Massively OP Podcast Episode 332: Does every voice really matter at Blizzard?

    
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On this week’s show, Bree and Justin talk about California’s damning lawsuit against Blizzard, New World’s closed beta test, Lineage II’s attempt to get with the times, and a Ship of Heroes beta opportunity.

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Michael18

FYI: this episode does not seem to be on iTunes.

It does not show up in my Podcast App (the iOS default one, by Apple) and it is not included in this list (at time of posting):
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/massively-op/id966329746

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Bree Royce

Thank you Michael! Another reader reported this as well – Justin looked into it and we have no idea why Apple has borked up. We haven’t changed anything, and there doesn’t seem to be a way to force Apple to pick it up manually. We’re hoping it’s an issue on Apple’s end as the internet is flooded with complaints like this one from the last couple of years, and it did manage to get picked up by all the other syndicators, so it’s super weird.

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Java Jawa

Great episode Bree & Justin.

Justin – that’s a difficult decision to make to leave something and kudos to you for standing by your belief. I had a similar experience a few years back with A-Net, it wasn’t to this magnitude, but I just couldn’t support a company who treated their employee’s in such a manner, till this days it’s still be uninstalled.

I think really as consumers the biggest voice of change we have with these massive AAA studios is through our dollar. If enough people care and don’t support these companies it sends red flags to the board of directions and investors to do something about it. Unfortunately I can’t think of a single company that has done anything meaningful.

Sure we know Riot is trying to do something, but has it really?

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NeoWolf

Regarding New World, I would wait until after the Beta Event competition is over and all the streamers who were paid to participate and their communities joining them have gone to gauge it’s real success or not population-wise.

And I don’t say this as a mean of poo pooing the game in any way, just merely to point out that their numbers atm are very artificially increased and not likely a real indicator of its actual success until that event is done.

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Bree Royce

Yeah, I get the skepticism. At the same time, I’m not sure they gave out all that many keys. I mean, we got 20 to give away. 20. :D And zero for our staff – my key was from my ancient signup through Prime. Do folks really think Amazon is paying all these tiny streamers? I kinda doubt it.

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NeoWolf

The whole Coalition versus event they absolutely paid the streamers to take part in, the streamers have literally said as much.
Did Amazon pay for their communities to take part, not entirely no, some got keys, but most just follow where the streamers go and likewise LEAVE when the streamers leave.

I know the streamers I watched were giving out 50-100 keys each, you multiply that by all the streamers involved (working on the assumption they all got a similar number of keys) and you are still talking about thousands of players all total’ed

So how much retention they keep after that event remains to be seen as I said.

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Bree Royce

Huh, well maybe we’re just not that special, but they didn’t even offer this to us, and we have significantly more reach than most streamers. We would’ve turned down paid sponsorship anyway, but still. I’m not sure what the takeaway from that is. But if they really wanted to pad their week one numbers, they’d have dumped thousands of keys on the big MMO sites, big mainstream sites, and Reddit. And they didn’t.

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NeoWolf

You’d have to ask Amazon about that Bree i’m not privy to their reasoning :)

All I know is from the Twitch Streamers I watch involved and what pertained to them. Amazon wanted the big pvp event from them that is still happening set up all the rules and point scoring features of it for them, gave them keys etc.. and have even had developers in some of their chat to deal with any issues while its been happening and streamers involved were paid and that’s what they got.

As I say not really commenting on the good or bad of it, just that it is undoubtedly affecting population figures while it is still occuring and if any or all of those are retained once it is done remains to be seen.

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Turing fail

I sincerely admire Justin’s principled stand, and his non-judgemental explanation of his difficult- even painful- decision to uninstall WoW.

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Winter

I’m listening and this tweet comes out… https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1420129038912278529?s=20

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Bree Royce

Quick note here – as we were recording yesterday, we were guessing that a bunch more would happen between then and when the ‘cast went live. And we were right – we’ve now seen the meeting, open letter, and plan for tomorrow’s walkout. Moving faster than we can keep up, but I think our meaning comes through.

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Harry Koala

At this rate you’ll need a midweek blizzcast special to keep up and to stop the story from dominating next week’s podcast too.

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Octahedron8

As thrilling as more mopcast/week would be I worry we’d be sending them over the edge if they have to do multiple recording sessions on this in the span of a few days…

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Turing fail

It’s important news, but this story is spiritually corrosive. Please protect yourselves as best you can while reporting.