City of Heroes’ first new rogue server shut down over a fake legal threat, but admins say it’s coming back

    
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[This story has been heavily updated throughout with more at the end.] It appears that the City of Heroes rogue server that was up in testing all weekend has already run into trouble with what the community was initially assuming was NCsoft, though it’s since been made clear NCsoft had nothing to do with it.

Consequently, the test server has been wiped by one of its developers, and the Discord is an inferno of rage right about now. Here’s part of the original official statement from one of the Discord mods, Voodoo Girl, plainly made under the initial belief that the server was under legal threat.

“This server, as of right now, has to be shut down indefinitely. We are on a direct course for legal action. As such, steps must be taken in order to protect the people involved in this project, their families, and their futures. As with all of you, we are heartbroken. We wanted to see our City return, but to do so at the destruction of the lives of those involved is too great a risk to take. However, this project is not finished. We will continue to work towards the revival of City of Heroes with all efforts that we can make. We cannot give you all a time frame at this time. We are in discussions to do what we can to revive some form of the server, however we do not wish to commit to a point in the future that we may not be able to reach. You have trusted us to this point. We ask you to extend that trust, and we will in turn do everything within our power to prove to you that we are deserving of it.”

The Discord owner had harsher words, saying the programmers were “heading into legal fuckery.”

“As it stands, we are heading into legal fuckery. My hands are shaking as I type this up, so please bear with me. The entire project is in jeopardy, but the only feasible solution we have is for me to set up an LLC and fight what is happening at this time. I am risking everything for a community I love.
I am doing everything I can to defend those who were involved in this situation. I am going to get fucked sideways over the next few months to years, and things are going to put me into some major legal turmoil. I will have lawyers out the ass, and I will be put into personal jeopardy. This is a project I am going to sink with, and I WILL do everything in my power to get done. I am praying for mercy right now. I am extremely emotional right now and I feel the ten years I once decidated to this game is being ripped out from under me again. I appreciate the support I’ve had from the community. I have to break the one promise I wanted with every fiber of my bewing to uphold, since I’m just a fucking semi truck driver. A fucking. Truck driver. I am going down on this ship. This is my hill to fdie on. I will fight tootyh and nail to get EVERYTHING we fought for back. I know its tough asking anonymous for support, but I’m in for a rough fucking right. I have no way to make a closing statement, so I may as well go as fucking cheesy as I can.”

Worth pointing out here is that it’s seriously not OK to go running around threatening NCsoft right now; this is not really an unexpected potential outcome, and it’s not been confirmed by any public entity on the record either. It’s also worth noting that this particular private server was being run independently – we don’t even know who’s in charge of it [now]. It’s probably not a good use of time and effort to panic and rage right now given how much we don’t know about what’s still going on behind the scenes. We’ll update when we know more.

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Discord admin says the project isn’t dead.

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Leandro Pardini, the programmer originally behind the SCORE server, whose hand-off of some of his files last week allowed this new server to spring up around Discord, has tweeted in seeming defiance, offering to aid the community in a rebuild:

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Latest. Appears the people in charge of the Discord do not “physically have” the “server binaries.”

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There’s been yet another statement from the head of the Discord, suggesting there never was a DMCA takedown.

“As of now, we are running on the assumption that there is no DMCA. We have a drive that we are currently verifying on if it’s the server binaries. As it stands, it has everything. There has been some fuckups that lead to mass server panic, and an emergency administration and codemod meeting has been called. We may very well be able to salvage this situation before the next sunset. No promises. Do not hold this against me. We have a gameplan. It depends on verifying this code right now. Once it is achieved, we are pushing to get a server back up immediately. The original goal of the server has been to get a stable i24 for distribution and by the Well of the Furies we will get it. This chaos was unprofessional on my part (partly from my inexperience), and triggers were being pulled before we even had the horses at the races. We will also be futureproofing future development to make sure this kind of clusterfuck will never happen again. Also, allow me to be blunt and address this once and for all. FOR FUCKS SAKE, STOP HOPPING LEANDRO’S **** THE MOMENT ANYTHING HAPPENS. MYSELF INCLUDED.”

The current Reddit rumor maintains that a lead engineer on the test server was spooked by some sort of potential threat and pulled down the server. Regardless, it looks as if a new dump of base code has been posted publicly, and multiple versions of servers and codebases are being worked on. Just a reminder: Nothing on MassivelyOP constitutes legal advice. We do not advocate testing the law here. Have some chill.

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This evening, we spoke to “Yuvi,” the person who was working as the lead dev on the Discord-centric test server. His account of events was reasonably credible and meshes with the briefer account given on Reddit that we were previously treating as rumor. He filled us in on the backstory of the team, who paid for the servers, and how much money it was costing them (it was a lot). And he confirmed the public story that rumors of legal action reached his team and spooked him. Yuvi says a Discord user claimed he had information that NCsoft was preparing a cease and desist letter (and worse) against the server and that after discussion with his team, Yuvi “caved under pressure and the spreading of word of mouth,” ultimately deciding to pull the plug and wiping the server clean of all data.

However, Yuvi admits that NCsoft didn’t actually take any kind of legal action against the team, and there was no direct evidence that there was a threat mounting at all, just the claim from a third party. “I just really want to clear NCsoft’s name,” he told us. “They are to me a good company.”

Seriously, stop trolling NCsoft people. You’re not helping anybody here. The prevailing message is that folks are back to work on a new server, so no panic is necessary.

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Castagere Shaikura

LOL, a PS for COX will never happen because of the rabid fans that think they know everything and demand to get what they want or else. What a freaking joke. And the fact that this story was on every MMO site about a COX PS didn’t help either. People need to keep their mouths shut about PS for them to work.

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Bruno Brito

I think it’s my fate to repeat this:

Pservers are NOT SECRET. This is irrelevant for them. Pservers don’t survive by being things you find on dark alleys, they survive by being where companies CANNOT REACH THEM.

Christ. There’s a reason why Elysium, with Nostalrius database, didn’t even care about C&Ds.

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Castagere Shaikura

Ok now were those PS splashed all over every MMO website broadcasting they are open for business I don’t think so. Most of the time you ever heard anything from them was when they were in trouble.

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traja

Private servers advertise openly on sites that allow that type of advertisement. They even try to entice players to upvote the server on those sites. Basically it is the opposite of trying to hide the server.

Media coverage still matters for many servers because it draws the attention of the IP holders and makes legal action more likely.

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The City

I thought the CoH community was great, or at least that is what I was told..

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Bruno Brito

Communities aren’t monoliths.

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IronSalamander8 .

It really is. There were some issues for sure, I recall one forum goer was livid when I didn’t test sweeping defense changes against purple con mobs, but went for white/yellow/orange cons instead as part of the reason they were nerfing defenses was to avoid being able to fight purple cons in the first place!

It had spots of bad behavior but never like this has been lately. Part of this is finding out about that private server being hidden for so long. It’s quite the shock after all this time.

I’ve played a ton of MMOs, from EQ to WoW, EQ2, PotBS, CO, CoX, SWTOR, and many more, and CoX had (has?) a great community. It’s been a bumpy ride and the death threats aren’t helping anything, but my time in the game; from ’04 to ’12 when it was shut down, I found the best, most helpful, and most agreeable community in any of them.

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Hirku

I’ll show you, when the chips are down, these City of Heroes fanatics…

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NecroFox4

Honestly, this whole situation is completely FUBAR… It’s really difficult to keep up with who’s doing what, why, when, where, how, who’s suing (or not suing) who, who’s mad at who; all of it. It’s all a mess, and at this point I don’t even care anymore. >_<

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johnd212

I will add that even if NCSoft had shut them down the anger directed at them would still be wrong. There are laws in this world and NCSoft owns the rights to this game. Even if we feel it would be “nicer” if they let us play it after they shut it down when has this ever happened? It doesn’t. This is the risk you run when you play on private servers that are not approved by the people who actually OWN the game.

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Tristan Hagen

Okay. Bootlicking aside, bringing up a CoX server is cool and good.

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Paragon Lost

(glances down) Feel for ya Bree, having to work this thread and how some people just refuse to get that they’ve got no credibility and that by repeatedly posting all their doing is making everyone roll their eyes… hard. Not sure how you do Bree, but you deserve a day at the spa for sure.

On topic, fascinating how repeatedly people just don’t appear to learn from previous incidents and instead react or over react to what they perceive is happening, versus what really is happening. Fascinating and mind boggling.

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Alex Willis

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A Dad Supreme

Said it yesterday…

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IronSalamander8 .

Over on the CoH subreddit they made a new discord server apparently. I’m not really sure what the heck is going on but thought I’d mention this. I don’t use Reddit much, mostly for Paladins and Garden Warfare news, but also been in the CoH reddit more recently for obvious reasons.

The general chat in the original discord was indeed a mess last night, it was so spammy it was impossible to keep up and get a word in edgewise. I don’t know if splitting things up is really going to help much though. So much drama!

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Tristan Hagen

They did. There’s a lot of scumbaggery going on with the other one.

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syberghost

Whereas the new one has a rogue mod mass-banning everybody, and they’re (or were, I haven’t checked in a while) having trouble getting it sorted out.

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Tristan Hagen

Given that the other discord has an admin calling for the shootings of migrants, mass banning people is pretty god damn light on the drama meter.

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Bruno Brito

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Paragon Lost

Hehe! Nailed it.