Massively OP Podcast Episode 201: Under siege from new content

    
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Because it's not real.

On this week’s show, Bree and Justin tackle the last-minute deluge of content before Christmas, including SWTOR’s Jedi Under Siege, Elite: Dangerous’ exploration overhaul, LOTRO’s seasonal instances, and of course the new Daybreak game announcement!

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TomTurtle

Whether it’s questing or grinding or what have you, many MMOs, in my opinion, really need better gameplay loops compared to non-MMO titles. I feel like a lot of a player’s time is bogged down by game design that directly aims at retention over joy.

I also feel that as has been discussed over the years, MMOs could be so much more if developers learned from previous MMOs and non-MMOs that have had more diverse design choices, such as the big issue: non-combat activities.

If all you have is combat and questing done over and over again in MMOs, of course players are going to get sick of it by now. That doesn’t mean you have to throw it all out, but offer more to do on top of that stuff.

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Ryan Allgood

I just wanted to say…

Thank you, Justin! I hate dragons too!

Although I do still like elves. <_<

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Cypher

So still not 100% but what the F is “Egg Nug” (spelling?)

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Eggnog, yeah! It’s basically a festive drink – usually milk, eggs, sugar, and a mixture of spices like nutmeg and cinnamon. Imagine drinking like mildly spiced melted but cold vanilla ice cream. It’s a little bit of a joke because the alcoholic version has rum too so it’s possible to drink a BIT too much… :D

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Cypher

Oh! can’t click the link at work Wikipedia is on the block list :-(

But spiced vanilla Ice-cream does sound amazing! Not so much the eggs though… I’m assuming that’s raw eggs?

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It is! It creates that thick frothiness (I swear it’s not as gross as it sounds hehe). I was reading after I linked it and it looks like people do freak out over the eggs (and associated food poisoning problems!), so some people sort of boil them first, and big manufacturers use other things to get it thick/creamy. I wait all year for good eggnog, I love it. :D

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Bree Royce

Yeah, definitely get the light stuff (or cut it with milk!).

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Ryan Allgood

I cut it with Vodka and Kahlua! Haha.

Like a White Russian with eggnog. I call it a White Christmas!

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PhoenixDfire

As far as Elite:Dangerous is concerned, there are only two pay for packages;-

  1. Elite Dangerous – (Season 1) the base game, good for flying spaceships.
  2. Horizons – (Season 2) this adds planetary landings on airless worlds and all the content which goes with that (i.e. engineers, easier to find materials, Base Raiding, SRVs, Alien Structures, etc)

We’ve had a year of free content for the last year in the Beyond (Season 3) which has upgraded the functionality for both of the above. Personally, for someone who’s starting out with this game, get Elite:Dangerous + Horizons in the next steam sale and get all of the Beyond content for free.

They do have a in game store, but all the items for sale are cosmetic and don’t change the performance of any of the ships in game (so no pay to win as far as ships are concerned).

We know that Frontier is working on Season 4 at the moment, and I’m hoping that they make Beyond (Season 3) the new base game when Season 4 is ready for release otherwise it will just be too confusing.

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BalsBigBrother

With regard to the Elite:Dangerous update though you have probably figured it out by now. You don’t need to buy anything and will get the content as you have with all of this years releases for zero monies spent. Whether that will change for 2019 is as far as I know still up in the air and nothing has been confirmed.

If you want to support the game your options are cosmetic skins, bobbleheads and so on from their store.

Questing is something I personally wouldn’t wish to go away completely. I often find that quests will give me some direction when otherwise I might be at a complete loss as to what I should be doing. Even if all the quest consists of is go here and you might see some cool things that is all I need.

One of the cool things I enjoy with regard to games like Skyrim, Fallout (inc Fallout 76) is that often I will be sent on the generic quest get a mcguffin from Mr McGuffin seller #322. However because the worlds are so packed with interesting things that are not related to any quest I often don’t complete the journey due to these distractions. However the quest served to point me towards them in the first place and that is more than enough.

The problem with mmos is that often they don’t have anything but the quests and nothing in between to serve as a distraction or to make exploring interesting as an thing on its own. I really feel that mmos miss a trick in that regard that they could do well to learn or relearn as the case may be.

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Yup! That was the conclusion he came to too – that he didn’t need to buy anything he didn’t already have. Frontier deserves a lot of props for that.

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Minimalistway

Alright listening to the whole podcast, about questing question, i feel there is this conflict between free-form playing and directed playing and games can provide both, it’s not easy to do that, add some sandbox to that themepark or some themepark to the sandbox.

Minecraft and many of its mods have advancement window, a mix between a guide and achievements, you can follow the lines and do them tasks and you get rewarded with XP or items, or you can ignore it.

GW2 did things in a different way, leveling mostly have no quests and i love that, but when it comes to the story there is a quest line.

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Jack Pipsam

Justin’s Australian accent.

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Freddy

daybreak games? more like “deycancel games.”

I will see myself out…

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Minimalistway

WoW griefing: it does not happen for 4 years now? Blizzard “nerfed” the griefing around the event NPC, so people can’t use mount to troll each other … and some people in WoW complained about that!

“I can’t be a jerk anymore, why Blizzard?!” that’s what they said basically :-)