Massively OP Podcast Episode 168: MMOs all higgledy-piggledy


On this week’s show, Bree and Justin go western for Wild West Online’s release date, sci-fi for EVE Online’s employment woes, fantasy for World of Warcraft’s expansion testing, and goofy for pretty much everything else.

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Wild West Online : being a buy-to-play game, I was thinking they were just hoping players would go in on it before realizing it isn’t complete, but even if that’s true, the Westworld timing link is probably part of it, too. Just like ARK was probably rushed (leading to that whole lawsuit thing) to ride the Jurassic World hype.

I guess we will find out how it works out this coming week. I’m sure it will have its player defenders no matter what, telling anyone who complains about bugs or unfinished content that “you just don’t understand how game development works”. :P


Twitch followers are know has Poggers. Lol. Like Frogger, but Pogger. But it is a little different in that the term references twitch emotes, but now is used much more broadly.

So it Subs and Poggers.


As someone who loves Warframe and is a certified bum I wanna share my feelings regarding the first mailbag question.

I used to avoid F2P games like the plague since, like Justin said, there’s usually a catch with them. I remember being told to give Mabinogi a try, and being told within my first hour of playing it that I should get a mount, which “only costs $5! :D”.
Now, not everyone is a bum that measures money in terms of $1 chicken sandwiches but when a game like Warframe comes along where you don’t have to spend a dime, just dedication/time in order to get everything, you feel like you’re being spoiled.

Annnnd that sense of entitlement comes from being spoiled. Why on earth should I spend $5 on my first hour of a game that I don’t even know I’ll enjoy if it took 2 years before I opened my wallet for Warframe?

The sense of entitlement arises from seeing other games “do better for less”. It’s like all the anti-Project Gorgon talk we see, where folks don’t understand how PG costs 30usd whereas you can “buy” Black Desert for a third of the price even though they, as a potential customer for both, don’t see what’s under the hood. (I’d personally rather play as a cow instead of a goofy-looking gothic lolita princess, and I imagine Project Gorgon is the type of game that’d let me wear a gothic lolita dress as a cow)

Sure, LoL gets by through selling sexy costumes and pixel art that has your waifu showing this much more skin but then it would be unfair to expect another moba like Infinite Crisis *I know, it’s dead* to make a living through selling sexy skins because doing so would probably anger the playerbase. #SexyWonderWomanGate

More personal junk than anything
Also thank you Bree for bringing up console players; I only got into pc gaming 10 years ago and was console all my pre-18 life. I personally would only buy/receive two full priced games a year and would re-play the crap out of them. I never bought DLC because my mother-AHEM, I mean my “Roommate” thought it was ridiculous to spend money on something you ALREADY spent money on, and so I carried that mentality for a long time too….my Roommate was VERY influential, y’know?

Excluding Toon Town, WoW was my first MMO and the idea that I’d have to buy a box and pay some money each month in order to play was blasphemy; this wasn’t a credit card bill, this wasn’t car insurance, it was a VIDEO GAME. Coming from this background helps my personal enjoyment of Warframe and mmo’s since they’re games that never end, which my childhood self would’ve loved. However, since I’m a cheapskate I’m fine with trading in time instead of money to my games.

^^^^I’m not sure if I contributed anything or if this is just a, “Strap in folks, it’s MY LIFE STORY time!”, sorry.

Bree Royce
Bree Royce

“I’d personally rather play as a cow instead of a goofy-looking gothic lolita princess, and I imagine Project Gorgon is the type of game that’d let me wear a gothic lolita dress as a cow”

Quote of the year imo. <3