Global Chat: Anthem makes first contact with gamers

    
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The game on everyone’s mind this month definitely has to be BioWare’s Anthem. The studio’s first new IP in a long time is a huge gamble, especially in light of how Andromeda bombed. So now that bloggers have gotten a taste of the demo, what do they think about this multiplayer scifi shooter?

Belghast noted the “rough” weekend of the demo but said that he was “really looking forward” to the launch after trying this. Isey is recommending Anthem as a “buy,” and our own Wolfy noted that the missions were much more fun than the freeplay mode.

Not everyone was overly enthusiastic. Rodger at Contains Moderate Peril deemed it “adequate” and said he expected more. Endgame Viable backs him up, saying, “It’s not a major leap forward in gaming; it’s basically a mod for Mass Effect: Andromeda.”

Want more? We’ve got a super-sized roundup of excellent MMO blog posts after the break!

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Contains Moderate Peril: When MMOs die

“Most mature adults have an idea of their own emotional literacy and can probably imagine how they would react in a given situation. I can fully understand how heart-breaking it could be for some players to see an integral part of their social life ignominiously dispensed with at the flick of a metaphorical switch.”

MMO Bro: The secret of MMO success

“I had a realization recently. After years of playing and writing about MMOs, I think I’ve finally cracked the secret to MMO success. I think I’ve realized the core motivation that lies at the heart of everyone who prefers to log into an MMO over other forms of motivation.”\

Inventory Full: Twenty years of EverQuest

“In EverQuest, DBG does at least have a name that retains some traction. It may not mean much outside the genre, but as we saw at both the dawn and demise of EQNext, invoking the EverQuest name can still get you headlines — and death threats.”

ECTmmo.com: Nostalgic shots in World of Warcraft

“Making my way through some nostalgic zones in old world WoW. While I think classic will be a lot of fun when it releases, sometimes it is just nice to go wandering around on an alt. It’s familiar territory and better on some classes than others with all the changes to leveling and scaling of zones.”

GamingSF: Coop questing update consistency

“What I’ve noticed in all such games is that the coop experience is rarely, if ever, a consistent one. I guess such questing content is mostly aimed at and balanced for the solo player, so testing it for small group play is likely not a priority. This is evidenced by the many bugs that I’ve encountered in various games. A quest might not update for all the members of the group, or a needed item might not drop for everyone either.”

Occasion Hero: Combat in Elder Scrolls Online

“I don’t hate ESO’s combat, but I don’t love it. I would rather it was a different style, but it’s not enough to overcome the things I do like about the game.”

Going Commando: SWTOR’s five worst planets

“Corellia’s roads seem to have been designed with the intent to make the journey between any given points A and B as long as possible. It’s pretty much a straight-up labyrinth. The worst thing is that the map can be very deceptive too, showing a path where actually the road leads to the dead end of a building wall or some collapsed bit of masonry prevents you from going any further.”

GamingSF: Appearance system pros and cons

“One of the better appearance systems that I actually use is in Lord of the Rings Online because of just how useful the wardrobe system is (having a special bank for appearance gear is rather nice) and how easy it is to maintain a look as you level up and gear up.”

Mailvatar: From pillar to post in Black Desert

“Since the world is huge and there’s no quick travel in the traditional sense I’ve traveled many, many miles on foot, on horseback and by boat due to that. I don’t mind the distances at all though, as a matter of fact they make the world feel much more real to me.”

Every day there are tons of terrific, insightful, and unusual articles posted across the MMO gaming blogosphere — and every day, Justin reads as many as he can. Global Chat is a sampling of noteworthy essays, rants, and guides from the past few weeks of MMO discourse.

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IronSalamander8 .

If it wasn’t for Massively I wasn’t paying much attention to Anthem although I like it’s setting more than the Division 2 (I hated the setting of Division 1 and 2 isn’t much better) but my one friend that played some of the testing he signed up for was mostly indifferent.

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Ana

My body and my storm are ready

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Tizmah

I just think it’s funny that after Andromeda, Battlefield V, and Battlefront 2 (plus a number of previous things) people are still willing to give anything EA the time of day.

I wrote the company off years ago and I’m very happy I’m no longer enticed to play any of their games :)

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Bannex

What is wrong with battlefield 5? I mean I know it hasn’t done well financially but is there something intrinsically wrong with the game like bf2?

Im genuinely interested in this because I haven’t heard of any EA controversy regarding this title. I have battlefield 5 and tbh it’s not a bad game at all, I think they did tremendous work on it. I’m just bored of the series.

You’ve listed 3 games that haven’t been recieved well from technically 2 different developers but failed to acknowledge that they’ve had a whole hell of a lot of successful ones. Is it possible for a company to ‘right the ship’ so to speak or do you think once they start down the rabbit hole all is lost?

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Ana

From what i heard it had many problems at launch but now its better as per DICE tradition.

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Ana

Yeah just like they did with Apex Legends haha…ha….h….

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Bannex

The most interesting thing about this game for me will be just how much gamers are looking for a coop/small team pve only experience.

In a world full of BRs and survival gank boxes this game seems really out of place… which could be brilliant or incredibly stupid.

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Bruno Brito

To be fair, the industry is almost desperate for inovation.

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jay

Situation of buyer beware. Yes the paid streamers and bloggers are saying they are looking forward to it. But they are paid to say that. Notice that a few of them skirt the issue by saying things like

noted the “rough” weekend of the demo but said that he was “really looking forward” to the launch after trying this.

Not a ringing endorsement, but just looking forward to the launch, about the least positive thing you could say, but still stay within contract.

“the missions were much more fun than the freeplay mode.”

So the limited scripted missions (things you will only pay attention to once) are a lot of fun, but the freeplay mode (the thing you will spend 90% of your game time doing) is borring.

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Xijit

*not a paid streamer* and I love the game: the story missions are a hell of a lot of fun & more rewarding than freeplay, but freeplay doesn’t fence you in and then prod you in the ass to keep moving forward. Story missions are also pretty short, while Freeplay lets you fuck off till the cows come home.

What people are going to spend most of their time running is strongholds: they are 3x-ish times the size of the story missions & give you a lot more shit to shoot / higher rewards for the effort.

I freely admit to the game’s shortcomings, but it makes up for it by doing what it does really good, and not bothering at all to try to be what it isn’t.

It is a nice, clean title that most players will play the shit out of for 4 months & then leave it installed to play casually in between other AAA releases.

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Bannex

I am not a paid streamer and I can say that bioware has definitely been listening to the fan base.

They’ve had an amazingly open dialogue about bug fixes, direction of the game, javelin balance and expectations. They are very active in the game’s discord and subreddit and so far as meeting the goals and expectations they’ve set, they seem like they’re on track.

All this should be taken with trepidation. It’s entirely possible/probable that if the numbers aren’t there for the game and the sub service that EA will start the painful process of dropping it like it’s hot. It’s also expected that this can be attributed to the pre launch hype machine and to expect this kind of attention post launch would be folly. Furthermore, despite the desire by bioware to make a great game it is evident by their business and marketing departments that it is simply a vehicle to push their subscription service (lots of free money to be made there) which is evident by their irritatingly convoluted pre-order early access rubric.

Tl;dr Anthem has all the pieces, in my mind, to be a great game. The big questions that remain are how invested will the publisher/ developer be if there are less than stellar financials and at what lengths will the team go to fix, polish and post launch develop to make this game a legitimately strong IP.

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Koshelkin

If people which have positive things to say about Anthem are paid streamers then people which have negative things to say are clearly paid viral marketing agents from Division 2 or Warframe. Having an opinion is really that simple on the Internet. But now that I think about it, isn’t that what a paid streamer would say? Damn… I need to check my bank account.

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Bannex

“the missions were much more fun than the freeplay mode.”

So the limited scripted missions (things you will only pay attention to once) are a lot of fun, but the freeplay mode (the thing you will spend 90% of your game time doing) is borring.

Sorry, I’ve got to pick this one apart. The missions are clearly where more development effort went in the initial stages of the game. If the missions were less fun than free play I’d be horribly concerned about the team running the show.

Free play is just that, minimal restrictions on what you can do and where you can go. Developers are in a strange spot with these modes because too many objectives and mechanics can bog down a free play experience while not enough may produce an opinion formulated above. Not a particular telling part to judge a game.

Now a case could be made that some attention to free play and an effort to improve that mode should be considered. That I can get behind. For a game like this, it’s definitely NOT off the table especially if a large amount of the player base does in fact find themselves spending 90% of their time there.

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Ana

People want to hate on EA (even though Bioware is making and and calling the shots) but Anthem despite the demo issues was awesome for me. I waited for a long time for a sci-fi open world looter shooter and this is it.

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donvweel

Anthem has a way to go before it is interesting. Demo did not entertain me very long. Could be better with balenced party. Mobs are just bullet sponges. Flying is great but is on a big cooldown as with most other abilities. If you like WoW style cooldown rotation style combat fine. Definatly a wait and see. Preorder would be a mistake.

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kelvar

I’m a bit puzzled by your remarks. Flying is most certainly not on a big cool down – seconds maybe unless you overhear then it’s a few more seconds.

I’m not sure about the WoW style cooldown rotation style either… I mean you have guns after all.

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Mewmew

The Division 2 is what’s on my mind. The Private Beta is going now (which I’m skipping since it doesn’t carry over into the full release), it comes out March 15th, it is basically what is occupying my thoughts for what I want to play in the future.

I’ve barely looked at Anthem for some reason. I guess it’s partially because I’ve spent too much money on mobile games and can’t really afford to spend more for a while, so I can’t get in Anthem right at release and that would only leave me a couple of weeks to play before The Division 2 came out, so I was just going to skip it. I’ve barely looked up info on it.

I guess I’ll look a bit more closely at it to make sure if I am really going to skip it or not, but for me I had to make a decision between Anthem and The Division 2 and The Divison 2 won out for me.

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squid

Gonna wait a couple months for Ubi to do a few polish patches, but I’m definitely going to take a serious crack at Div2

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Bannex

Ubi has a great track record of launching pure garbage and then slowly turning it into gold. I agree with squid, wait on D2 until it’s been fully developed. At least that’s what I’m doing.

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Bruno Brito

I’m highly sure the two first Assassin’s Creed were pretty good. Even at launch.

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Bannex

Actually most of the assassins creed games have been launched in a relatively good state, you’re right.

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PanagiotisLial1

First Contact between the Planet Anthem and Planet of the Gamers:

Anthem: “We come in peace”
Gamers: “Prepared to be Trolled!”
Anthem: “But we prepared a fun new experience for you”
Gamers: “Hahaha, watch your steam ratings slip and your reddit get hate-bombed!”
Anthem: “But over 1m aready play!”
Gamers: “That is for more professional and in depth information to befefit well informed trolling, we need to dissect every single negative point we can find;)”

Just to have a bit of fun with it

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Indigo Salma

Steam page?

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PanagiotisLial1

I am guessing they will bring it to steam, but generally speaking just joking above due to the title on this page, nothing serious on it

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Life_Isnt_Just_Dank_Memes

BioWare’s owned by EA. EA only releases games on origin anymore. There are old games that remain on Steam, but new EA games are Origin exclusive.

My prediction is it will have a hardcore fanbase and that it will also be viable for most people for like a week or two and then they’ll come back when new content is released like Destiny.

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PanagiotisLial1

I think it will do well, but its not my type of game

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Danny Smith

“The game on everyone’s mind this month definitely has to be BioWare’s Anthem.”

Ehhh thats pretty debatable, i’ve seen enough people going “oh so this is what they are doing with the andromeda expansion dlc maps” and other as cynical comments. Bioware of today doesn’t have the goodwill or rep it used to. It would be nice if the game was great but i don’t know a soul expecting it let alone excited for this compared to stuff coming soon like DMCV or The Division 2.

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jay

wrong page lol