Rumor: Leaked file list suggests Star Citizen’s Theaters of War is being made into a standalone game

    
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Allow us to provide a bit of context before we get to the news: This is all about Theaters of War, a 20v20 mixed arms PvP mode that was first revealed at CitizenCon 2019. The vast majority of the talk about Theaters of War was its inclusion as a new mode into Star Citizen itself, with work on the mode being taken on by a UK developer known as Firesprite. Readers will also recall that a Calling All Devs video from May 2021 described the Firesprite team and some CIG devs working on Theaters as small, representing 1.6% of the overall development budget.

Assuming this rumor holds any truth, it would appear that the scope of Theaters has changed. A leaked list of games for GeForce has among them Theaters of War (found in lines 1915 and 1916 of the GitHub link or with a search for “Theaters”). The prevailing assumption is that a game mode wouldn’t get its own separate database listing, particularly since Star Citizen and Squadron 42 each have their own database listings as well. This list of games has many players assuming that Theaters of War is now being turned into its own standalone title and is being released to PC and console, owing to the fact that Theaters of War has two listings.

Reaction to this news has been extremely unpleasant. Posts on Star Citizen’s forums bringing up the matter are reportedly being deleted by moderators. One such post was captured before it was scrubbed, showing one player’s extreme dissatisfaction with CIG’s attempt to fund development of a third game. “No one backed Star Citizen/Squadron 42 for CIG to make a completely new standalone game when SC and SQ42 aren’t even close to being finished,” reads part of the post. “Stop wasting the immense funds raised for the development of SC and SQ42 on something no one wants.”

Of course, there is the possibility that the game’s standalone listing is not quite so nefarious and is simply because Firesprite — a partnered but wholly separate studio all the same — is working on the mode itself. As one might expect, CIG is being rather mum on the subject right now, as the game’s forums show no sign of ToW chatter.

sources: GitHub Reddit (1, 2), official forums, cheers Mothballshow!
Longtime MMORPG gamers will know that Star Citizen was originally Kickstarted for over $2M back in 2012 with a planned launch for 2014. As of 2021, it still lingers in an incomplete but playable alpha, having raised around $350M from gamers over years of continuing crowdfunding and sales of in-game ships and other assets. It is currently the highest-crowdfunded video game ever and has endured both indefatigable loyalty from advocates and immense skepticism from critics. A co-developed single-player title, Squadron 42, has also been repeatedly delayed.
Update
Multiple commenters have pointed out that in response to our article, a CIG representative denied the rumor. “Theaters of War is still just a game mode,” is the entirety of the statement from Zyloh-CIG. Hey, at least they didn’t delete that thread.
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Nosy Gamer

I know I’m sometimes too curious for my own good, but if CIG is making another stand alone game, how would that affect the Crytek lawsuit? I never quite understood the resolution to that case, but I remember it involved the definition of making multiple games using the Crytek engine.

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Joe Blobers

Crytek and Star Citizen developers Cloud Imperium Games and Roberts Space Industries have agreed to settle the years-long legal dispute, though terms of that arrangement remain unknown.

They did built their all company based on Lumberyard (a fork of Cry Engine fully own by Amazon) then spend years of tuning, doing massive engine codes change and creating multiple specific pipelines.

You can be sure of one thing: Cloud Imperium did secured all possible way to have free hands on whatever they plan to do.

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I’ll never get tired of the CIG apologists in the comments twisting themselves in knots to explain why this is ok. :)

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rk70534

Are you ever tired of coming so late to comment that the rumour has already been shown to have been wrong, yet making the dismissive comment still?

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Aldristavan

No, I was 100% right on time for this reply.

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rk70534

No, you were not. You made it hours after the rumour was dismissed.

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Aldristavan

If you believe a one-sentence statement from a CIG representative versus years of behavior to the contrary, I don’t know what to tell you, chief.

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Bree Royce

Right? All they did was say nuh-uh, and they only said that after deleting threads and the rumor escaped Reddit. No details, no explanation of what got leaked that would actually serve as rebuttal, refutation, debunk, or dismissal. Just a one-line denial after a failed attempt to suppress. It might very well be bullshit and have a perfectly reasonable explanation, but that hasn’t been delivered.

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rk70534

Moderators nuking rumour threads is standard fare, especially on more… volatile forums.

Developers shouldn’t need to make extensive responses to quash rumours. Perhaps doing so could be better PR, but considering how often there are storms in a teacup when it comes to SC, that might well be just a lot of wasted effort – I bet quite a lot of people who jumped on this particular bandwagon could end up dismissing any refutal the developers would make, no matter how extensive.

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MothballShow

One would think constant (and consistent) open, direct, and detailed communication would eliminate so many tempests in a teacup from occurring, and the subsequent need to “quash” said tempests with equally ambiguous statements.

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rk70534

I have been participating on MMO forums for 16 years and in my opinion such a proposal, as much as it sounds sensible, fails quite often when tried – and studios who try it often end up in the midst of ugly scenes when bumps appear on the development road, as they are certain to do. and complaints and hostile comments multiply.

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MothballShow

“Director of Community”

Like, that’s Zyloh’s job title, and he gets paid to communicate and not just put out fires, but prevent them. Shutting down threads does nothing to refute rumors, neither does an ambiguous statement.

It’s been a couple of days, maybe he’ll post something more detailed, because the discussion here alone is proof he did the opposite of clarifying.

But like always, I’m not holding my breath.

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O RA

Look At This Distinguished Gentleman

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Joe Blobers

If you believe half a second providing further information would help CIG you are new to the party.
Any answer from CIG and I mean any, will create another storm in a tea cup, including if it have no impact on SQ42/SC development.

There are individual around spending most of their spare time on internet to create new threads of Doom, explaining why it was the most terrible possible decision… you know, because CR is the antichrist incarnated :)

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MothballShow

Joe, a clear and detailed response from CIG would always have its share of detractors (and defenders). However, such a statement would also have news sites saying, “Oh, they explained the thing, so there’s really no controversy worth reporting. We’ll leave that to forums and whatnot to rage about, but there’s nothing here.”

As it stands now, Tyler’s statement did nothing to refute anything that was reported.

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Joe Blobers

Web sites in general are a gigantic piece of trash, looking only for bold title.
I am excluding MOP of this list not because I am here but because they do an overall good job at providing information and balanced comments.

Most sites copy each other only if they smell blood hence more click and visibility for them… This is guaranteed. Still it never impacted the fact that more backers are joining regularly.
Not because of ‘bad or good PR’ but because they can test for free the latest build and that CIG keep adding more substance quarterly.

I agree on your point: Tyler’s statement did nothing to refute anything that was reported… as I explained already, it does not change anything for backers.

Out of 256K followers on SC/Reddit, I can’t find any thread related to this very topic and mods don’t even delete such threads.

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O RA

Boy, it feels like I’m visiting my parents and someone said ‘storm in a teacup’ on fox news.

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dsmart

From the same guy who famously wrote – FIVE YEARS – ago, that he had played ALL missions in SQ42.

Yeah, you should totally believe that guy.

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rk70534

You are clutching at straws, Aldristavan. Based on that ‘logic’ you could declare the truth of any rumour, no matter what the studio says…

Claims must be supported by at least some evidence, so that a claim could be made that the studio is lying when it denies them. Alleged ‘years of behaviour’ isn’t that.

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MothballShow

Zyloh stated that Theaters of War is a game mode. Star Marine and Arena Commander were also game modes.

The issue goes back to the NVIDIA database entries, which list Star Citizen, Squadron 42, and Theaters of War. Note, Star Marine and Arena Commander are not listed, so “just a game mode” doesn’t lend any clarity, nor does it refute any speculation from supporters, skeptics, or heretics.

As for years of behavior, it can be summed up pretty easily in the “box of shame” at the end of the article, unless you want to dig into nearly a decade of statments. Or we can focus on why Theaters of War didn’t come out in 2020 like it was supposed to, with little to no communication about it.

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rk70534

Data mining can lead to conspiracy theory -level overthinking. Just because older game modes are not listed, doesn’t mean that a new one couldn’t be.

This is basically standard, overheated doom-mongering so typical of MMOs, where every puff of smoke is interpreted to be a sign of a raging wildfire.

Things get delayed in MMOs. That a game mode gets delayed from a claimed playable date is no proof that it is being made into a standalone game, only that it is being delayed.

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The delay isn’t why people are suspicious; the leak is why. If it’s so easy to explain it away, CIG could just… do that.

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MothballShow

But again, even your stance is unprovable. However, the guy heading up community relations – I think his name is Tyler Somethingorother – could give a clear a detailed response to eliminate speculation, not just over here or on Reddit, but on Spectrum (his own playground).

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O RA

Holy shit, now we’re throwing around the term “conspiracy theory” – bro, if anyone one’s got a hat on here it’s you. Reads; “Make CIG Great Again”

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Joe Blobers

As I say from start, they could make a decision to have any modules part of SC or as standalone game including by the way, those not yet listed in Nvidia drivers list.

TOW being on this list means it could be the first module to potentially be a standalone game sometimes later on.
They can do whatever they want with those modules, scrap them, make them SC exclusive or available through different monetized model that fit their strategy.

SC is in alpha, SQ42 in development and TOW is a module with a true potential standalone version… assuming they can make it fun, stable and well received by most players of such ‘limited’ gameplay….
My understanding is that whatever will be released by CIG as a none Alpha game, a standalone version of TOW will follow the exact same path than SQ42: release when done.

Apparently CIG decided that they are not ready to announce a date of release for TOW, either for SC or through another distribution model. Hence the answer.

Is it satisfactory for those seeking for every single bit of information? No… and that change absolutely nothing for SC or SQ42.

As a backer, that what matter.

We can’t expect with a 45$ pledge (change it by any amount of $) to get a seat at the Director board and to be informed of every single decision, change or strategy of any kind except to deliver at some point the project we pledged for or better.

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Sean Barfoot

Yeah, after all, it’s not like they ever claimed to be transparent or anything right?

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Joe Blobers

Being transparent does not means providing every single bit of internal information implying strategic reason not to be fully transparent.

Letting some speculating on something that have no consequences is of interest only for those same few individual, not CIG as a company.
Backers did not joined because of TOW nor they stay because of it…

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Edit: nevermind, what am I doing lol

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O RA

That’s ironic since it seems like you now live in this thread.

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Ardra Diva

I find myself wondering how there is a new Call of Duty or Battlefield game practically every year – rich, complex, entertaining, AAA titles, and Squadron42 can’t get off the ground after being announced literally 7 years ago…

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rk70534

Perhaps you should start by noticing that you are comparing two different game genres, and then continue from that by realizing that SQ42’s launch will be tied to SC, as it will lead players, and their characters, to it?

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Brendan Wallach

No Man’s Sky. released in 2016 has had five years of updates and patches and is a finished game in less time Sc has talked about what there going to be making.

Elite Dangerous released in 2014 has been updated for 7 years. it was made and released with a small budget compared to what Sc has.

Things can get done if they just focus on finishing a core game.

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Joe Blobers

Quote: “Things can get done if they just focus on finishing a core game”… and be equivalent in terms of scope, resources available at day one with up-to-date game engine, multiple pipelines, creating studios, hiring hundred devs and administrative staff over years.

Both games you named are probably already in every space game fan library. That does not mean we have to ignore ambitious project because something with a much smaller scope or providing different experience have been done in the past.

I guess it is not out of possibility to get all three over a period of several years, hence support the teams and companies behind them.

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FWIW: One of the community managers, Tyler Witkin, tweeted that ToW is still game mode:

That said, CIG has been rather quiet about ToW since last year.

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Airsoft Memeologist

Does literally nothing to refute that it’s a standalone product. Warzone is a standalone product of COD and is required to be installed even if you don’t want to play it, which also makes it a game mode.

They never stated clearly that it’s not standalone. They just said it’s a game mode. Again, because people don’t get it, if it were just a game mode, it would have been covered by the Gameworks license of Star Citizen.

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gnoldi

This is the same guy that said he played through all Squadron 42 episodes years ago, right?

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“Game”

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Gnomeland Security

Doesn’t it HAVE to be listed as an individual game in order to be listed on Nvidia? Look at that list, every damn Adobe item is broken down into singularities. So yes, it could be listed as an individual or standalone game but seriously WoW has 12 listings…and Shadowlands.

Starfield and Skyrim VI is also on there….where’s the pitchforks?

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Boe_Jlobers

But Skyrim and Starfield are separate games and marketed and talked about as such? Like no one thought “DAMN TODD HOWARD WHAT YOU MEAN SKYRIM WONT HAVE MORE GAMES INSIDE OF IT.”

So it’s really not the same thing at all lol

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Joseph Groulx

So here we are in almost 2022, Star Citizen won’t be able to meet Kickstarter funding promises in the next ten years, CIG operates perpetually in the red, and Chris Roberts is the king of scope creep.

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Joe Blobers

So here we are in 2021: another rumor on top of others rumors.

And that one: “CIG operates perpetually in the red, and Chris Roberts is the king of scope creep”
About the financial part, CIG collapsed back in 2015 and every single quarter since then… as per internet triple-A development experts.
Showing balanced account with close to none “profit” is key to get all benefit from differents studios locations… and this is totally legal.

Stretch Goals have been stopped back in 2015… by CR after backers validated more stretch goals in 2013 and 2014. Everything developed in game is either part of SQ42 or SC scope.

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Joseph Groulx

CIG’s spending exceeds their income by tens of millions of GBP and continuous development is funded by sales of IP that doesn’t yet exist. I want to believe all the magical fairies in the world that will tell me this game will be ready in the next decade but we’re still developing the first of 100 star systems and those development dollars aren’t going to be coming in forever unless CIG delivers on some promised content.
How long are people going to line up with cash in hand for CIG’s semi-annual concept sale for IP that won’t be released for another 3-4 years? Honestly.

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Joe Blobers

Honestly? SQ42 is going to be released way before 3 or 4 years and every quarterly patch start to add what is requested by most backers: more gameplay.
Development done on special pipelines and overall game codes development start to pay off.
That what will drive new backers to join compared to the inevitable copy/paste games done by Publishers, with quick re-skin or remaster.

By end of next year SC will have at least three new gameplay added (Medic, large container transport, Salvage) and probably two others like Repair and Data transmission.
Not counting everything they did not officially announce like a new system and progress made on Server Meshing.

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Joseph Groulx

I hope you’re right, but SQ42 was supposed to be in Beta like last year. I was hoping once that happened – which we don’t have an ETA on now – that we would get some better results.

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rk70534

They won’t likely release SQ42 until SC is close to a formal launch. The former leads the players, and their characters, to the latter.

Of course there is a significant number of people who want to, and intend to. play only SQ42, but from the point of view of game integration and promotion, SQ42 coming out years before SC is unlikely.

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Boe_Jlobers

SQ42 is going to be released way before 3 or 4 years

Citation needed Joe lol

This comment will not look good in 2025 when SQ42 is still no where to be seen.

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Joe Blobers

What citation? It is an opinion based on current roadmap integrating more SQ42 features and common sense: they have to deliver sooner than later S2 to prove they can do it, as simple as that. But not until it is in good enough state.

Call me back in 2023 :)

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Boe_Jlobers

So here we are in 2021, things change, but the more they change, the more the SC excuses stay the same :)

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angrakhan

Random thought: maybe Firesprite did such a good job that they ended up with something that was close enough to an actual game CIG decided to split it off and have SOMETHING to show for all this time, effort, and money.

I can see why people might be frustrated, but it could be it took very little effort to take what they were building anyway for SC and button it up into it’s own SKU.

I could be totally off on that, but it doesn’t seem completely impossible.

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Airsoft Memeologist

This makes zero sense. How could Firesprite, or even the concept of ToW be so good it’s worth having a separate license? It’s built off the unfinished broken foundation of a lackluster alpha. Considering how much isn’t even in the game, let alone a single complete star system that is 99% procedurally generated, and how often they change or remove features because they want to, this is the worst time to make a standalone product.

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Joe Blobers

You totally missed two crucial point: IF and When.

This is a rumor.

Making a standalone product in years make total sense. That’s why you thread wasremoved from Spectrum: You refuse to admit TOW can be simple mode like Arena Commander and want and answer from CIG about what they may do in future.

In short they will do whatever they want, that does not make Devs answering your question a liar…

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Airsoft Memeologist

Again, you can’t seem to comprehend anything. If ToW wasn’t intended to be a standalone product and just a game mode, as Zyloh said, of Star Citizen, that would have been covered by the license for Star Citizen. There literally wouldn’t be a reason for ToW to have a listing for Nvidia Gameworks.

You can try and simp for CIG all you want, but the fact is they intend for ToW to be standalone in some way.

That’s it. End of story.

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Joe Blobers

They may decide in future to make it a standalone game if that make sense. All what they say in the meantime is correct. They don’t own you any revelation about their possible monetization strategy.

In the meantime and until a decision is taken, TOW is a module of SC.
That’s it. End of story.

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Airsoft Memeologist

Fun times. I made that original post only to get a 2 day ban from the mods. CIG stating that it’s still a game mode does nothing to refute the claim and evidence that they registered ToW as a standalone product. An excellent example of this would be Warzone being a game mode in Call of Duty, but it’s distinctly different. Warzone is free while access to the Modern Warfare campaign and multi-player aren’t available unless you pay for it. Given how much CIG loves to get as much funding to continue perpetual development, I would imagine CIG charging a much smaller amount for people to get access to ToW and providing an upgrade path to Star Citizen.

The only thing CIG can do to ensure there is no confusion about all this is to make an actual statement about this, not a simple “it’s still a game mode” that ultimately doesn’t answer whether or not it’s intended to be sold separately. They need to address whether or not they intend to have ToW as a standalone product in any capacity and is instead another module like Arena Commander or Star Marine.

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Warzone being a game mode in Call of Duty

No…Warzone is a Call of Duty game, not a game mode for “Call of Duty”, which is simply a franchise of individual games that largely have no real connection to each other outside of the brand.

They need to address whether or not they intend to have ToW as a standalone product in any capacity and is instead another module like Arena Commander or Star Marine.

They did, you just don’t seem to like their answer. It’s still JUST a game mode, meaning it’s not a stand-alone product that can be detached from SC proper.

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Airsoft Memeologist

Warzone IS a game mode in Call of Duty and is also a separate product. You always have regardless if you play just Warzone, Modern Warfare, or Cold War. I can’t detach Warzone from Modern Warfare and Warzone is always required to be installed. ToW is the same thing. If CIG intended ToW to just be a game mode, they wouldn’t have applied for a Gameworks license for it as it would be covered by the Star Citizen license.

You are a fool that’s easily satisfied by an answer that ultimately means nothing. Calling a product a “game mode” doesn’t refute anything. ToW is most likely going to get the same treatment as Warzone in being always required with everything else being optional. Since they applied for a standalone license, it’s also likely they’ll also choose to release on console.

You can choose to believe in CIG and what they say. I don’t. The only way this can be resolved is for CIG to tell people whether or ToW is a standalone game/product or not in any capacity.

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MothballShow

I mean, that database has entries for Star Citizen, Squadron 42, and Theaters of War. Each has two entries.

Conversely, Arena Commander and Star Marine do not have any entries. So I don’t quite understand how Zyloh’s response holds water.

I agree with you, there needs to be something more detailed than a nebulous “just a game mode” response from Zyloh or anyone else in the upper echelons.

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Joe Blobers

You already got an answer but decided it was not the one you are expecting.

In every company, all is subject to change. They can have no intention to make it a standalone game now as we speak. Nothing stop them in quarters or years to take the opposite decision, at no time it is a lie or anything against backers, quite the opposite.

TOW could have potential to bring way more players than SC+SQ42 together… many gamer do like to play game limited in scope but that met their expectation of novelties. TOW have this potential to bring more cash in CIG hands.
We can’t ask at the same time to not sale more concept ships while cutting all others options. That’s a non sense.

Again TOW was not part of original scope, they can do whatever they want to do with it, it won’t change anything. Backers pledged for either SQ42 or SC not TWO.

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Hebel

I see no problem for the backers when they sell access to ToW seperatly.
If backers have free access i can’t see problems here.
They can generate more money for the game development outside of the Star Citizen fanbase.

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gnoldi

Well, Zyloh wrote “Theaters of War is still just a game mode.”
That by itself is an obvious lie, implying that ToW actually exists. If it’s a game mode, where is it and how do I access it? Oh, that’s right, I can’t that, because there is no ToW. I don’t trust a single word coming form their mouths. I will believe it only when I see it. Also, it could simply mean ToW is planned to be just a game mode for SC backers and a stand alone game for others. Who knows…

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Joe Blobers

How can it be a lie when CIG did talked about TOW since years? Did you missed all past information about TOW development? Which means it is not yet available…

As you said TOW can be everything including existing through two different modes: a basic one in SC and a more developed one as standalone.

If they can sell TOW for 10/15 $ they can make as much as cash with it as SC because of low price offered to a most larger gamer population.

Also TOW is nothing but all developed assets, mechanisms currently developed for SQ42 and SC.
That would be a very clever method to recycle all past expenses in new cash.
Which is ultimately very good for backers as it ensure complementary source of revenues.

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Boe_Jlobers

How can it be a lie when CIG did talked about TOW since years?

I can help you understand. He called it a lie because the game mode doesn’t exist. Remember when Sean Tracy said he’d have ToW out by early 2020, way back in 2019 at CitCon?

Talking about something doesn’t make it exist, though if it did, maybe CR would actually be a good game dev :P

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Joe Blobers

So SC is a lie because it is in Alpha? SQ42 is a lie because it is in development?
The lie is to pretend that because you don’t have it in your hands fully released, it does not exist in its current state: games in development.

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gnoldi

Ahoy Sailor. It was me that managed to capture your post just before it was deleted. I am shocked to hear you got banned because I think your concern is absolutely valid.

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Airsoft Memeologist

I’ve been banned many times for talking about stuff they don’t like and threads deleted. Forgot to take screenshots of this one and I’m glad someone did.

The mods on Spectrum are the most militant hall monitors out there.

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gnoldi

Guess we’ll have to wrap things up here ;)
See you around!

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Joe Blobers

In case you don’t know, if mods do answer a question but you keep harassing them with the same question or variants or keep breaking forum rules like spreading rumors, there is no surprise yours posts are deleted. This is a company forum not a public web site you can throw whatever opinion (to a limit) without any consequences.

Reading “I’ve been banned many times” means… you are still able to make new threads.

Apparently mods are not that terrible :)

I am genuinely curious about what are the titles of those removed posts.

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Joe Blobers

What you call evidence @Airsoft is… a rumor. Nothing more.

CIG own you nothing. TOW will be whatever they want it to be. As a backer, whatever they do to monetize and spread SQ42/SC universe is good for backers.

Nothing can stop them to switch at some point a modulesinto a standalone game.
Space Marines, Arena Commander, TOW were not part of the specific original scope. They have been created for a single purposes: let devs get data while backers have a taste of FPS + flight mechanisms. TOW is somehow a combination of both.

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Airsoft Memeologist

@Joe dude, you’re trying to hard to justify their actions and say it’s good enough. I can’t say I’m surprised to find someone from the SC community rabidly defend CIG, but you aren’t getting it or are fine with CIG screwing over everyone that backed for Star Citizen and Squadron 42, not ToW.

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Joe Blobers

… But nobody have been screwed… We got better SQ42 at no extra $… Release when done is not what I call screwing people quite the opposite.

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gnoldi

And where is that better SQ42?

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Joe Blobers

… when done?

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gnoldi

NO WHEN QUESTIONS!!

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Joe Blobers

We will got an answer eventually :)

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Boe_Jlobers

CIG own you nothing.

Getting mad and just bashing the ol’ keebs eh?

Yeah I think if i buy a product they do owe me something lol Joe.

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Joe Blobers

Who said otherwise? Crowdfunding model rules apply: pledge to get a product later on when done.

To my knowledge, 6 studios with +700 devs or contractors are working hard to deliver backers pledges.
Nobody said and certainly not me that they don’t have to deliver…

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Boe_Jlobers

I mean this is obviously fake and frankly I’m a bit disappointed in Massively for even giving these rumors the time of day :(

Insinuating that CIG would release a game is borderline slander

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Tee Parsley

Funny!

But perhaps Firesprite are just competent developers?

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Joe Blobers

RSI do have 6 studios all over the world. Do you means one is more competent than the others?

Firesprite do use all assets and codes done by CIG… a company paying them to handle final steps so they can focus on SQ42/SC others gameplay.

You can have competencies in several companies… but the best competency is to choose who, what and when a selected department/company is best suited for the task.

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Boe_Jlobers

Firesprite do use all assets and codes done by CIG

Citation needed Joe, this is unlikely and totally sounds made up…. lol again with the lies, wondered where you’d been you only seem to show up if a SC story gets >100 comments here.

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Joe Blobers

Extract from past MOP article: “The collaboration between CIG and Firesprite began in 2019, with Firesprite using CIG’s toolset to develop the mode. Theaters of War has since had several closed Evocati tests, and another one is set to kick off this weekend with more to come in the future”

What is totally unlikely is an external company dedicating very few employees while being able to create a full standalone game out of nothing… and preferably without any connection with already created assets and codes done by CIG.
That make zero sense but better talk about the number of comments. At least you can make a quite accurate statement for once assuming you refresh the count regularly… because that’s really what matter lol.

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Utakata

They did report it as a rumor and not as fact, for good or bad.

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Bree Royce

Moreover, CIG was apparently deleting all the threads on it and not commenting on it at all until our piece, so… you’re welcome? :P

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Utakata

Well it needs to be pointed out to certain types that they can’t actually litigate against rumors or someone posting about rumors, especially when it’s clearly stated as such. Also, it never ceases to surprise me what gets /upvoted around here by folks who should know better. /sigh

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Hebel

There is a response from Zyloh-CIG.
Quote:
“ToW is still just a game mode”

Bree Royce
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Bree Royce

We know, it’s already in the post. That’s the comment in response to our piece that we’re talking about.