from its weekly production schedule, which is intended to provide a roadmap toward the (very delayed) 3.0 alpha release. CIG instead provided two graphs it says will give a “more accurate look at where [it is] trending” – check those out down below. (Cheers, Cotic!)

In more meta news, Fig announced that a game promoted through its equity crowdfunding platform actually generated profit for investors, a first for the company. That game would be Kingdoms and Castles, which according to Polygon netted $1M in sales and consequently provided a 100% return to investors through Fig (double their money). It’s not an MMO, of course, but several MMORPGs have turned to this type of equity crowdfunding since it became legal last autumn, including Crowfall and Shroud of the Avatar.

Meanwhile, Albion Online continued suffering from extortionists’ DDOS attacks, we kicked off a month-long deep-dive into Shroud of the AvatarDual Universe scored a huge chunk o’ change in its run up to alpha, Pantheon published its monthly newsletter, and we got the details on the superhero MMO panel at PAX, which we’ll be attending in person (thanks, cyanpill!).

Read on for more on what’s up with MMO crowdfunding over the last week and the regular roundup of all the crowdfunded MMOs we’re following.

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Campaigns and crowdfunded MMOs we’re watching

3001SQ (Société des Mondes Virtuels) – Kickstarter unsuccessful. Work continues.
AdventureQuest 3D (Artix Entertainment) – Raised 368k; beta began Oct 2016.
Albion Online (Sandbox) – Launched July 2017.
Antraxx (Team Antraxx) – Kickstarter canceled.
Ascent: The Space Game (Fluffy Kitten Studios) – Successful KS. Fully launched 2016.
Ashes of Creation (Intrepid Studios) – Successful KS.
Broke Protocol (Cylinder) – Unsuccessful KS. In free early access.
Camelot Unchained
(City State) – Kickstarter successful; open donations/packages.
Caribbean Conquest (Invenio) – First KS canceled, second ended unsuccessfully.
Contested Space (Zon)
Crowfall (ArtCraft) – Kickstarter win, open packages, Indiegogo crowdfunding ongoing.
Chronicles of Elyria (Soulbound) – Kickstarter successful, open packages.
Citadel of Sorcery (MMO Magic, Inc.) – Open donations.
City of Titans (Missing Worlds Media) – Successful KS; launch planned for fall 2018.
Descent Underground (Descendent Studios) – Successful KS.
Divergence Online (Stained Glass Llama) – Three campaigns; now in KS early access.
Dogma: Eternal Night
(Prelude Games Factory): Kickstarter overdonor preorder packs.
Dragon of Legends (Thrive Games) – Successful Kickstarter.
Dual Universe (Novaquark) – Kickstarter funded, now has donor platform. Alpha delayed.
Eco (Strange Loop Games) – Funded, now in alpha.
Edengrad (Huckleberry Games) – Kickstarter funded; in early access.
Elite: Dangerous (Frontier Developments) – Funded and launched.
Empyrion Online (Eleon) – Kickstarter canceled; launched on Steam early access.
Epic Space (EpicSpace.net)
Ever, Jane (3 Turn Productions) – Now in open beta.
Global Adventures (SubaGames) – Kickstarter funded.
Gloria Victis (Black Eye Games) – Open donations, no end date; in early access.
Greed Monger (Greed Monger) – Abandoned, multiple times now.
Grim Dawn (Crate Entertainment) – Funded and launched.
Guns of Icarus (Muse) – Funded and launched.
Hero’s Song (Pixelmage) – KS canceled; Indiegogo. Canceled w/ refunds.
Infinity: Battlescape (I-Novae Studios)
HEX (HEX Entertainment) – Funded and launched.
Legends of Aria (Citadel Studios) – Kickstarted as Shards Online. Currently in alpha.
Life is Feudal (Bitbox): Indiegogo ended. Currently in beta.
LUX (Chimera) – Kickstarter canceled.
Maestros of the Anthymn (String Theory) – Kickstarter canceled.
Mekria (Infinity Online Studios) – Kickstarter canceled.
Midair (Archetype Studios) – Kickstarter successful.
Nebula Online (Mizar Games) Kickstarter canceled; launched in November.
Neo’s Land (NeoJac Entertainment) – Open donations, no end date.
Novus AEterno (Taitale Studios)
OrbusVR (Ad Alternum) – KS funded March 2017.
Overpower (Hydrant Games) – Kickstarter unfunded; heading to early access.
Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen (Visionary Realms) – Open donations, no end date.
Pathfinder Online (GoblinWorks) – Doom, mostly.
Planet Nomads (Craneballs) – Kickstarted, early access launched sans multiplayer.
Pixel Starships (SavySoda)
Project Gorgon (Elder Game) – Kickstarted in three tries + Indiegogo. In alpha.
Pumpkin Online (Monique) – Downgrading from MMORPG.
The Exiled (Fairytale Distillery) – fka Das Tal; 2015 KS unsuccesful. In Steam early access.
The Realm: Reawakened (Stephen Nichols) – Ongoing GoFundMe.
The Repopulation (Idea Fabrik) – Kickstarted twice by A&B. Back in alpha
ROKH (Darewise) – Kickstarter canceled; now in early access.
RUiN (Tarhead Studio) – Kickstarter successful.
The Stomping Land (Alex Fundora) – Abandoned.
Sacrament (Ferocity Unbound) – Kickstarter failed; Patreon ongoing.
Shadow’s Kiss (Clockwork Throne) – Ongoing Patreon.
Shroud of the Avatar (Portalarium) – Successful KS. Soft launch July 2016.
Star Citizen (Cloud Imperium) – Ongoing donations/packages.
TUG (Nerd Kingdom) – In middle of year-long revamp after funding surge.
Vigor Roads (NeuronHaze) – Kickstarter unsuccessful; early access planned for 2017.

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Blue touchpaper

About a year and a half ago I remember getting involved in discussions with backers of this game on this site who heatedly disagreed with me when I said that this game probably wouldn’t get a release before the early 2020’s .

We are now at the latter part of 2017 and they can’t even get alpha patch 3.0 out let alone a single player game like Squadron 42 .

Funnily enough those people seem to be very quiet in the forums . I think even the some of most vocal and loyal of the backers are starting to realize things are going wrong with the development of this game and that the finished product if it ever gets released may end up being scaled down considerably to the point it wont even come close to the original vision of the game .

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zeko_rena

Early 2020’s is still quite a long way off yet.
I think something most people don’t seem to understand is the main TECH in the game is the hardest part.

For example once all the planet / moon tech is completed and stable, adding more planets and moons is going to be easy going forward, getting all the systems to make it possible is the hard part.

Once a lot of these major systems are built and in game, adding content that works with those systems should be a lot easier and a lot quicker.

Don’t get me wrong I still think the project has a long way to go that is for sure, and I really do hope it launches at least with major game-play elements and five to ten systems prior to early 2020’s

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Joe Blobers

Quote Blue Touchpaper:”starting to realize things are going wrong ”

In your dream man :) You can pretend “they can’t even get alpha patch 3.0 out”… it is coming out in few weeks…not never. The next year and half till end of 2018 will be the most intense for backers, because most major patch are going to be released, including not only planets and NPC’s but also various jobs gameplay..

CIG do have now uptodate game engine, pipelines and talented team. If you think Denis Crow, Former Grand Theft Auto V and World of Warcraft producer, join Star Citizen because it does not trust the future of CIG…

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DoomSayer

I am always surprised to find so many people who say they hate the game and the company but read every article posted and just can’t stop themselves from posting about it. Why not go post about games you actually like? Why waste your time here?

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Blue touchpaper

Maybe because of all the money invested in this game and the fact that if you make a comment about it that they don’t like the backers are all over you .

It does set your back up against this project to some degree .

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Joe Blobers

Why do you mean Blue Touchpaper by “all over you”?
You make a comment… others can’t reply? or is it disturbing your prophecies… :)

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zeko_rena

Sometimes I even wonder why I bother coming to this website anymore (not because of the articles but the same old people shit posting)

I must be the only human being in the universe that when they see an article about a game I don’t like I skip it and move onto the next.

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mike foster

You’re probably what people would call the quiet majority. Most people probably do exactly what you do. It’s the same thing in gaming forums — no matter the state of the Hearthstone sub-reddit, for example, most HS players are probably just happily enjoying the game.

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zeko_rena

That is a good point, I just always hope to scroll down to find at least some interesting discussion and perhaps join in and form friendships with people here.

But its just always a huge argument, same people saying they hate it and the same people saying why they should not hate it etc.

Maybe its just the way the world is going these days, everyone is always arguing, this is getting way too deep for a video game news website!

LOL

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mike foster

Jon Stewart used to say something like “it’s hard to rally people around a battle cry of ‘be reasonable!'”

TBH Massively has a killer community. Every now and then we go off the rails but the community is what makes this place special.

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deekay_plus

just in case you’re under the erroneous impression i hate this game:

here’s a playlist of me and a friend playing just this year alone – with dozens more videos from previous years

i am critical of every game i play, and choose to share those criticisms on massively when they cover said games.

and quite frankly there’s quite a lot to criticize star citizen about – if not necessarily the game itself, the business practices and marketting of the developers behind it.

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zeko_rena

Oh I was not targeting my comments at anyone in particular at all, not trying to single any one person out :)

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deekay_plus

Ye i just wanted to put it out there cuz i routinely get accused of trying to ruin sc somehow when this pretty much the only the only place i criticize sc outside of my irc chan for the game.

I can be rather harsh on it but its from a position of not only wanting them to do better but also what this whole thing could do to the business of games

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DoomSayer

Just curious what you don’t like about their “business practices” and marketing you dislike?

Marketing, they simply don’t. They post to youtube and twitter but you will NEVER find one paid ad about Star Citizen. So if people choose to spread the word you can’t really fault CIG for that.

Business Practices. So you don’t like the Buy To Play format they have? Everything they sell for money is to help develop the game and they tell EVERYONE it isn’t necessary unless you want to support them. Period, end of story. So you get mad because people want to buy $1,000 space ships? Do you also get mad whenever someone buys a Bugatti Veyron? At least you can earn all the ships in game which they tell you up front.

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Estranged

Nick – Marketing is sending alerts of new ship offerings. Free list of interested people.

You honestly think people will be earning all the ships by grinding content? Come on. Chris said himself they had to make sure cash customers didn’t feel like their investment was easy to obtain by grinding.

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zeko_rena

Which is a shame really, as I don’t mind if for example the Carrack is not a super grind for people to earn in game, my main train of through when I bought it was I am supporting development, not to short cut :(

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Estranged

zeko – I know. Wouldn’t bother me either. It is like how discounts for new players don’t bother me in this genre. I think being able to play first is a huge bonus, plus – that is the nature of things. Prices will fall on products.

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deekay_plus

nice meme.

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Melissa McDonald

I had to go way on back to 1970s for this one…
“Beth, I hear you callin’, but I can’t come home right now.
‘Cause me and the boys are coding, and we just can’t find the clowns,
Just a few more quarters, and I’ll release a game for you,
I think we need more money, oh Beth, what can I do?
We publish some bug fixes, but create a dozen more.
Meanwhile the brass is bragging, about how they’ll have engrossing lore.
Just a few more quarters, and I’ll release a game for you,
But a hundred-sixty-million, oh Beth can it be true?
Yachts and fancy dinners, videos and online blogs,
While some of us are seeing a tooth gone from the cog,
Just a few more years, and we’ll release a game for you,
The IRS is calling, oh Beth, what can we do?
Beth, I know you’re lonely, and I hope you’ll be alright.
‘Cause me and the boys will be coding, all niiiight.”

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mike foster

Fun story: Beth is KISS’s highest-charting single, but doesn’t have anyone from the band performing on it except the drummer.

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loo mb

Is this game released yet?
and where’s the “Zander” guy who’
s usually white-knighting SC…

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Godnaz

I’m not defending shit. Gave a date. They are fucking waaay late. You called?

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Paragon Lost

You do tend to be just a bit white knight like in your support of SC, just a bit. I do like that you can and will criticize that which should be criticized. Like this. You aren’t the one poster who I feel anymore just goes down the whole thread shilling blindly almost every post. :/

A little white knighting isn’t bad, going total Crusader with blaring horns and music and riding everyone down like Joe does is unacceptable.

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Armsbend

doesn’t matter. it is weird when random people “call” you out on a forum.

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Paragon Lost

Not sure I follow why that is. If you say things, then you shouldn’t be surprised if people comment. Morso when you make remarks that some might disagree with strongly. I think you are missing the purpose of forums and communication.

I mean we call out for Schlag or many of us do, to post one of their wonderful memes. Is that weird? No. If you are going to engage in social behavior with others in person, or on forums it shouldn’t surprise you if people call you on things you do or say or that you are known for doing and saying. Weird? Nope, what’s weird is that you feel it is weird and I strongly disagree with your “doesn’t matter”.

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deekay_plus

idk i find it kind of weird when people like joe blobers on their first appearance on this site call me out by name before i’ve made an appearance and then proceed to reply to every post i make multiple times over the course of multiple days.

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Joe Blobers

Quote Deekay_Plus: “when people like joe blobers on their first appearance on this site call me out by name”
… You sound a bit off… proof of naming?

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Armsbend

Weird – not unacceptable. I’ve been on the receiving end it feel stalky. But whatever I come for the free popcorn.

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Ken from Chicago

Sounds like Zander fits the “Believer” category (like myself).

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Paragon Lost

I’m more in the one down from that category, Agnostic. I’m very amused that there is that chart though. lol

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mike foster

I think I qualify as a “skeptic.” I’m also OBSESSED with this — I read SC stuff almost every day.

No matter what happens this is going to be one of the most interesting stories in the history of games.

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Paragon Lost

Yeah I will admit that it can be very easy to become obsessed over it. I do read everything that comes out. Never boring that’s a fact.

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Godnaz

Holy shit this chart’s accurate.

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Paragon Lost

Right? It’s feels accurate,it’s funny and interesting. Kudos to whoever created it.

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edangerous

The chart was done by a goon by the name of Gorf.

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Brian McBride

I can’t say this chart is accurate.

I doubt the project will succeed – but the qualifier “possibility it might on more modest terms”. I also disagree with. So I’m less than Skeptic, but I’ve also never been banned or trolled the project. I don’t hate it at all.

Here is why I think the project will, eventually, fail:
There is a reason in software development people get paid on delivery (of final product or milestones). I see this project is out of control with no accountability and people are paying them to develop. That is a huge difference from paying them to deliver.

I would bet the farm that if half of all the income from this game was held in escrow until a final release THEN the develop team got that as a delayed bonus – you would have a released game today.

So – if you want this game to be completed, stop paying them to develop and pay them for delivery.

Of course, the second reason this game will fail hard is that it’s been hyped too long. This is now a project that can’t possibility deliver on the promise. They should have released a more simple game and built expansions onto it. Now there is a huge promise out there… If this game isn’t the best space battle + mmo out there it is going to tank big.

BUT, here is the rub. Although I am sure they care about their project – it can be a bomb and they won. They have already been paid, a HUGE amount. They have nice big paychecks and a long-lasting development cycle that never seems to end. Since they are being paid to develop in perpetuity and there seems to be no stop to people willing to pay for dev and not delivery, they win.

Seriously, imagine if you had a job that you got to build stuff that is arguably pretty fun to build without any deadlines and a near unlimited cash flow? Yeah… who wants to stop that train?

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Ken from Chicago

What mmos stop being developed?

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Joe Blobers

Quote Paragon:” riding everyone down like Joe does is unacceptable”

First I am not riding everyone. Count my posts versus others that will be a good start. May be it is acceptable enough for you?

Second Paragon you try to look like the guy with a lot of reason, giving good and bad point… but looking at SC article and yours posts… you are either not there at all, or coming to provide your feeling about one or two… and it looks like the two are… me :)

I provide information that does not go in the direction of some.. Readers can sort them out by themself. There are ATV’s to show what the game intented to provide.
One thing I will never recommend anyone is to pick or reject a game, just by reading comments on forum. And it looks like monthly pledges do prove I am right :)

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Roger Melly

Sometimes it seems a week doesn’t go by without another controversy about Star Citizen . It is quite amusing to watch .

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edangerous

Yes, preach it son. FAKE NEWS!! alternative facts!! Fake controversies, CNNMSNBC, SJW, white power!

Lay off the moonshine for your own good.

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Estranged

The fun comes from both sides being dead wrong. However, the Elite enjoy watching us squabble, keeps our minds off them.

Moonshine? Stereotype much?

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edangerous

Just throwing the ridiculousness back in his own face.

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Estranged

That is fair. I’m tired. lol

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Armsbend

I like moonshine.

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Roger Melly

Never had moonshine myself but I imagine its potent stuff .

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Armsbend

I’ve had both. I’ve had shine that is more akin to store bought 80 proof booze that was just as good as you’d fine on any shelf.

States are slowly starting to open avenues to small batch legal shine so I hope better booze will come in the future. I’m not a hard liquor drinker much but it’s fun on camping trips and such. cheers!

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Estranged

@Armsbend Small batch rye whiskey is hard to beat.

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Melissa McDonald

I live not 50 miles from where Jack Daniel’s is made. That’s some good whiskey. Natural spring at the distillery with iron-free water, they char their own oak barrels, and it has a sweet corny taste that I find appealing. Too many liquors are just an alcohol blast, like some kind of mouthwash. I like a little bit of flavor in there.

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Roger Melly

hahaha :) nice one

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shear

They provided a link to the original source, this isn’t fake news, they just rewrote what CiG said.

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Roger Melly

Being from Europe I haven’t really got caught up in the whole fake news and alternative facts fad that seems to be sweeping the USA at the moment .

To me it just seems all a bit odd because what is labelled fake news often seems to be News that doesn’t have a partisan bias in favor of right wing politics ( ie news that isn’t virtual propaganda ) and the same people who seem to be calling it fake are willing to believe the most absurd internet rumours which have no basis in reality . While alternative facts as basically either cherry picked “facts” from dubious sources or just outright lies .

It can be applied to Star Citizen here because this story is obviously based on facts but you decry it as fake because you don’t like those facts .

It just find it all very odd and a very sad because potentially extremely dangerous for any society where that kind of mentality if allowed to take hold in a significant proportion of the population .

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Armsbend

The US is in it’s worst state in my four decades walking this earth. The amount of misinformation and distrust of everything is alarming to be honest. The cracks are opening up and real violence between political opponents is starting to seap out. With our innate propensity to violence I expect some real fireworks in the coming years. It is going to get really bad before it gets better.

That said, the earth has never gone this long without a major upheaval – so here we are. Another fantastic battle of ideologies. except this time we all have weapons that can burn the world forever. Let’s join the dinos shall we?

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Paragon Lost

I’ll stack onto that Armsbend with another decade plus, plus ten years living around the world. In other words to be clear I strongly agree with your post. (sigh)

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Sally Bowls

It is quite bad now.

OTOH, in my [grand]parents time there was a global flu epidemic that killed more people than WWI, several tens of millions. Then there was the great depression. Then WWII and losing to either the country that did Pearl Harbor & Baatan or that elected Hitler would have been bad. In the early sixties, there was no Voting Right Act or Civil Rights Act and the Cuban Missle Crisis was arguably as close to extinction the species has gotten. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_and_cover“Duck and cover” exercises quickly became a part of Civil Defense drills that every US citizen, from children to the elderly, was encouraged to practice so that they could be ready in the event of nuclear war.

Again, I agree things are bad and getting worse.

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Paragon Lost

Yeah I experienced the joy of duck and cover drills in elementary school and earthquake drills for that matter throughout my schools years. I’ve found the last seven months in particular to be rather depressing.

I actually put on ten pounds in the last few months. I’m getting to the point that I need to just start turning out some of what’s going on in the world. I don’t need to add to the heart medication I’m already on. lol

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Just this weekend I put a parent control on myself for certain sites. I used to think that knowing all sides of was somehow beneficial now I think it is poisoning my psyche. So I literally put a ban on myself that is hard to overrride.

i’m liking it.

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Paragon Lost

I like it, something I need to do more of myself. Peace of mind is priceless.

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Armsbend

If you care to know I use Chrome and added extension ‘Block site’ from google’s store. It seems really un-intrusive. You just put whatever site you want and what site you to redirect to and viola.

not only is it good for the psyche but getting more stuff done :)

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primal

well at least the finish date of 8th september hasnt changed in the last couple of weeks. so as long as that date doesnt move it doesnt matter

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wratts

Wait for it . . .

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Danny Smith

At this point the reactions from the ‘i have my wing commander rank and another 10k ready but my wife might leave me’ guys are more fun than anything related to the game itself. The mental spin-nastics are always a treat to behold.
I hear the latest one is a paranoid victim complex conspiracy about goons ‘out to kill me game’ so lets watch it unfold.

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edangerous

3.0 will be a buggy, janky mess just like 2.0, just like 1.0, just like AC and just like the hangar module before it.

It’s the most expensive amateur game ever made.

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primal

of course itll be buggy, it is still an alpha if the gold release game is the same then youd have something to moan about. they can only do so much

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edangerous

If it’s a buggy janky mess it’s not going to kick publishers and natsayers butts like ChiefTurtle claims, is it.

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primal

i doubt itll be a mess, may still be buggy in areas though asa to be expected but as long as your not falling through ships or your cargo is falling through ships or half your stuff is missing crossing physics zones or whatever itll be ok.

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shear

They aren’t treating this as alpha, they could have released it already with the bugs that it has, and fixed them later on, nobody can be mad at them for it being buggy, but after this long and so much hype built up by the comunity, they need this to be good, or the shit will hit the fan.

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it doesn’t help that in selling the game to potential customers the fanboys present misleading videos amd other materials that make it seem in much better and more polished/less buggy state than it actually is.

i’ve seen countless videos from prior to 2.6 making it seem as if multicrew ship physics grids didn’t routinely eject players from them or spin wildly if the pilot stood up when no one else was seated.

the former of which has improved alot, the latter not so much.

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shear

Oh man, that’s funny. :D But it’s alpha so I get it.

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it’s something that i’m sure they’ll fix but it’s certainly a hassle doing the missions in a mc ship because of it XD

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Estranged

Chief – EVE is an established game with over a decade of successful operation. SC is a glorified tech demo.

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shear

Burn. :D

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Sally Bowls

I disagree with “glorified tech demo.” If they ever successfully demonstrated it works, sure. But IMO it is too soon to call it a glorified tech demo.

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Sally – damn!

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deekay_plus

the goon armies at the gates of SC conspiracy thoery is at least a year old.

and has about as much weight as calling me a hater who is here to stop people from spending money on the game. XD

the truth is goons don’t talk much about the game outside of a single thread on their own massive forums where they talk as such about just about every game on the market that catches any of their’s interests.

so it’s pretty amusing to see sc fanboys act like goons are chomping at the bit to ruin the game somehow.

tho i guess some goons did help people who were seeking legally entitled refunds that CIG had to be threatened with criminal legal action to give.

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Okay, I’m pretty sure the Star Citizen peeps are just fucking with us now. This is just too obvious. I feel like any day now they’re going to post an update just stating “WoW was the first MMORPG”. :P

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SWG was the first MMO :)